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ilkhan posted:Starting to think about what I want to do with this RP and a Yellowstone trip seems to be in the cards for .. well, some point this year. I was there last September, it got uncomfortably cold to sleep in a tent (at least for my indoor rear end) but the days were beautiful and not too crowded. 100-400 with an extender should be fine, I got by with a 70-200 and an APS-C crop but more reach would've been useful on a few occasions. As always with wildlife you can't just tell the animals to move closer for a better shot. Buffalo were just walking along the road  But this one was across the river and that's the closest I got with the 200.  How are you liking the RP? Canon apparently really likes to torture me by making cameras that are almost, but not exactly what I want. I've been shooting the 550D since it was the new hotness and although my skills are still the main limiting factor, it's getting a bit long in the tooth. I'm looking for something that's a bit better for stills (so anything would do, really) and can do decent 4K. I was still mostly in the DSLR camp and almost got the 6D II last year, until the early reviews made the sensor look worse than some APS-C cameras. Obviously this is still the same sensor as far as I can tell so that's not great, but at the price I might be able to get over it. It is priced like an early Rebel after all.
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Apr 6, 2019 17:46
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I like it so far, but I'm a newbish amateur and the features it's missing are ones I don't need. I wanted cheapish, smallish, and full frame, and it does what I need. Wish there were more native lenses, but that'll happen with time and the EF adapter is good enough for now. Speaking of, any dimensions on the RF 70-200 lens?
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Apr 6, 2019 18:20
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I was in Yellowstone in late Sept/early October a few years ago on an organised photo trip. It wasn't deserted but the crowds were manageable. The only place where it was a problem was the car park for the grand prismatic spring. I mostly used a 500mm F4 on a 1DX for the entire trip. Flexibility for shorter would have been nice but much longer isn't much use; not that you won't encounter animals at a distance but it doesn't solve the issue of atmospherics (heat haze, dust in the air, etc). For subjects further away, either get closer or compose for a animal-in-the-environment style picture. I'm going back on another organised trip next January, including a decent number of days in snow coaches. Should be excellent (and cold! The coldest I've ever been...)
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Apr 7, 2019 09:50
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mobby_6kl posted:I've been shooting the 550D since it was the new hotness and although my skills are still the main limiting factor, it's getting a bit long in the tooth. this is also me. I tend to spend my winter shooting night time drifting events and my iphone has better low-light abilities than my 550D in most cases. seeing what my friends Sony 6300 is capable of at night makes me really sad. I've been considering an 80D because I dont really think I will ever need full frame as an amateur/hobbyist and switching to Sony is too much effort.
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Apr 8, 2019 07:54
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I, too, am still stuck on a 550D (T2i)  It's my first and only DSLR body I've ever owned. I need to get a new one, I just haven't had the money for a purchase that substantial lately.
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Apr 8, 2019 08:01
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Laserface posted:this is also me. I tend to spend my winter shooting night time drifting events and my iphone has better low-light abilities than my 550D in most cases.  They don't even have our camera on there any more but I know it's pretty bad at 3200 and complete garbage at 6400. Rageaholic Monkey posted:I, too, am still stuck on a 550D (T2i)  I think it held up surprisingly pretty decently overall and I get a lot of great images out of it, but autofocus is a joke as is high iso performance. I do have more money than I did when I bought the 550D but it's still hard to justify dropping $2k on what is essentially one of many (expensive) hobbies. Slowly I'm convincing myself that the RP is a pretty good solution. It does well enough 4K for my purposes (filming an interview with my grandfather, so no rolling shutter or autofocus concerns), low light performance is waay better and dual pixel AF is apparently magic. The $800+ extra in my pocket will surely help me get over the fact that it's not quite as good as the new A7.
