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Scientastic posted:To be clear, the problem with the last quote is the word "people", I'm not trying to take that quote out of context, here it is in full: Do you disagree with that? The lurker who shits a vote out on someone is not the same as the person who suddenly makes a case viable or persuasive or productive.
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merk posted:Not a single player has come to KK's defense in the slightest. This is a lynch of scum, folks. themselves included
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Apr 16, 2020 22:00
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I don't disagree with the sentiment, what I don't like is the "I am making myself personally accountable" coupled with "don't forget all these other people who want to lynch KK" It's like he knows the alignment of KK, and either doesn't want to make it too obvious that he's bussing, or doesn't want to be held solely responsible for lycnhing town.
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Apr 16, 2020 22:01
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merk posted:Not a single player has come to KK's defense in the slightest. This is a lynch of scum, folks. QFT.
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Apr 16, 2020 22:05
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merk posted:Not a single player has come to KK's defense in the slightest. This is a lynch of scum, folks. I think the cases against KK are weak
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Apr 16, 2020 22:05
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People are acting like it's a big gotcha, it's really not
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Apr 16, 2020 22:06
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And xopods is trying to simultaneously act like he's leading the charge and being an aggressive scum hunter AND he's trying to say that the effort is being shared
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Apr 16, 2020 22:07
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Ok. Make a persuasive xopods case if you want the vote to move.
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Apr 16, 2020 22:09
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merk posted:Ok. Make a persuasive xopods case if you want the vote to move. I will have to do so tomorrow, I'm afraid. I am literally off to bed now. See you tomorrow, muggles! Remember: 
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Apr 16, 2020 22:11
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Scientastic posted:Xopods definitely setting up for lynching KK then lynching merk off the back of whatever the flip is Yeah no, I'm definitely not voting merk in the near future regardless. Barring night action claims or whatever. But I feel like he's probably Town cause the case is good... only likely merk Scum scenario is a bus because he felt KK messed up badly enough that I'd end up getting him lunched with or without help. I can't imagine merk joins me in this case if he knows KK is Town, for the reason I said before... he could just say my case is dumb and go off and make his own case and ignore me and it'd be like every other game in history with me and merk in it.
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Apr 16, 2020 22:14
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I love the archetypes of the four hogwarts houses: gryffindor: good guys slytherin: bad guys hufflepuff: they don’t care ravenclaw: smart???
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Apr 16, 2020 22:20
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Scientastic posted:Xopods definitely setting up for lynching KK then lynching merk off the back of whatever the flip is This is an incredibly scummy post. Possibly the scummiest the entire game thus far. Xopods incredibly weird 'this is how mafia works!' attitude is weird and this just...really strange mafia parenting I haven't seen in a long time, but in no way has any of their posting indicated they would be interested in merk going after KK. You're trying to set it up like xopods is going for a chain lynch but there's no support to back that up, because the case is not good enough to stand on its own so it needs hypothetical to make xopods sound worse
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Apr 16, 2020 22:20
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Sandwolf posted:I love the archetypes of the four hogwarts houses: https://twitter.com/tvscarlkinsella/status/762038953721597953?lang=en
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Apr 16, 2020 22:44
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Sandwolf posted:I love the archetypes of the four hogwarts houses: Grifs: Main Characters Slyths: Antagonists Ravenclaw: Plot chraacters. Hufflepuffs: People to die.
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Apr 16, 2020 22:50
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Kashuno posted:You're trying to set it up like xopods is going for a chain lynch but there's no support to back that up, because the case is not good enough to stand on its own so it needs hypothetical to make xopods sound worse
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Apr 16, 2020 22:56
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KK: lynched merk: hero
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Apr 16, 2020 22:57
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Hal Incandenza posted:Liger is John Cena!? OFFICER LIGER posted:##vote epsilon plus hang mother fucker
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Apr 16, 2020 22:58
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What am I missing about KK, they've barely posted
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Apr 16, 2020 23:16
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merk posted:I kind of flipped on this too. Kloaked jumping in to discredit my case against him by trying to highlight some hypocrisy and then fading off into nothingland without giving any new read is scummy. I worked overnight so have been sleeping all day. I don’t necessarily disagree with your case, since I’m voting Absalon for similar reasons, I just was having difficulty understanding what I felt was hypocrisy on your part
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Apr 16, 2020 23:18
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kingcobweb posted:What am I missing about KK, they've barely posted He posted plenty up until DBD, me and merk all cased him in rapid succession and the votes started coming in. If you read the three of us you'll see why we all think he's scum... we all focused on different aspects of his history but FWIW I also agree with the points both of them made.
