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mrpwase posted:If I thought that it would help I had never listened to Propagandi before so thanks for that. loving hell really? That's what I start the page with ... '97 was the year we elected the best Labour government of all time that didn't do anything wrong ever at all, for all of about 5 minutes.
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"for the many, not the few" was itself a Blairite slogan once; that's how it made it into the Blair version of Clause IV it was an assertion of the social democratic dogma that the point of redistribution is redistribution, not a stepping-stone to industrial democracy history works in funny ways
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ronya posted:"for the many, not the few" was itself a Blairite slogan once; that's how it made it into the Blair version of Clause IV lol i didn't know this but it makes the labour rights histrionics even funnier
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ahmini posted:Can they do this? I mean, it would surely be in contempt of Parliament for the government to table a "deal" for a vote that was no such thing? They way I read it the have vote on whatever has been agreed with the EU, and this still looks to be the same deal May got ages ago. Sure the EU may put out some "clarifying" statements in the next few hours but they won't be legally binding so they mean nothing. A vote in parliament can be held on literally whatever the hell they want, whether it has been agreed by the EU or not. Unless May outright says it has been accepted by Brussels when it hasn't, she's not in contempt. Unless she's prioritising the Tory party over the country (likely) and her own reputation (dubious), it would nevertheless be a very stupid thing to do because she just ends up looking ridiculous when she gets told to gently caress off again and has to bring a deal to the commons a third time. It's hilarious though because there's nothing she can do. The EU won't renegotiate a deal without a substantial political shift and parliament won't pass the only deal they've said they'll accept, so there's literally nothing she can do but bluster. And she can only do that until the end of the month. Kicking the can down the road works, but as she's found out you do eventually reach the end of the road. Honestly, unless she's willing to deal with the absolute chaos of No Deal by default she has to accept that there needs to be a major political change, either via a GE (good) or another referendum (bad), or at the very least by resigning (which seems to be the very last thing she's willing to do). One thing she could try, which might somehow work, is to put her deal alone vs. Remain on a binding public ballot, which would give her a decent chance of pushing it through (or putting the whole thing to bed with a Remain win), bypassing MPs while maintaining the 'democratic' rhetoric. That would, I assume, require approval by the house itself, so it's unlikely but there's some chance she could spin it. ThomasPaine fucked around with this message at 19:12 on Mar 11, 2019 |
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SpaceCommie posted:So I was thinking on the tube this morning about self-immolating outside parliament in protest at this whole poo poo show, but to be honest I'm not sure it wouldn't just be used as an attack on the left at this point. People set themselves on fire in job centres during the coalition and they just ignored it.
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mrpwase posted:If I thought that it would help  SpaceCommie posted:I had never listened to Propagandi before so thanks for that.
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Just watched The Saj defend his dead baby initiative Diane Abbott was good and also extremely pissed off. Pretty much everyone on all sides was critical of Javid, so he ended up mostly telling people it was a complex and difficult case, thanking people for mentioning that it was a complex and difficult case, or just repeating the points of criticism but trying to make it sound positive and like they were agreeing with him couple of standout highlights though: - it wasn't about citizenship, we don't have a consulate so we're not able to help people there even if we want to (*revokes citizenship to help*) - it's illegal under international law to make someone stateless, therefore the Home Office cannot have made her stateless, because that would be against the law
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Was anyone else scrolling through the thread, and just before it stopped on this picture thought to yourself "God drat that's a big burrito, wait why does May have a burrito? Oh it's not a burrito." Also why is her jacket made from curtains?
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V. Illych L. posted:imo the existence of a middle class really is a difficulty for the more dogmatically marxist Yes, fortunately soon all power and wealth will once again be concentrated in the hands of the elite while everyone else struggles in misery. Fortunately.
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Verizian posted:Was anyone else scrolling through the thread, and just before it stopped on this picture thought to yourself "God drat that's a big burrito, wait why does May have a burrito? Oh it's not a burrito." Also why is her jacket made from curtains? Let's not forget the "80s straight-to-video future assassin" bangle.