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Apr 8, 2019 20:59
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The two issues I had using the Sony A7 series is the in camera interface is a dogs breakfast and it doesnt feel as good to use over a longer period of time. Canon really does do both of these things drat well and given I dont do video, the RP is attractive as a first step into mirrorless full frame to me, esp with all the glass I have. I got the 7D mkII and 1D mk IV for speed - I'm not going to be bursting 10 frames in low light and it's going to be better than what I have for low light. One thing about the A7/A9 is there's some good Canon cameras and glass being sold right now and a few bargains floating about. Good time to do a decent second hand upgrade
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Apr 8, 2019 22:13
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mobby_6kl posted:The 80D is pretty great and would be a big upgrade over our 550Ds. But wouldn't your night shooting benefit a lot from full frame sensors? A 6D II or RP isn't quite as good as the A7 III but they're also almost half the price plus you get to keep your glass. I think the only reason full frame wasnt on my radar was because I didnt want to lose the crop sensor 'reach'. Edit: and price. the two things I like shooting the most are motorsport and birds. Crop gives me that extra 'reach' that makes it slightly easier, but yeah night time stuff would benefit from full frame. I just think the 80D, especially how you it can recover so much from a super under exposed image like on the dp-review page, is something I can absolutely work with. the other thing that holds me back on the 550D is the memory filling up after 7 burst shots and taking like 30 seconds to write it all to the SD card. Laserface fucked around with this message at 22:55 on Apr 8, 2019 |
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Apr 8, 2019 22:43
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I own the 80d If you want to check out some bird shots with the settings my Flickr. https://www.flickr.com/photos/aveslux/ The other option is the 7dMk2 which has better AF tracking from what I hear.
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Apr 8, 2019 22:52
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jarlywarly posted:I own the 80d If you want to check out some bird shots with the settings my Flickr. https://www.flickr.com/photos/aveslux/ Thanks - these photos are great and pretty much exactly what I do (bugs, birds,nature) the other small issue is my only decent Tele lens is my Kit 55-250 from the 550D. I have a Tamron 70-300, but it randomly decides to not work beyond 180mm and will cause the camera to ask to reboot. it was a freebie when I bought a 17-50 second hand and the person didnt want to keep it around and it worked fine for a real long time, so I cant complain too much (except that the kit lens has IS and is sharper at all lengths) I've been looking at second hand 70-200 F/4s or even the 100mm macro since that will get some double duty (and I could sell my 60mm macro) Laserface fucked around with this message at 23:04 on Apr 8, 2019 |
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Apr 8, 2019 23:01
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Laserface posted:Thanks - these photos are great and pretty much exactly what I do (bugs, birds,nature) I have the 100-400L IS II and the 100mm L macro. The reach is needed for birds and even at 400mm + "crop" you are only getting 'special' shots when the bird is unusually close. The 100mm macro is lovely just a great prime lens for macro with a flash.
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Apr 8, 2019 23:06
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yeah I am constantly blown away by how sharp my 60 macro is even when not shooting macro, and the detail it captures in macro stuff with my shaky-hands is incredible. If i had bought the 60 before my nifty fifty, I dont think I'd ever have bought the 50 at all.
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Apr 8, 2019 23:32
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Are you guys talking about the EF-S 60mm f/2.8 USM? I've never used it but isn't it like $400? Then it's not too surprising that it's better than the $100 fifty, it's probably more in line with the 50 f/1.4.Laserface posted:Thanks - these photos are great and pretty much exactly what I do (bugs, birds,nature)
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Apr 9, 2019 00:17
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I’ve been using my EOS film body tons lately. Would a 70-200 be a reasonable to use for 35mm, or is that kind of glass overkill for relatively low resolution images? I could pick up a 70-300, but a faster aperture would be cool.
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Apr 9, 2019 01:20
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Why oh why is there is an RF 70-200/2.8 on the horizon and not a 70-200/4? I prefer the smaller and cheaper version, instead of the stupid expensive thing. Wondering how the RF/2.8 is going to compare size wise to the EF/4+adapter combo.
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Apr 9, 2019 02:40
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It would be overkill but then you can always use the 70-200 (f/4L IS or the 2.8 II are the ones to buy) on the sweet full frame sensor later too. The values of those good lenses never really go down until something much better and cheaper came out, which never happens. So start accumulating those sweet L glass 
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Apr 9, 2019 02:42
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Encrypted posted:It would be overkill but then you can always use the 70-200 (f/4L IS or the 2.8 II are the ones to buy) on the sweet full frame sensor later too. I have a 7D as well, so I’d get plenty of use out of it... If anything, I’d probably go for the f/4 with IS.
