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Kevlar v2.0 posted:A figure skater gave me the advice "don't think about crossing over your feet, think about crossing over your thighs," which helped me get the motion better. Wow I tried this last night and it does actually feel way better, it gets you to bring your outside foot right up high and over.
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xzzy posted:The advice in those videos isn't bad, but a big problem with most youtube tutorials is they make too many assumptions.. that you're already good on your edges, have decent hockey conditioning, you're already doing crossovers to some extent, or are worried getting more speed. That's hard to make use of for people that may not be able to glide on one edge yet because all the building blocks are missing. That's why the best advice is going to be to take classes/lessons because without someone seeing you skate it's going to be hard to know what to recommend. It's probably not impossible to self train yourself to skate better from books/videos/etc but having a live teacher is probably going to be way easier on you. bewbies posted:one of the refs in our game last night was a no poo poo tripod skater, and was also grossly overweight. like his ankles bent inwards and you could hear his edges complaining about it. we ended up losing to our Main Rival on a late goal that only went in because he missed a very blatant penalty in front of our net...because he was still on the other end of the ice. My league is the same way. We have refs who are players in the lower level leagues that ref our games. They do their best, but they can't keep up with the speed of the games they're reffing. I try not to chirp them. It's not their fault really that they have to ref our games. There just aren't enough people that want to ref. And there especially aren't enough people who want to ref who have the skating/knowledge to ref our games. Ginette Reno fucked around with this message at 22:24 on Jan 29, 2020 |
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Jan 29, 2020 22:21
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 This wasn't my game but our goalie watched this unfold. (Div 3 GSHL). Our periods are 2 x 18 minute run clocks with 3rd period being 18 minutes stop time. 
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Jan 30, 2020 23:01
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High-scoring games rule, but woof, that’s some terrible D.
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Jan 30, 2020 23:04
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I swear the scorekeepers at the Everett community rink count every shot attempt as a shot on goal. Every one of our games up there ends up with wildly inflated totals.
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Jan 30, 2020 23:18
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I'm convinced someone spilled some of their vape juice in the shot button and it sticks. One of my last games was 60 something to 60 something. I know we dont play the best defense but I highly doubt it was that high.
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Jan 30, 2020 23:38
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drat, are they just counting shots from the whole day or what
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Jan 31, 2020 01:51
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Just looked that game up and am thankful I declined it. Didn't want to play in Everett. Judging by the previous games between those teams, those totals might not be too inflated. E: 
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Jan 31, 2020 01:59
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sellouts posted:Get to the gym, work on flexibility and strength. Core, glutes, legs. Deadlifts, kettlebell swings, squats, lunges, all of it. I need to start doing this again. I was doing one of those 5x5 programs a couple years ago and I noticed a huge difference. Once the weights started getting heavy I started getting concerned about loving my knee or back up with poor form though and slowly gave it up, and now I'm back to being the guy getting sand kicked in his face in that charles atlas comic. Anyone done any dumbbell/bodyweight stuff for hockey? I'm thinking I could probably get into a good routine in my basement. I'm feeling especially slow and lovely lately even though I'm playing a ton and taking two classes/week.
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Jan 31, 2020 15:48
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Yes, my routine for the past year has been in the basement. It's basically the same scheme sellouts suggested, but I add some pushups, planks and rows to help with upper body. I don't have much of a weight selection, heaviest I got is a 35lb dumbbell but I make it work. Since my shooting pad is right next to the bench I also work my hands with a stickhandling ball and maybe take a few shots.
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Jan 31, 2020 16:42
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My weekly workout routine is sitting on the couch playing video games for 4 days and playing hockey for the other 3.
