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So this is obviously morbid, but I find this kind of thing oddly interesting. I posted towards the end of August about the death of the (then) oldest living ex MLB player - Tom Jordan. His death left only 27 living ex players that had played in the 1940's. Two more have since passed. Charlie Silvera passed on September 7th. Not a lot to be said about him - he is known basically for one thing. Being Yogi Berra's backup. That, and collecting World Series rings and bonus checks. He was the last living player that was on all five of the Yankee's five straight championship teams from 49-53. "New York Times" posted:“I’m in the bullpen Hall of Fame,” he told The San Francisco Chronicle in 2008. “With those World Series checks, I didn’t have to work in the winter.” Wally Westlake passed away on September 6th. Not a lot to really say about him. Hit for the cycle twice, and was the last living member of the Indians' 1954 World Series team. Has a confusing name that makes a middle aged guy that grew up in Seattle think about the Sonics and Wally Walker. So, 25 players from the 1940s remain. Not a lot of household names are on the list. Best career probably belongs to Curt Simmons. Eddie Robinson and Bobby Shantz both had decent careers as well. Older M's fans should remember the name Del Crandall. Hard to compare to the 30's and 20's where the last living player happened to be a hall of famer each time. And the last living player from the 1900s was Smokey Joe Wood - owner of an pretty drat interesting career. Kind surprised some version of the Veterans committee never inducted him over the years.
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I hope they all have a kickass tontine on the line
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Sep 12, 2019 20:41
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iospace posted:We also have a better away record, record against teams over 500, and the season series against the Cubs If both teams played to their Pythags, the Cubs would be 10 games above the Brewers  GPTribefan posted:How disheartening it must be to know you were bought for $1 and the general reaction is “the Mariners overpaid” Appropriate Darkest Dungeon line.
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Sep 12, 2019 20:52
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Kevlar v2.0 posted:If both teams played to their Pythags, the Cubs would be 10 games above the Brewers I can't look since I'm at work, but I'll assume that it's "trinkets and baubles, paid for in blood."
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Sep 12, 2019 20:55
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Larry Walker not even sniffing the HoF is one of the weirder occurrences of the post-steroid era. https://twitter.com/Rockies/status/1172209726827851777
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Sep 12, 2019 20:56
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Kevlar v2.0 posted:If both teams played to their Pythags, the Cubs would be 10 games above the Brewers Cubs have been walked off 10 times this season. Record's 18 I think?
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habeasdorkus posted:I can't look since I'm at work, but I'll assume that it's "trinkets and baubles, paid for in blood." Nah it's the way more on-the-nose "another mariner, another misfortune."
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Sep 12, 2019 21:04
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162.8 WAR...........................
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Sep 12, 2019 21:04
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Walker might make it in just at the wire. The ballot glut from the last few years when even a medium hall guy could find 15 candidates worth considering is finally easing up and he was at 56% last year. He'd need a bigger jump than Edgar, but he might be able to pull it off since the rest of the ballot is a lot weaker. I mean, I'm a pretty big hall guy and the only other locks beside Walker on my (imaginary) ballot would be Clemens, Bonds, Schilling, Manny, Rolen, and Jeter. After that guys like Kent, Helton, Sheffield, Pettitte, Sosa, Abreu, and Jones all deserve consideration, but I don't think many voters would put them ahead of Walker. Plenty will put Visquel, but I'm pretty sure that's just because of brain worms. And then there's the issue that, if you're one of the 40% of voters who apparently refuse to let anyone with any steroid taint in, you can't vote for six of those guys and are left with a potential ballot of just Jetes and Vizquel. Ugh. We're going to have multiple just Jetes and Vizquel ballots, aren't we?
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Sep 12, 2019 21:09
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Der Meister posted:162.8 WAR........................... Best player ever
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Sep 12, 2019 21:12
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I think having sportswriters vote on the Hall is bad because they're the most self-righteous, preening people on the planet with a genetic predisposition to hot rear end takes, but idk what a better solution is. Players? A commission?
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Sep 12, 2019 21:16
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In 2002 Derek Jeter sold me his ultima online account then used hacks (funded by laundered yankee money, no doubt) to get it back. I will never forgive him for this, therefore he should never be in the hall of fame.
