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LORD OF BOOTY posted:i mean, i don't know if you read my other post, but this isn't really going to be an ADTRW-unique problem with that other manga If a comic causes you to become tolerant of the sexualization of kids then you should not be reading it.
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:it's basically a 40-volume-and-counting death metal album cover about the angriest motherfucker of all time using a sword the size of a tree to turn hordes of demons and people into splats of red goo, You keep saying this as though you expect people to agree that this is cool, but most people read this description and think it's just edgelord garbage.
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Ariong posted:If a comic causes you to become tolerant of the sexualization of kids then you should not be reading it. it didn't  i'm actively avoiding the other thing Miura is doing because it sounds really bad and his non-Berserk stuff honestly just kind of generally sucks. i'm just also very very unsurprised that the fandom is reacting the way they are.it's like if you went into a Stephen King thread to gripe about the child sewer orgy from IT; you're gonna get a mix of "yeah that's gross but it's a good book otherwise" and people just full-throatedly defending it. you're not really gonna get anyone going "yeah gently caress Stephen King he's a gross sex weird" even if that's frankly probably the right opinion. you're definitely not gonna get anyone throwing their copies of The Shining in the trash because a completely different book has a child orgy in it. (for the record, just so everyone's following what's going on, the gross poo poo that sparked all of this isn't actually in Berserk. it's in a completely different manga by the same author. Berserk has a lot of gross sex, but it's the Hellraiser kind of gross sex, not the... IT child-sewer-orgy kind.) e: Jabor posted:You keep saying this as though you expect people to agree that this is cool, but most people read this description and think it's just edgelord garbage. actually, it rules, and i am sorry you cannot appreciate cool and good things. you're also ignoring the part that actually makes it a GOAT candidate; if you take out the actual depth, you get Goblin Slayer, which sucks balls on every possible level. what separates Berserk from that is the fact that it's a legit incredibly well-written story. it's one of the most incredibly loving metal things ever drawn, and to not mention that would be ridiculous, it's arguably the main surface appeal of Berserk, but there is legitimately a loving lot going on underneath that surface, or, well, we wouldn't get this situation, where people are so passionate about it that they're full-throatedly defending naked children in an almost totally unrelated series, and I'm jumping into the lion's den to be like "actually Berserk is pretty loving amazing regardless of all this poo poo and y'all shouldn't take this as a measure of its quality." WeedlordGoku69 has a new favorite as of 06:35 on Nov 15, 2019 |
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Honestly, it's weird that Stephen King gets a big pass for the amount of hosed up poo poo he's written, that I assume is related to working through some massive childhood trauma or something. I kinda soured on reading his stuff once I stepped back and realized how messed up some of it is, it's not really a big endorsement that a lot of people ignore that.
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Captain Hygiene posted:Honestly, it's weird that Stephen King gets a big pass for the amount of hosed up poo poo he's written, that I assume is related to working through some massive childhood trauma or something. I kinda soured on reading his stuff once I stepped back and realized how messed up some of it is, it's not really a big endorsement that a lot of people ignore that. but i mean, you get it in that case, too, right? like, if people like a dude's work, they're generally gonna be more inclined to look over the bad poo poo, and you're not generally gonna get people joining in on roasting the dude if you're specifically going into a place populated by fans of that dude, even if they should be joining in. for the record, i agree, i'm not a King fan and that's basically why. i like movies of his work specifically because they always remove the weird sex poo poo.
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Captain Hygiene posted:Honestly, it's weird that Stephen King gets a big pass for the amount of hosed up poo poo he's written, that I assume is related to working through some massive childhood trauma or something. I kinda soured on reading his stuff once I stepped back and realized how messed up some of it is, it's not really a big endorsement that a lot of people ignore that. He started out writing a decent crime fiction series but by the third book he decided "ugggh regular criminals it's aliens from the internet for this one!" so he's also a garbage writer besides all the up-fuckedry.