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prom candy posted:Anyone done any dumbbell/bodyweight stuff for hockey? I'm thinking I could probably get into a good routine in my basement. I'm feeling especially slow and lovely lately even though I'm playing a ton and taking two classes/week. Find a personal trainer in your area and take a handful of kettlebell classes to learn proper form. I did CrossFit, and like your fears hurt myself pretty badly. So then I found a guy locally who did strength training for colleges in Michigan (rare in LA to find anyone with real hockey experience) and now he’s an official in our games. A handful of lessons to do it safely helped me. Kettlebells and deadlifts are the free weights I use and it’s a pretty good deal. I still can’t do a Turkish getup but I’m also out of my routine now. For core stuff between sets I’d do Animal Flow for core work. Basically just variations of the beast so I’m not looking like an idiot flailing around taking up a bunch of floor space. Pushups own (and are super hard to do correctly if you have never done it before. It took me weeks to learn because I suck!). Pull-ups, also hard! Sliders are cheap. Trx if your gym has it, great for body weight. Medicine ball work, if you have access, great. Resistance treadmill for sled pushes as a burnout at the end is also great. You also don’t need a set of kbs for that. You just need one and you can make any workout as difficult as you want. Edit: for non hockey specific this isn’t bad: https://furthermore.equinox.com/hawaii#/training-plan. The renegade rows only hold the plank and move left and right across another set of dumbbells was another regular workout. sellouts fucked around with this message at 17:19 on Jan 31, 2020 |
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Anything you do will help. I lean toward less heavy weights and more body weight HIIT stuff now. I can play harder for longer doing the interval training than just weights.
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You can do a surprising amount with body weight exercises. Most of hockey is plyometrics which is all HIIT. Have fun vomiting.
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xzzy posted:Yes, my routine for the past year has been in the basement. It's basically the same scheme sellouts suggested, but I add some pushups, planks and rows to help with upper body. I don't have much of a weight selection, heaviest I got is a 35lb dumbbell but I make it work. Add a slickdeals alert for the Bowflex Selecttech dumbbells. They rule if you're looking for multiple dumbbell weights.
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Jan 31, 2020 20:08
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Ginette Reno posted:It's probably not impossible to self train yourself to skate better from books/videos/etc but having a live teacher is probably going to be way easier on you. ...otherwise you end up with a weird old-man-tries-to-skate-fast stride like me. I need to take another power skating course and have 'em try and fix my poo poo.
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Duke Chin posted:...otherwise you end up with a weird old-man-tries-to-skate-fast stride like me. I need to take another power skating course and have 'em try and fix my poo poo. BEND YOUR KNEES
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Duke Chin posted:...otherwise you end up with a weird old-man-tries-to-skate-fast stride like me. I need to take another power skating course and have 'em try and fix my poo poo. This is basically me and 90% of adult learners I've seen. I'm faster than most people in my lower league because I have strong legs from years of lifting, but my stride is utter garbage unless I'm super aware of getting as low as I can, and even then it looks stupid.
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Well if the current topic is hulking out in the gym, if your hip mobility sucks it's going to limit your speed too. You might have the world's beefiest glutes but if the smaller muscles can't help out, your ability to apply technique is gonna suffer. Look up how to work your hip adductors. And isometrics. Or just do lunges, you can get the "isometric" part of it by doing the lunge but not letting your knee hit the ground then hold it for a few seconds. None of us get as low as we should, but it's not the only issue to look in to. 
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Lets not talk about hip flexors. Mine hurt purely from the mention. Also, don't hurt your psoas. It sucks.
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sellouts posted:
This looks like a good place to start, thanks. I hate going to the gym but I can do all this at home and then incorporate some shooting pad stuff as well. Anybody doing yoga regularly? I'm taking this power skating class with my wife and after it's over we're talking about finding a weekly yoga class. My flexibility is garbage. I guess it should be no surprise that I'm dogging it on the ice because I keep getting older and not working out. I always think I'm doing okay because I play hockey and a lot of my friends don't play any sports or exercise at all but that's a pretty low bar. Plus those aren't the guys I'm competing against.
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I don’t get shooting pad stuff tbh. Get a $10 pair of sliders and just do 20 of those in a row on each leg then 20 cross strides then some pushups and repeat until burned out
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Because shooting pucks is fun?
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prom candy posted:Anybody doing yoga regularly? I'm taking this power skating class exwith my wife and after it's over we're talking about finding a weekly yoga class. My flexibility is garbage. I do yoga or Pilates twice a week and it's helped my flexibility quite a bit. Good stuff.
