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BrigadierSensible posted:Whilst there are probably others, my go to guy for a big famous wrestler that never won the big Championship is Mr. Perfect. Hennig held the AWA World title and won it off of Bockwinkel so it wasn't exactly a nothing belt yet.
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Hirez posted:Cody? Cody was ROH World champ for like six months in 2017, so he’s disqualified from this Ted DiBiase held top belts but never won a “world” singles title, only top national belts in territory promotions. The highest he ever got was winning a third of All Japan’s Triple Crown before the Triple Crown existed (the NWA United National Championship, so not even the international title or the PWF world belt, lol), unless you want to count Andre giving the WWF belt over to him after the twin Hebner cheat on SNME as an actual reign; he did defend the belt on a house show against Bam Bam a few days later, and wasn’t officially stripped until the next week’s Superstars, so... grey area, really. But I feel like nobody’s ever considered that a real title reign. WWE doesn’t list him on the website under the title holders, which I suppose would be the most official source.
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Vandar posted:As far as women go, it still surprises me when I remember that Torrie Wilson never held the women's title. She did, however, retire undefeated in the following match types: Lingerie Match Egg Nog Match Valentine's Day Bra & Panties Match Playboy Evening Gown Tag Match Playboy Pillow Fight Match Kimono Match Cheerleader Tag Match Wet and Wild Water Contest Her real curse was going a shocking 1-3 in Paddle on a Pole Spanking Matches. For the time Torrie was in the company the only people who held the Women's Title were Trish Stratus, Jazz, Molly Holly, Victoria, Gail Kim, Lita, Mickie James, and right at the very end of her tenure, Melina. It wasn't a workrate belt per se, but there was a pretty clear division between (for lack of better terms) Divas and Women Wrestlers. They'd interact/overlap sometimes, but Torrie was spending a lot more time in mixed tags with whoever she was managing or in matches/feuds with Stacey Kiebler, Dawn Marie, Nidia, Candice Michelle, Ashley, and other people who also never really went got title matches either. Immediately before Torrie came in the belt was being traded around to people like The Kat and Debra and defended in Snow Bunny and Gravy Bowl and Bra and Panties matches and etc. but from 2002-2007 they kind of sort of kept the women's belt 'serious', if an utter afterthought. Edge & Christian fucked around with this message at 04:40 on May 2, 2020 |
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Cavauro posted:when did it become a nothing belt? CWA leaving? Probably while Lawler was champion. Things were really bad when Hennig won it, but by the time he was gone and PPV bombed it was just a shell of a company.
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Hacksaw Jim Duggan won the very first Royal Rumble and is a WWE Hall of Famer, yet never won a title in WWE. Yeah he won the US and TV titles once each in WCW but we don't talk about that.
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Dell_Zincht posted:Hacksaw Jim Duggan won the very first Royal Rumble and is a WWE Hall of Famer, yet never won a title in WWE. somewhere in the afterlife, The Brain is still sideways laughing at Duggan.
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Dell_Zincht posted:Hacksaw Jim Duggan won the very first Royal Rumble and is a WWE Hall of Famer, yet never won a title in WWE. what, you didn't love his barn-burners against the likes of Fidel Sierra?
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STAC Goat posted:I think the Mask stuff might have been a weird accident. Like he would always say stuff like "Its showtime!" but then when you say it while acting like that you've accidently become Jim Carrey. quote:And for the record if a big bird is let loose in my office I too "sell for the bird."
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Edge & Christian posted:Her real curse was going a shocking 1-3 in Paddle on a Pole Spanking Matches. Whose idea was that and why did they do at least four of them?
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Maigius posted:Whose idea was that and why did they do at least four of them? A) Vince Russo. B) Because it's Vince Russo.