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:it didn't quote:like, that's pretty much gonna be the entirety of the Berserk fandom right there: it's a fandom with a very very comically high bar for "too hosed up to read" and like 30 years of goodwill built up towards the guy who's doing it. This is clearly stating that the people who tolerated the existence and discussion of the child sexualizing comic did so because the creator’s other work, Berserk, had primed them to do so.
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Look I think there's fair arguments to be made from both sides of the aisle here but I think at the end of the day you have to ask yourself what separates anime from other types of media that it necessitates its own particular subforum. And, look, I think if you're honest with yourself you'd have to say it comes down to two factors. 1: That's it's made in Japan and 2: That it's chock full of loving pedo poo poo.
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Pastry of the Year posted:This was gonna be the probe image re: "ok boomer" until Smythe (rightly, I was still being too gentle as a new mod) extended it. Enjoy this deleted scene
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Ariong posted:This is clearly stating that the people who tolerated the existence and discussion of the child sexualizing comic did so because the creator’s other work, Berserk, had primed them to do so. yeah, you're misreading me a little. the problem isn't specifically Berserk; it's a general issue with people who create some things that are very good, and some things that should not exist or be discussed. it is also not some magical crack-ping brain-breaking that occurs when you enjoy the good thing that person made; it is a result of being primed to like that person's works by their other thing being good, and as a result of this, not thinking critically about the possibility that the new thing is bad and should not exist or be discussed. by being aware of this problem, you can avoid it fairly easily; my first statement was noting that I'm not having this happen, because you seemed like you were accusing me of it. Funky See Funky Do posted:Look I think there's fair arguments to be made from both sides of the aisle here but I think at the end of the day you have to ask yourself what separates anime from other types of media that it necessitates its own particular subforum. And, look, I think if you're honest with yourself you'd have to say it comes down to two factors. 1: That's it's made in Japan and 2: That it's chock full of loving pedo poo poo. i 100% fully agree with this- if it weren't for the bulk of anime and manga being awful, and the bulk of anime and manga fans being awful, it would probably fit in BSS/TVIV/CD just fine (and, frankly, the stuff that isn't poo poo tends to get discussed there anyways, if not as heavily). however, a lot of why i have historically liked ADTRW is because it was typically very intolerant of pedo anime and manga, and having a space to discuss it without 4chan poo poo dominating the conversation was nice (and will be nice again soon, hopefully).
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Yes please let's drop the ADTRW/anime/etc chat for now. It's no longer adding anything of value to this thread.
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Fantastic Flyer posted:I like seeing a bunch of permabans because I get to sift through a ton of drama to figure out what happened. It's like being a pathetic Sherlock Holmes. At least it's something break up the endless "UNFAIR PROBE IN D&D" threads clogging up QCS.
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Jerry Cotton posted:He started out writing a decent crime fiction series but by the third book he decided "ugggh regular criminals it's aliens from the internet for this one!" so he's also a garbage writer besides all the up-fuckedry. Can we talk about this, even tho its off topic? Because trying to reconcile this with Stephen King is making my head hurt
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RFC2324 posted:Can we talk about this, even tho its off topic? Sorry to spoil the last book but it's: 
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Fantastic Flyer posted:I like seeing a bunch of permabans because I get to sift through a ton of drama to figure out what happened. It's like being a pathetic Sherlock Holmes. I'm just glad that this unexpected turn of events is behind and will never happen again.
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You know the old adage, that good writers are not popular, and popular writers are not good? Well, Stephen King is very, very popular.
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King just writes shitloads of stories and gets by on law of averages. Also Berserk is better compared to Game of Thrones content wise.
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Jerry Cotton posted:Sorry to spoil the last book but it's: never even heard of the series. the first books thing made me assume you meant back in the 70s when he wanted to write fantasy
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RFC2324 posted:never even heard of the series. the first books thing made me assume you meant back in the 70s when he wanted to write fantasy That was dark tower. I'm not sure if I liked it but it went places.