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Apr 16, 2020 23:23
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yuming posted:EP, tell me who is scum. hello I just woke up, let me warm up the Posting Engine and bring the Casing Turbine up to speed going to do a quick re-read of everything I just read, but while I'm here I want to point out something: yuming posted:##vote Epsilon Plus OFFICER LIGER posted:##vote epsilon plus hang mother fucker yuming, if you think I'm not ~engaging with the content~, does OFFICER LIGER (this will always be all-capsed btw) get a free pass? also I'd like to note that the three votes on me are from people I've barely (if ever) played with, who maybe don't understand my most excellent Posting Art. still can't believe that Kloaked doesn't think I'm taking a strong stance on CapnAndy after my posts. a post can be funny and jokey and also convey Scumhunter Sentiment. biggest possible lmao from my corner
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Apr 17, 2020 00:08
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xopods posted:I'm kinda being guilty of what I just accused KCW of here, but it's what I see as a solid D1 plan for Scum: push really hard on a case you don't think is quite persuasive enough to get others to follow you on it, while less directly fanning the flames on other likely lunches. It's a way of appearing to behave as Town while avoiding accountability. I mean I can kind of see this, it's one of the things I don't like that Liger did - he threw some passive attention at Capn Andy right as he was gaining votes without actually saying he was scummy or accusing him. In this case I'm pushing my favored candidate but also addressing the conversations of the day. The more everyone goes on record on various topics the better for everyone.
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Hello I'm back from doing other stuff, sleeping, and then doing my actual job which I'm very lucky to have, and must keep reminding myself of that! Chaff first:xopods posted:Probably we'd conclude that "we" lunched him because "we" couldn't agree on someone else who seemed scummier. That's a bad lunch. Actual important thoughts: Dexanth posted:Okay this person has gotten no scrutiny so ##Vote Mr. Humalong merk posted:Yeah, I saw this too. I thought it was weird Humalong voted Kashuno after me when I made no case. Part of me thought I might be right and that's a scum buddy distancing thinking I might have would up to making a claim, but then I thought I was overthinking it. The KK thing: I wanted to do a reread for myself, so I checked KK's post history, and... god, look for yourselves. Take away the pre-game and joke stuff and you're left with five votes. Five! And he hasn't posted at all in the last literal 24 hours. KK's one decently meaty post, the one with the immediate "nothing blew my skirt up/this screams scum" contradiction that drew the votes in the first place, is perhaps defensible. I'd like to see the defense. I'd like to see any KK posts. I think the silence is much more damning. ##vote KK
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Mafia edit: Five posts, not votes.
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Apr 17, 2020 00:25
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CapnAndy posted:Please tell me why you keep saying "lunch", man, it's not a typo, it's consistent. Browser plugin? Inside joke? as a community we've decided that "lynch" has some real unfortunate connotations also "lunch" enables a lot of puns and good, clean, funny jokes that can also distantly evoke cannibalism, which I'm always down for
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CapnAndy posted:Hello I'm back from doing other stuff, sleeping, and then doing my actual job which I'm very lucky to have, and must keep reminding myself of that! Chaff first: To avoid the negative connectations associated with Lynch we have adopted other words, lunch, cuddle, execute.
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Oh that's very fair. I'll try to use other words too.
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Apr 17, 2020 00:29
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CapnAndy posted:I'd like to see any KK posts. I think the silence is much more damning. 
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Apr 17, 2020 00:29
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Spoonsy posted:Hi everyone. I forgot how quick large games move. What's the "amni bus" in reference to?
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Tom Tucker posted:I mean I can kind of see this, it's one of the things I don't like that Liger did - he threw some passive attention at Capn Andy right as he was gaining votes without actually saying he was scummy or accusing him. In this case I'm pushing my favored candidate but also addressing the conversations of the day. The more everyone goes on record on various topics the better for everyone. Can you answer the question I posed to you in my last post? Still curious.
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zzyzx posted:What's the "amni bus" in reference to? is that a scumslip?!
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Apr 17, 2020 00:41
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CapnAndy posted:Oh that's very fair. I'll try to use other words too. I think lunch is stupid but it's one fewer letter than "launch" which is only slightly less stupid. I started using "David" as a verb for a bit, as in to "David Lynch" someone, but ultimately decided to just follow the herd.
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zzyzx posted:What's the "amni bus" in reference to? Might be my initial post on KK where I said he looked like he was manufacturing questions for Amni to answer/weird scumbros interaction between them.
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Deadbeat Dad posted:Might be my initial post on KK where I said he looked like he was manufacturing questions for Amni to answer/weird scumbros interaction between them. That's not "bussing," though. Nor would be saying you think Amni and Andy are both town.