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zoux posted:I think having sportswriters vote on the Hall is bad because they're the most self-righteous, preening people on the planet with a genetic predisposition to hot rear end takes, but idk what a better solution is. Players? A commission? In general players are terrible judges of talent, player vote/surveys every year demonstrate this
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zoux posted:I think having sportswriters vote on the Hall is bad because they're the most self-righteous, preening people on the planet with a genetic predisposition to hot rear end takes, but idk what a better solution is. Players? A commission? Sportswriters are just the first step. There's a whole bunch of committees to look at potentially overlooked players. But they can have their own problems, the Frisch veterans committee is singlehandedly responsible for most of the worst picks for HOF because Frisch kept picking his friends and ignoring otherwise worthy candidates. The BBWAA has gotten a lot better about their standards for voters. Voters don't get to keep voting if they've stopped covering baseball or haven't submitted ballots over the past, which purged a lot of the worst jerks. That's led to ballots averaging about 8 picks since 2014... which was when no one got in and helped cause the gigantic fuckin' logjam that's hurt candidates like Walker and Edgar. That, plus the people who won't vote for steroid users, have been the main issue. I wish they hadn't gone to a 10 year window instead of a 15 year window, though.
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Sep 12, 2019 21:42
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Sep 12, 2019 21:43
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*Banging on table* Flood Flood Flood Flood
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Tom Gorman posted:In 2002 Derek Jeter sold me his ultima online account then used hacks (funded by laundered yankee money, no doubt) to get it back. I will never forgive him for this, therefore he should never be in the hall of fame. I have to admit, I am so relieved that Mariano was unanimous because thank loving lord we won't have to hear about how St. Jetes is the first unanimous electee or how he was screwed by evildoers seeking to sully his reputation. I was looking at the HOF numbers while writing my last post, and man I'd forgotten how few sportswriter inductions there had been prior to about 2014. There's been 20 players elected by the writers in the last six years. There were only 20 players elected in the thirteen years prior to that. And there were some pretty big misses in that period! Luis Tiant! Lou Whittaker off after only one year! Kevin Brown off after one year! Dwight Evans!! Alan Trammell!!! (I love arguing about the HOF. I have an idle dream of some day buying some land in Cooperstown to create a "Garden of Very Good" with sculptures of real drat good but not quite HOF level players. Like your Robin Venturas, Luis Gonzalezs, and Brets Saberhagen.)
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Pancakes posted:*Banging on table* And Marvin Miller too! Do it, you cowards!
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As much as I dislike Derek Jeter he's likely a better person than Mariano Rivera and his lovely world views. That said, ban all Yankees from the HoF
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Sep 12, 2019 22:11
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https://twitter.com/BryanHoch/status/1172255661238947846 Newton's fourth law of motion was that any Yankee coming off the IL must invariably send another to it
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Sep 12, 2019 22:31
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zoux posted:https://twitter.com/BryanHoch/status/1172255661238947846 Edwin strained his oblique today in an at-bat where he swung once and ended up walking.
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Sep 12, 2019 22:38
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 This has been happening often enough that we should be able to do some statistical analysis on it https://twitter.com/FantasyLabsMLB/status/1172250257448738816?s=19 Oof. Bipartate patella which is a congenital defect, maybe it's become symptomatic or since the Angels aren't making the post season they want to make sure he's good on his spring time table.
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Sep 12, 2019 22:42
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I just want a healthy Shohei pitching and hitting for at least a full season
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Popete posted:As much as I dislike Derek Jeter he's likely a better person than Mariano Rivera and his lovely world views. Gehrig seemed ok.
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Sep 12, 2019 22:51
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Hideki Matsui is the greatest Yankee No one alive can rival his dingers hit + porn collection ratio The Golden Ratio
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Tom Gorman posted:Hideki Matsui is the greatest Yankee What about Kazuhito Tadano's ratio? Dingers allowed + porn vids of himself sold? Golden shower ratio?
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It's all very complicated and over our own heads as "baseball laymen", as it were, so we just have to agree that the advanced statistics haven't caught up yet
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Sep 12, 2019 23:57
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larry walker's 1997 season was incredible and just about singlehandedly won me my first four digit fantasy prize. larry walker for the hall
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Tom Gorman posted:It's all very complicated and over our own heads as "baseball laymen", as it were, so we just have to agree that the advanced statistics haven't caught up yet I may be a baseball layman but baby I'm a porno HoFer. First ballot.
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Tom Gorman posted:Hideki Matsui is the greatest Yankee Excuse me, did he get blown under the bleachers during a game? Then he doesn’t qualify.
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Inspector_666 posted:Edwin strained his oblique today in an at-bat where he swung once and ended up walking. and also https://twitter.com/lindseyadler/status/1172284623327498240?s=19
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One Yank enters, two Yanks leave!
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Sep 13, 2019 00:14
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JA Happ also hurt himself. But you know, we're ok with that.
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Speaking of, wasn’t “left groin tightness” the old Yankee code for going to get blown underneath the bleachers
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https://twitter.com/BlueJays/status/1172133723694882818?s=19 The Jays just released him lmao
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Just the best. I was watching that clip on insta right before coming here haha.
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Sep 13, 2019 02:11
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God the ESPN broadcast crew is awful.
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Sab0921 posted:Larry Walker not even sniffing the HoF is one of the weirder occurrences of the post-steroid era. Walker should 100% be in the hall.
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