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Don Gato posted:That was dark tower. I'm not sure if I liked it but it went places. Eyes of the Dragon came first, then Dark Tower. I liked the first 2, then it started getting so weird it didn't make any sense anymore
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Who knew fishmech ran a creepy goon porn ftp server??? e: who would want goon porn anyways????!
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Stephen King is actually a very good author, and, at his best, completely untouchable in his space. The problem is he should have stopped writing novels 25 years ago. Let him stick to short fiction from now on.
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Turtlicious posted:Who knew fishmech ran a creepy goon porn ftp server??? Wow, that's one hell of a Leper's Colony entry
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Veni Vidi Ameche! posted:Stephen King is actually a very good author, and, at his best, completely untouchable in his space. The problem is he should have stopped writing novels 25 years ago. Let him stick to short fiction from now on. Stephen King should have kept directing movies during that period where he was constantly high and/or drunk. Maximum Overdrive is not a good movie by any definition of the word but it only could have been made by a crazy man.
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RFC2324 posted:I liked the first 2, then it started getting so weird it didn't make any sense anymore Wizard and Glass is pretty much the turning point for me. Just the right amount of western coming of age with random "yes it's the Wizard of Oz" at the end to throw me. Sometimes I pretend Wolves of the Calla was the last one and he's still working up a good script for a followup because Song of Suzannah was just.... eeegghhhh. King's at his best when the goofy supernatural stuff is just sheen on his social critiques. Like Carrie. Second best are the shorts that end just right and give you enough leeway to fill the blanks in. Like The Jaunt. Honorable mention for the weird poo poo that sticks in your head for days like the Boogeyman story or I Am the Doorway.
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Turtlicious posted:Who knew fishmech ran a creepy goon porn ftp server??? I seriously cannot loving believe that's what did 'em in. I was always expecting it to be something like fishmeching some really terrible opinion and refusing to back down to the point it became too weird to tolerate.
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Turtlicious posted:Who knew fishmech ran a creepy goon porn ftp server??? Huh, I honestly don't understand what goon porn is, and I both count that as a blessing and am busy distracting myself so I don't try to look it up.
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Baka-nin posted:Huh, I honestly don't understand what goon porn is, and I both count that as a blessing and am busy distracting myself so I don't try to look it up. porn with goons
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Telsa Cola posted:A fishmech permaban is kinda stunning and I want to know what the hell happened where that all came out. Let's be honest, a fishmech perma has been a long time coming. Fishmech has consistently been one of the worst posters I've ever seen for a very long time.
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Telsa Cola posted:A fishmech permaban is kinda stunning and I want to know what the hell happened where that all came out. seriously, did they get an anonymous tip or something? and then they verified it? these are great sagas in their own right. i want details i guess if somebody reregs and knows the things fishmech knows, but without the abrasive posting style, then maybe that person will slip under the radar and be a good addition to some good, deep threads in a variety of forums
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Jerry Cotton posted:Sorry to spoil the last book but it's: I’m not sure where you’re getting “aliens from the Internet.” Grady getting psychic powers is established as a consequence of the head trauma he suffers at the climax of Mr. Mercedes, and is expanded upon in the coda and further foreshadowed in Finders Keepers. It was very obvious that it was a trilogy from the get go and that it would end with a horror novel standoff against Grady.
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Arivia posted:I’m not sure where you’re getting “aliens from the Internet.” Grady getting psychic powers is established as a consequence of the head trauma he suffers at the climax of Mr. Mercedes, and is expanded upon in the coda and further foreshadowed in Finders Keepers. It was very obvious that it was a trilogy from the get go and that it would end with a horror novel standoff against Grady. "Psychic from Popstations" counts as "Aliens from the Internet" in my book  How the dude got psychic Popstation Internet powers is rather beside the point.
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