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xopods is doing a lot of Mafia Dadding, talking about how things are and should be, bringing up The Meta, etc. etc. - it feels a lot like someone setting themselves up to be viewed as the arbiter of discussion for future days, especially when there's so many people who wouldn't have played with him ever or have no real knowledge of his existance (related: this game has a shitton of creaky old farts that I don't recognize and there's going to be a lot of horseshit clashing about How To Play Mafia from older players vs. newer ones that I'm already preemptively sick of. none of us are good at mafia, no living human being is good at mafia) xopods also barely interacts with CapnAndy. there's some horseshit about how Andy has a gambit named after him because he's such a ~good player~ or w/e, and then there's this: xopods posted:Like, I don't particularly think CapnAndy is Scum, but he wouldn't be a terrible lunch cause that movement's got clear origins in Amni and Sandwolf. just touching on CapnAndy just enough to not seem like he's been totally blanked, but putting all the responsibility for the lunch on two people. setting up to case Amni or Sandwolf as scum if Andy flips town, setting up to case Amni or Sandwolf as gently, tenderly bussing Andy if Andy flips scum. that being said I do think there's a real legit case on KK. the posting is low even by D1 standards, and has completely dried up. since yuming placed a geas on me to say who I think is scum, I definitely think there's scum in the xopods/CapnAndy/Khris Kruel set. possibilities: A. CapnAndy is scum, xopods and KK are town. xopods has found what he believes to be a more compelling case and it's gained traction; with 27 players it's hard for everyone to consider all possibilities and it's probably better to make a case you believe is strongest. B. CapnAndy and xopods are both scum and purposefully using the game size to maintain distance. C. CapnAndy is town with KK, xopods is scum - I've made my statement earlier in this post about how xopods may be posturing/setting up for future game days D1. KK and xopods are scum. KK has to check out of the game, but doesn't have a strong/interesting enough scum power to be worth getting a replacement for when xopods can get a slam dunk D1 bus and set himself up as being God-Emperor of Mafia. D2. KK and xopods are scum. xopods has made a strong case on KK, but KK will be back later to refute and post up enough content to stop the momentum. day ends in a no-lunch or traction is built on one of the lesser cases present. E. KK is scum, xopods and CapnAndy are town. xopods made a good catch and I will owe him my fealty forevermore for disrespecting him
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also I hate to be the guy who does this because I think it's a lovely way to pad your postcount but: bowmore and ASAPRockySituation are in this game?
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bowmore, at least, suffers from an untreatable affliction: he’s Australian
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Deadbeat Dad posted:Curious about this. Is being busy/lurking/anxious to reply (whatever the reason being of not posting) a town tell? In only the vaguest sense that I find people who come out of the woodwork when they get accused or voted to be suspicious for two possible reasons: either they are lurking in the thread and not posting (scummy) or they have communications avenues with other people (part of a scum team) who then AIM / SA PM them saying "dude you're getting bandwagoned". The fact that KK hasn't come in to do anything as the bandwagon has grown suggests to me he is more likely to be town, but again it's not a strong read. I'd say returning in quickly after a case is scummy (and one of the first things that made me look at Liger, by the way!) but not being around could have a lot of reasons so it's just a tiny bit townie.
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CapnAndy posted:I think "you're not gonna have much to go on D1" is a universally true statement, is the thing. I've been in games that hit scum on D1 too, but it's rare and usually happened by purely random chance. I do not have much faith in D1, I think all the cases today will be bad, and I have not wavered in what I want to do, which is to just let the day play out and then lynch a lurker. Hey, this guy seems really really interested in how other people perceive him. Why weigh your response? Is that a town perspective? I posit that it is the perspective of someone with something to hide. Amni's post directly after confirms my belief that he is probably town. Amni is the most obvious scum player that I can recall and that post mirrors my gut read. Merk is just posting aggro baseless bs like he always does and then line-in-the-sanding everybody until he decides he's satisfied with what he's found. I don't feel he's doing so from a place of righteousness, however, but rather see a merk that is throwing poo poo against a wall. "Soul Read"? Later, this weak rear end post: merk posted:KK's tone reads pretty scummy. He's acting like town leader in posts but hasn't done anything to really advance discussion. followed up by a vote and a half-hearted request for people to look back on his dogshit miku case that he opens with "none of these cases are sexy, but..." I truly did not expect to actually be voting merk after joke voting him and then going afk for two days, but here we are. Next post for more reading.
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Tom Tucker posted:In only the vaguest sense that I find people who come out of the woodwork when they get accused or voted to be suspicious for two possible reasons: either they are lurking in the thread and not posting (scummy) or they have communications avenues with other people (part of a scum team) who then AIM / SA PM them saying "dude you're getting bandwagoned". I get what you're saying, but I have also been on scum teams where someone is absolutely getting railroaded/heat is headed their way and they don't really answer the calls/warnings/pleadings of their scumbuddies, so all of that stuff could still be very well happening in theory.
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