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Apr 9, 2019 02:51
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canon is marking their territory with those high-end lenses. plus they probably want to have 24-70 and 70-200 covered when they release their real pro R body because those customers aren't just going to buy a body and a kit lens.
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Apr 9, 2019 02:54
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ilkhan posted:Why oh why is there is an RF 70-200/2.8 on the horizon and not a 70-200/4? I prefer the smaller and cheaper version, instead of the stupid expensive thing. Wondering how the RF/2.8 is going to compare size wise to the EF/4+adapter combo. Seriously the 28-70 is hilariously huge and the dynamic range of the EOS-RP is worse than the 7 year old 6D mark I.
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Apr 9, 2019 02:58
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President Beep posted:I have a 7D as well, so I’d get plenty of use out of it... Oh yeah if you dont need the 2.8 then just save up and get the 100-400 II. It's insanely sharp and comparable to the 2.8 II or the f4L but you also get twice the reach.
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Apr 9, 2019 03:00
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Encrypted posted:Oh yeah if you dont need the 2.8 then just save up and get the 100-400 II. It's insanely sharp and comparable to the 2.8 II or the f4L but you also get twice the reach. I’ve got the sigma 150-600 at the long end, and the EF 28-135 at the short end. Sometimes I’d like a zoom range that straddles the two. Not really doing anything more than e-window shopping and talking hypotheticals at this stage though.
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Apr 9, 2019 03:12
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70-300L is not cheap but it's great.
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Apr 9, 2019 03:21
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Encrypted posted:Oh yeah if you dont need the 2.8 then just save up and get the 100-400 II. It's insanely sharp and comparable to the 2.8 II or the f4L but you also get twice the reach. This. the 100-400 II has become my goto lens (I have a 70-200 2.8 as well thats been fantastic buuuuuut......) and frankly I'd say get it rather than a 70-200 f4. You will not be disappointed, it's a fantastic bit of glass and more useful than a 70-200.
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Apr 9, 2019 03:44
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ilkhan posted:Wondering how the RF/2.8 is going to compare size wise to the EF/4+adapter combo. The RF 70-200/2.8 is about the length of an iPhone, if you don't count the fact it extends when you zoom.
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Apr 9, 2019 03:45
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alkanphel posted:The RF 70-200/2.8 is about the length of an iPhone, if you don't count the fact it extends when you zoom. Also lol @ the RF 28-70 being so oversized that the camera will roll around by the lens if you place it on the table, and it still had bad color fringes.
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Apr 9, 2019 04:02
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yeah but it's f/2!
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Apr 9, 2019 04:32
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Laserface posted:I just think the 80D, especially how you it can recover so much from a super under exposed image like on the dp-review page, is something I can absolutely work with. I just happened to have an example of this rotting in my catalog and figured I'd toss it in for giggles. I was out shooting and saw a coyote, and like a dumb idiot didn't verify settings before I started machine gunning (I thought it was going to do a pounce so I got a bit excited). Had a file like this:  On my uncalibrated computer it was pitch black with maybe a hint of "something" but on my calibrated system there is a bit of a silhouette. The histogram is clumped up on the left but everything is there. So I smacked the exposure up in LR to +5 and ended up with this:  There's a lot of color noise in there but the file is WAY more usable than I would have ever predicted. The only body I had prior to this was a 500D and such recovery was straight up impossible.
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Apr 10, 2019 02:57
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Yeah 80D and the T7i/800D has great sensors. Similar to the one found on 1DX-II and 5D4 with on-chip analog-digital-converter. Ironically they went back to the old garbage for 6D mark II and EOS RP. Probably because otherwise no one would buy the R or 5D4. The EOS-RP that came out a month or two ago is worse than your 3 year old 80D and as bad as the 6~7 year old 6D. Let that sink in for a moment.