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Dell_Zincht posted:A) Vince Russo. Torrie Wilson didn't join WWE until after WCW folded, so no it wasn't Russo
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Maigius posted:Whose idea was that and why did they do at least four of them? As for why, the answer every time appears to be Vince backstage, but in kayfabe: July 23, 2001 (Raw): (Torrie Wilson d. Trish Stratus) Heel WCW Invader Wilson is mad that Stratus ripped off her clothes during a Bra & Panties tag match at the Invasion PPV, challenges her to a Paddle on a Pole match to prove which company's women are "more dominant". Also possibly to flirt Jeff Hardy over to the WCW side? Wilson retrieves the paddle in 2:26 and spanks Stratus with it. April 1, 2002 (Raw): (Trish Stratus d. Terri Runnels) Ric Flair is the new co-owner of WWE and the (first) brand split is a week old. Runnels confronts Stratus backstage for having an ego about appearing on the cover of a WWE swimsuit issue and attacks her. Ric Flair tells them both to put on bikinis and since they're acting like children, one of them will get a spanking. Stratus wins in under two minutes, but there is no spanking, because Molly Holly runs in and breaks the paddle over Stratus's head. October 7, 2002 (Raw): (Trish Stratus d. Stacey Kiebler) Eric Bischoff is now the GM of Raw and doing Raw Roulette. He tells Stratus she will be in another paddle on a pole match. She rolls her eyes, so he spins the wheel again and lands on "Bra & Panties". She's further upset, so he makes it a title match. This is the first time the WWE Universe suggests perhaps this match is undignified for the competitors. Stratus removes Kiebler's hot pants and is declared a winner, and briefly paddles Kielber before Victoria runs in and does an extended beatdown, without the paddle. February 20, 2003 (Smackdown) (Nidia d. Torrie Wilson) Wilson has been getting courted by both Hugh Hefner and the Girls Gone Wild producers to appear nude in their products. Both Dawn Marie and Nidia are upset at not being given the same opportunity, and attack her on previous Smackdowns. This leads implicitly to a Paddle on a Pole match, which features interference from both Jamie Noble and Dawn Marie, giving Wilson another loss. Noble Smackdown Reporter Funaki saves Wilson from being spanked after the match. The payoff to the angle is that Wilson appears in Playboy, and Dawn Marie fucks her father to death in retaliation. August 28, 2006 (Raw) (Candace Michelle d. Torrie Wilson) No real set-up for this one either. Wilson looks to have the match won when she goes for a "Stinkface" in the corner and Michelle counters by "biting her in the butt". This takes out Wilson, allowing Michelle to retrieve the paddle and win. In a twist, Michelle reveals she is wearing "SPANK ME" underwear, and the two competitors take turns spanking each other. They then embrace. I believe Wilson and Michelle eventually feud over who gets to appear in Playboy. So anyway, very little justification for most of the matches other than Vince or someone else backstage believing it to be a good idea. It also shows that even in low-stakes titillation matches, WWE is not afraid to completely ignore stipulations the majority of the time.
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Julio Cruz posted:Torrie Wilson didn't join WWE until after WCW folded, so no it wasn't Russo But she did wrestle in WCW when Russo was booker, including a match against Tygress on an Australian tour billed as a "Down Underwear" match.
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May 2, 2020 18:29
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Dell_Zincht posted:Hacksaw Jim Duggan won the very first Royal Rumble and is a WWE Hall of Famer, yet never won a title in WWE. How dare you forget about King Duggan
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I stopped watching TNA pretty shortly after Hogan got here, but Sting was cool in TNA from the time between his arrival and Hogan's. The top of the card was like, Sting, Jarrett, Angle, and Christian. Jarrett kinda sucks but the rest made for a decently fun alternative product. Then Hogan showed up.
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Julio Cruz posted:Jake Roberts is another one Yeah, it's really strange that Jake never got ANY title at all in any of his runs in major promotions. He got a few midcard titles in like, Smoky Mountain and Mid-South, but I think the closest he ever got to a recognizable title run was the NWA TV title, and even that was just whatever version they had of it in Georgia at the time. MorrisBae posted:How dare you forget about King Duggan
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sticklefifer posted:Yeah, it's really strange that Jake never got ANY title at all in any of his runs in major promotions. He got a few midcard titles in like, Smoky Mountain and Mid-South, but I think the closest he ever got to a recognizable title run was the NWA TV title, and even that was just whatever version they had of it in Georgia at the time. Except he did. Georgia and Mid South were major promotions and he held the National Title in Mid South briefly. He held the TV title in Georgia. He didn't win titles in the WWF where titles rarely changed hands and it didn't really make sense for him to be World Champion and there was no real need for him to hold the IC title.
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Yeah, Georgia and Mid-South being minor promotions is WWE revisionist bullshit at it's finest.
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Randaconda posted:Yeah, Georgia and Mid-South being minor promotions is WWE revisionist bullshit at it's finest. Yeah, when you held the TV Title in Georgia there was no TV title "higher" than that. It was the TV title. Yes there was one in Mid Atlantic, but it's the same deal, it was their TV title. It'd be no different than holding the TNT title in AEW.
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MassRafTer posted:Yeah, when you held the TV Title in Georgia there was no TV title "higher" than that. It was the TV title. Yes there was one in Mid Atlantic, but it's the same deal, it was their TV title. It'd be no different than holding the TNT title in AEW. He was also the heavyweight champ in SMW, they may have been regional but it's still the top belt
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El Gallinero Gros posted:He was also the heavyweight champ in SMW, they may have been regional but it's still the top belt Hell, it was outdrawing WCW sometimes
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What episode/PPV of TNA was the one that the "Sting takes off Sting mask" On? (The RVD one)
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Did Scot Hall ever hold aworld title?