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Verizian posted:Was anyone else scrolling through the thread, and just before it stopped on this picture thought to yourself "God drat that's a big burrito, wait why does May have a burrito? Oh it's not a burrito." Also why is her jacket made from curtains? I feel like somebody close to May has noticed that the media gives undue attention to female politicians clothing and appearance instead of their ideas, and has taken entirely the wrong conclusion. "If we dress her like a clown, they'll be so distracted that they won't notice she hasn't got any ideas"
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Verizian posted:Was anyone else scrolling through the thread, and just before it stopped on this picture thought to yourself "God drat that's a big burrito, wait why does May have a burrito? Oh it's not a burrito." Also why is her jacket made from curtains? May has a selection of very odd jackets. Though she has yet to top car park rainbow dazzle camo or 70's billy connolly. I'm more wondering if it's the wind doing that or whether she's wearing giant tudor puffed sleeves to intimidate her enemies.
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I saw that May pic and assumed it was a photoshop reference to a show I haven't seenGuavanaut posted:Excited to try this one in court. It's pretty amazing eh https://parliamentlive.tv/event/index/0558e31f-4365-4056-bd80-8a1168dcffb9?in=16:52:40 also I forgot the bit where Joanna Cherry pointed out that Shamima Begum was groomed as a 15 year old child, and probably didn't much say in whether she had children since Daesh probably aren't big on consent or women's reproductive rights, and Javid spun that into "no-one should make a judgement on the threat a foreign terrorist fighter poses to our national security based on their gender"
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OwlFancier posted:It's a shame he died because I would have really liked to see what he thought of leninism. 
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SIX weeks jeez that took a lot of effort to not pass.
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thespaceinvader posted:SIX weeks jeez that took a lot of effort to not pass. Ah drat true lol. In my defence it's not going to make any difference except for people who intend to leave the country and need an extra month or so.
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V. Illych L. posted:what is she even trying to accomplish by dragging this out for such a paltry period of time To give the illusion to the UK press and gammons that the EU will bend over like the cowards they are at the last minute.
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V. Illych L. posted:what is she even trying to accomplish by dragging this out for such a paltry period of time No deal becomes impossible to ignore
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poty posted:Nobody could have predicted this Here's the thing, what would a good deal even look like? Because the EU has gone quite far in trying to accommodate the more reasonable demands (backstop, trade deal w/o complete freedom of movement, reciprocal guarantees on citizen rights). It's: "customs union but we can make our own deals with other countries, all rights guaranteed for our citizens and companies but no freedom of movement, full voting rights in the EU but no contributions to the budget", isn't it
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Diane Abbott made a strong and passionate argument about how the Home Sec illegal and immoral actions likely ended the life of a new born child. GAMMONVISION SHE SYMPATHISED WITH THE JIHADI BABY AND IS RUBBISH!!!!!!!
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So is anyone getting the sense from talking to people that they're starting to realise the stakes, what's actually about to hit us in 3 weeks? What it's actually going to mean? Like at this point the national discourse should be at fever pitch but it feels like there's a vague curiosity, and all that's really happening is that politicians are at it again with their games. It makes sense in a way because when people actually talk about why they voted Leave, you get this completely abstract talk about how the EU makes all our rules and we should be able to make our own deals - it's like a point of principle rather than a very real and concrete thing that's interwoven with the nation and its people's lives, so it doesn't actually matter. Being in the EU is just an annoyance, so being out of it will be nice but won't make any major difference, because a lot of people don't really see its presence in their day to day lives But all the "informed" discussion on it seems to be about the antics in parliament, and not really much on why it's happening and what each outcome means? Still, even now? Like, people don't even know what "no deal" actually is. Feels like there's still such a vacuum of analysis and information, and if we get a referendum it's gonna be 2016 all over again because the groundwork just hasn't been laid So it'd be nice to know if anyone's been hearing positive noises from people, regret or doubt from people who were all for it before, that kind of thing. It's no good May completely loving up if nobody actually realises she's done it
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Bought a load of dollars as a hedge for my holiday money today, so A50 cancellation and the pound leaping back up to $2 now guaranteed.
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May is dressing like she's Camilla Parker Bowles, one step off the Queen. I think power might have gone to her head lads and ladies
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