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Apr 10, 2019 12:19
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Really wanna punch whoever made that decision at Canon. Like I don't expect the RP to be better than a $2000 Sony but how is it worse than old APS-C Canons or even loving 4/3 cameras. gently caress you canon. Maybe I should just get a used 5D IV  E: Or... the R? It seems to be available in Hong Kong for about $1500 at which point it makes a ton of sense fuuuuuck mobby_6kl fucked around with this message at 15:02 on Apr 12, 2019 |
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Apr 10, 2019 20:41
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The R is not too bad if you can get it for that price. Just keep on using all of your adopted EF lenses and be ok with 3fps when you are doing continuous AF. https://www.dpreview.com/news/2376449107/report-canon-is-lowering-profit-forecast-20-due-to-shrinking-camera-sales quote:'Canon will lower its forecast for the fiscal year ending December 2019. Consolidated operating profit (US GAAP), which indicates the mainstay of the business, is likely to decrease by 20% over the previous fiscal year to just over 270 billion yen. About 50 billion yen lower than the previous forecast. The shrinking of the digital camera market and the deterioration of the semiconductor market due to the functional improvement of smartphones (smartphones) will hit hard.' 
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Apr 20, 2019 11:45
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Encrypted posted:The R is not too bad if you can get it for that price. Cameras are probably the highest profile product Canon makes but I wanted to check and see for myself, and if you dig into their annual report you see that the "Imaging products" only make up 25% of sales volume. By comparison, office products are 45% of the sales volume. And remember there are other reports from Japan last year saying Canon was already the biggest mirrorless brand in terms of sales there. EOS M sells a ton to the one-time Nikon D40 and Digital Rebel markets. My guess? Camera sales shrinking won't help, but it's easier to use a market that is high profile and acknowledged as shrinking as the scapegoat. Nobody will know until the actual reports come out.
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Encrypted posted:The R is not too bad if you can get it for that price. So the EOS-M isn't completely dead? I actually considered just getting a used m50 in the short term as I want to shoot some interviews in May and anything would be better than the 550D at this point, crippled 4k or not.
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quote:Who could have foreseen such a thing when they had almost no new innovation since the 5d4 https://www.dpreview.com/news/5758543529/cipa-s-february-2019-report-shows-huge-drop-in-global-digital-camera-shipments Entire market for cameras is shrinking, not just Canon.
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Apr 20, 2019 13:46
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Hi! I would like to try to record audio visual with an EOS-M. Can someone give me a couple of key words to search for when I am looking at SD cards or mics to plug into it? And a program to, lightly, edit the video? I got the audio part to where I want it. Thank you.
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Apr 22, 2019 07:16
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Herr Tog posted:Hi! Tell us more about what you want to record specifically, it makes a big difference, indoor/outdoor, people, one person etc etc.
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Apr 22, 2019 13:30
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Mics are like lenses, they're designed for use at different distances and levels. What'd you'd use for a studio voice mic is drastically different from what you'd want to use for environmental outdoors mic. That being said, the most common microphone I see used is a Rode microphone. I think it's a good first mic considering cost and the fact it doesn't require other equipment. I use an audiotechnica AT-897 shotgun condenser mic. It requires phantom power so it's driven with a TASCAM DR-60D recorder which can output 3.5mm coax which is what an EOS-M uses. It's meant for directional/long distance recording. um excuse me fucked around with this message at 19:33 on Apr 22, 2019 |
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Apr 22, 2019 19:29
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jarlywarly posted:Tell us more about what you want to record specifically, it makes a big difference, indoor/outdoor, people, one person etc etc. thank you, sorry for lack of details. Usually indoor with one person while close to the mic and if I doanything else I will use my Audio-technica AT2020 and pray. Or would the AT2020 be enough? Also thank you um excuse me for responding. Which type of small Rode mic would you use?
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Apr 22, 2019 20:09
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Apparently the EOS-M has Magic Lantern firmware with a bunch of cool video features, including 2.5k RAW lol. Check this out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qc8KqW0QcL4. The Rode most people seem to use for the on-camera mic is the VideoMic Pro or VideoMicro for lower size/budget. Deity D3 seems like a good alternative but I haven't used it. These should work fine for recording people within arm length.
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For hotshoe mounted I would go with the VideoMic for personal use, VideoMic Pro or Pro + for professional use. Off camera use I'd say NTG4 for boom mount or an NT1 kit for an arm or table mount. That's only Rode. I prefer Audiotechnica myself. Is there a reason the AT 2020 isn't working for you? Does it need to be off screen?
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