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Breitbart Is Rightbart posted:Did Scot Hall ever hold aworld title? He held the USWA World Heavyweight Championship for 28 days if that counts, but WCW/WWF/E? No.
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For a guy who's been around as long as he has, it's super weird that Scott Hall has fewer Royal Rumble appearances than Fake Razor Ramon
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Benne posted:For a guy who's been around as long as he has, it's super weird that Scott Hall has fewer Royal Rumble appearances than Fake Razor Ramon Honestly the fact that the nWo were basically booking WCW i'm surprised he didn't get a few World Title runs out of it
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how could someone get a world title reign out from under hulk hogan and kevin nash within just a few years? you'd have to be some kind of golden god. like an iceberg to the titanic
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Dell_Zincht posted:Honestly the fact that the nWo were basically booking WCW i'm surprised he didn't get a few World Title runs out of it Till Starrcade 97 Hogan was the best choice to have the belt so no room for Hall to have the strap and after that it was pretty clear that Scott's problem with alcohol were so bad that you really couldn't trust him even with a short vanity run
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SatoshiMiwa posted:Till Starrcade 97 Hogan was the best choice to have the belt so no room for Hall to have the strap and after that it was pretty clear that Scott's problem with alcohol were so bad that you really couldn't trust him even with a short vanity run One of my favorite WCW incompetence stories is they wanted to fire Hall for all the no shows and problems in 2000, but wanted to wait until after a world title match he was in. But before they could fire him he got badly injured so they had to wait 6 months to avoid a lawsuit.
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Wasn't that around the time his (ex?) wife Dana wrote an open letter begging management to stop booking Scott until he could at least get sober?
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Thea Vidale claimed in an interview that she was often sexually harassed while working in WWE (as Shelton Benjamin's mom). Did anything ever come of this, or was it ever clarified who this was? Link: https://www.inquisitr.com/1571041/wwe-news-shelton-benjamins-mom-claims-she-was-sexually-harassed-while-working-in-wwe/ The article's page is ad-crammed and awful, so here are the important quotes: quote:I genuinely hated that place. While I was there I was sexually harassed everyday by a perverted middle aged man that didn’t understand what no meant. It and many other articles online reference an interview with Neal Morgan, which is nowhere to be found.
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On some basic level I've always appreciated that thing where like when indie (or WCW or TNA) wrestlers get to WWE and they're like "Woah, its so organized and professional" and then when people from outside the industry get into WWE and they're like "Oh my loving god, its such a toxic incompetent cesspool." It really sums up the wrestling business and its place in society.
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Who has it better (not including $money-wise$), real carnies or wrestling carnies? https://www.urbo.com/content/carnies-reveal-their-lives-not-all-fun-and-games/ I've always said someone should make a movie/series called the Last Carny about Vince McMahon Carnies: Don't have to pay for travel, arranged for them, No Healthcare, Lots of addicts, Wellness Checks, Dangerous Workplace, Prolly make more than NXT/PC Performers Wrestlers: Pay for travel (but reimbursed), usually arranged yourself, Lots of addicts, No Healthcare, Wellness Checks, Dangerous Workplace, working for a crazy man Hirez fucked around with this message at 19:18 on May 3, 2020 |
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Putting aside that no one outside wrestling gives Vince a second of thought, I think anyone who tried to do an accurate biopic or something would get sued up the rear end by WWE. They're saving it all for that absurd biopic they release after Vince dies that pains him as such a hero and great man (all leading up to Steph's political run). And the counter is gonna be a 2 part episode of that Vice series, maybe a 30 for 30, and probably another recurring lawsuit gag for John Oliver.
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The day after Vince dies, Dave Meltzer's book will be released and he'll disappear forever to a castle made out of gold bricks
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DeathChicken posted:The day after Vince dies, Dave Meltzer's book will be released and he'll disappear forever to a castle made out of gold bricks Can it be accessed via gold boat
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In the first episode of Lucha Underground, they show Dario Cueto at Triplemania XXII offering a briefcase full of money to a bunch of the wrestlers on their roster if they'd jump ship to his new promotion. But I went back and watched that Triplemania and that segment was nowhere to be found. Was that a dark segment filmed just for the LU pilot episode, or did that actually air during the live broadcast and was cut out later?
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Kane should have won at WM14, or am I just dumb
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