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Verman posted:Lets not talk about hip flexors. Mine hurt purely from the mention. I needed 6 weeks of physical therapy to get over my hip flexor injury. I tweaked it again about a year later, but not as badly as the first time and after just a week of doing all the exercises I was taught at PT from the previous injury, it got better.
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At a critical junction: kid needs new shinguards. Trying to convince him tongue-under-shins is the weak sauce route, and tongue out is the way of champions. Update to follow. Edit: he has chosen to let the tongue be free! a mysterious cloak fucked around with this message at 01:01 on Feb 2, 2020 |
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a mysterious cloak posted:At a critical junction: kid needs new shinguards. Trying to convince him tongue-under-shins is the weak sauce route, and tongue out is the way of champions. In other news, had a game last night and in the dying seconds 1-goal down I was chasing after a puck that went behind the boards. A guy from the other team was pressuring me and eventually we went awkwardly into the boards. He was behind me and kinda gave me a shove so I was a bit miffed that once we landed on the ground he was pissed at me and tried to punch me in the head for, well I don't quite know. So I punched him right back once or twice before both got up and no penalties were called.
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Guy on my team had a freak accident during our game last night and had to be carried off the ice then taken to the hospital by ambulance. He caught an edge too hard, went over wrong, and broke his leg in two places along with likely getting his ankle too. He sent us a picture of the x-rays, it’s bad and he’ll be off the ice for at least a few months. Refs didn’t really help the situation. The opposing team had the puck but actually handed over possession once they saw the man down and the refs still wouldn’t blow the whistle. Took everyone yelling at them and one guy finally physically turning a ref for them to stop the play.
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We had that two years ago. Same thing, guy caught to much of an edge, collapsed an his weight into that leg but the edge kept holding place. He twist-snapped his tibia and fibula? Near his shin and down by his ankle. I don't think he skated for a solid year. Had rods and screws put in. When we helped him off the ice his foot was pointed a solid 90° outward.
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I've seen three shattered ankles from stuff like that, turn funny and something pops and congratulations you're out for a year and you got metal in your leg. Two of them were relatively new skaters, not sure if it's possible to draw conclusions from three data points but it does suggest a pattern!
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Verman posted:We had that two years ago. Same thing, guy caught to much of an edge, collapsed an his weight into that leg but the edge kept holding place. He twist-snapped his tibia and fibula? Near his shin and down by his ankle. I don't think he skated for a solid year. Had rods and screws put in. When we helped him off the ice his foot was pointed a solid 90° outward. His foot wasn’t that bad, but from looking at the x-ray that’s exactly where everything broke. He and his wife actually posted the photo to social media already. Surgery is tomorrow.
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sellouts posted:
Did a reduced round 1 of this today, turns out I'm badly out of shape! This should keep me busy for a while.
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prom candy posted:Did a reduced round 1 of this today, turns out I'm badly out of shape! This should keep me busy for a while. Yeah it’s really hard and you don’t have to do super heavy weights! A woman on our team had a tib/fib fracture on Friday night. Still gonna come hang at pond hockey which is loving dope and so hardcore.
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Played 2-on-2 outdoor half rink hockey on Friday night with some pals. Weather was awesome, 30f degrees, not a cloud in the sky. Never held a stick in my life, only been on ice skates twice (been skating roller derby for ~5 years), but I wasn't a complete liability and even scored a goal by shooting the puck at an empty beer can in the net. I'm completely hooked on hockey. Now to hit up the zillion or so stores around me for some used gear.
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one of us, one of us
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Don't neglect starting your spreadsheet of ice time, start it now so you know the records are accurate.
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prom candy posted:one of us, one of us  xzzy posted:Don't neglect starting your spreadsheet of ice time, start it now so you know the records are accurate.
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Whatever you do, don't record expenses of any kind (medical, league fees, gear, ice time, beer) or you might want to stop if your significant other doesn't already force you to.
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Verman posted:Whatever you do, don't record expenses of any kind (medical, league fees, gear, ice time, beer) or you might want to stop if your significant other doesn't already force you to.
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 Definitely don't track expenses (equipment, medical, or otherwise). Other than that, have fun, don't worry about sucking (we all suck), and the answer to all disputes is to break the other guy's stick. Or take a dump in his glove.
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