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Regy Rusty posted:Boy that seems pretty lovely huh It gets better, the "physical PC release on DVD" is now going to be an empty box with an EGS key.
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ookiimarukochan posted:It gets better, the "physical PC release on DVD" is now going to be an empty box with an EGS key. How is this any different than the last decade of pc releases other than where the key goes to?
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Jun 11, 2019 12:00
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Well, they said "physical release on DVD", which those other things didn't.
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Memento posted:Well, they said "physical release on DVD", which those other things didn't. Nah you have stuff like Phantom Pain which was just a Steam client installer on a DVD4 and a code to go with it. Though out here in Aus we often get a cached install that just needs a GB or so of updates, which is kinda nice for our bad internet at least.
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Jun 11, 2019 12:17
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Shenmue makin a big bet that they can get away with angering psycho obsessive gamers when that’s their primary market demo
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Jun 11, 2019 12:23
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DatonKallandor posted:Also can I just say that a PC Games show hosted by Epic is like a gay pride parade hosted by Kevin Spacey? Also can I just say Goons_TXT you do a fine job with your twitter account
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Hat Thoughts posted:Shenmue makin a big bet that they can get away with angering psycho obsessive gamers when that’s their primary market demo tbf the game series they care about was orignally a dreamcast exclusive, i can see why they thought they can get away with it
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Jun 11, 2019 12:45
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Kurtofan posted:tbf the game series they care about was orignally a dreamcast exclusive, i can see why they thought they can get away with it It also was on the OG Xbox. Its a weird series
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Jun 11, 2019 12:53
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Kurtofan posted:i feel bad for finding this funny, but hey kickstarter I’m sure glad we broke the back of big publishing and really freed the games.
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Jun 11, 2019 13:10
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Hav posted:I’m sure glad we broke the back of big publishing and really freed the games. if only people had bought more ouyas...
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Jun 11, 2019 13:18
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Kurtofan posted:tbf the game series they care about was orignally a dreamcast exclusive, i can see why they thought they can get away with it Yeah I mean it’s just so silly considering Shenmue 3 is not modern warfare 2 where it’s got the cultural capital to steamroll over the vocal minority - it exists because of & for that vocal minority.
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Jun 11, 2019 13:26
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Uh, the minority that picked up a dreamcast isn't the minority that thinks of downloading the Epic launcher as an insurmountable obstacle.
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Fangz posted:Uh, the minority that picked up a dreamcast isn't the minority that thinks of downloading the Epic launcher as an insurmountable obstacle. I’m saying the people who care about Shenmue 3 enough to fund a kickstarter however many years later are psycho gamers who have closely followed gaming news for a long time. If u think it’s casual Dreamcast owners funding it...well...u can think that, power to ya I guess
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Jun 11, 2019 13:32
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Terminally Bored posted:It gets better: I'm pretty sure the people with enough money are already firing up the lawyers over this. Phoenix Point tried the same bullshit and it lasted for a couple hours before they quickly rewrote their statements. Contrary to goon opinion, Kickstarters are not "donations" to the developer.
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Jun 11, 2019 13:56
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Doesn't even have to be the wealthy backers, this poo poo won't fly in the EU.
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Terminally Bored posted:Doesn't even have to be the wealthy backers, this poo poo won't fly in the EU. Deep Silver is German, which makes you wonder twice... like an Anime fan on prom night.
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Jun 11, 2019 14:39
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Barudak posted:It also was on the OG Xbox. OG Xbox was basically Dreamcast 2 for Sega and a bunch of other devs.
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Kurtofan posted:tbf the game series they care about was orignally a dreamcast exclusive, i can see why they thought they can get away with it Shenmue fans in North America should be used to being hosed over. The second game was announced to be the final Dreamcast release in North America, then it was cancelled and only the XBox version was released here. Deadguy2322 fucked around with this message at 17:46 on Jun 11, 2019 |
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It's all just a callback for the fans. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLHhl1khTEc&t=280s
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Hel posted:How is this any different than the last decade of pc releases other than where the key goes to? Every Kickstarted game I've backed with a "physical release of the game" has given you a (set of ) DVD(s) that contain the game, DRM free. That appears to be what Shenmue III promised and now is no longer delivering. The best part is that Limited Run Games are putting out a deluxe PC physical edition with no mention of EGS, looks like the disc contains the game and that's it. ookiimarukochan fucked around with this message at 17:27 on Jun 11, 2019 |
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Alien Rope Burn posted:It's all just a callback for the fans. gently caress me, I laughed
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ookiimarukochan posted:It gets better, the "physical PC release on DVD" is now going to be an empty box with an EGS key. Before it was just kind of disappointing. This is straight up bullshit.
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Hey, thread. I've mostly given up on backing videogame Kickstarters, but there were two recently I couldn't resist: SkateBIRD and Small Saga. Guess it's "be something tiny" month.
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At this point even backing a mid-sized indie title seems like fool's gamble unless the developer signs a legally binding contract swearing not to go Epic Store exclusive before release
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Or you are okay with getting the game through the Epic Store.
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Even if you are okay with Epic's attempts to buy up a monopoly for their shoddy store changing the deal on your backers after you've taken their money is an intensely trashy move
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multijoe posted:Even if you are okay with Epic's attempts to buy up a monopoly for their shoddy store changing the deal on your backers after you've taken their money is an intensely trashy move I don't think they changed anything, considering the Kickstarter campaign just talked about a "PC digital copy", not the Steam store in particular. Apparently the Steam store was just mentioned as an option in a survey months after the fact. And gamers being the scum they are, the customer service reps are now getting death threats because Shenmue is going on a different store than the one they like.
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multijoe posted:Even if you are okay with Epic's attempts to buy up a monopoly for their shoddy store changing the deal on your backers after you've taken their money is an intensely trashy move This has nothing to do with whether backing a midsized indie game is a fool's gamble going forwards, if you are okay with getting the game through Epic.
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Der Shovel posted:I don't think they changed anything, considering the Kickstarter campaign just talked about a "PC digital copy", not the Steam store in particular. Apparently the Steam store was just mentioned as an option in a survey months after the fact.
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Tom Clancy is Dead posted:This has nothing to do with whether backing a midsized indie game is a fool's gamble going forwards, if you are okay with getting the game through Epic. Yes we get it, you're a spineless chump okay with being lied to and having your order changed after the fact. Do you want a star or something?
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multijoe posted:Yes we get it, you're a spineless chump okay with being lied to and having your order changed after the fact. Do you want a star or something? Is that how you get a star in the Games forum?
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If it's any consolation, word from E3 is that Shenmue looks like utter trash.
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multijoe posted:Yes we get it, you're a spineless chump okay with being lied to and having your order changed after the fact. Do you want a star or something? Please. And a cookie. We are aware that Epic is buying out the rights to games now. You have two options moving forwards: don't back games where this might happen, or realize it might happen be okay with it if it does. But I guess you were really just derailing a different discussion by whining again about it happening in the first place.
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It is fun watching brains short out because capitalism is working exactly as intended.
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Kickstarter has always been a risk - games get abandoned, unfinished, turn into scams, whatever - but now there's the additional risk of being lied to about which storefront it'll come out on. Great. Good to know. I'll be careful about what I back in the future.
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CharlestheHammer posted:Man the poo poo gamers will rationalize away is wild "We know this is bad and doesn't really have an excuse but have you considered not being a whiner??????"
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Der Shovel posted:I don't think they changed anything, considering the Kickstarter campaign just talked about a "PC digital copy", not the Steam store in particular. Apparently the Steam store was just mentioned as an option in a survey months after the fact. How's that boot taste?
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booooohooo epic stoooore
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