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Vince MechMahon posted:No I can't agree with this. Violence is often not only necessary but good, especially in politics. This country lost its way when we made it illegal to bring your cane into Congress. i mean thats a funny analogy but you do remember why that dude beat that other dude with a cane right if you don't it was because the dude who got caned wanted to abolish slavery
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If the translation is accurate in Instagram, someone came into Suzuki's shop with this photo of him as a kid and he had no idea who it was until he realized it was an old childhood friend from 45 years ago. He still looks like he's about to beat someone's rear end. https://www.instagram.com/p/CFwpNHYgk5l/?igshid=iwah3zhheic2
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Sep 30, 2020 19:51
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ICR posted:First off, love this. Are we allowed to debate this list because I got Issues with this list (why are tag teams put together as one, why not just have a separate tagteam list. why is tony deppen below any of the people on the list above him)
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Sep 30, 2020 19:56
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Ganso Bomb posted:I don't know when it stopped being an issue for me, but having "weird arms" was never anything anyone made fun of me for or even brought up, it was all just invented in my own brain. Body issues are loving weird! They really are! I feel like non-WWE wrestling in general has become more body-positive in recent years, and I'm for it.
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Sep 30, 2020 19:58
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Ben Carter number 1 but I'm extremely certain AEW is in traction to lock him up ASAP. They could probably get WARHORSE quite easily given their connection to him now and how well he's received.
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Sep 30, 2020 20:09
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DLC Inc posted:Ben Carter number 1 but I'm extremely certain AEW is in traction to lock him up ASAP. They could probably get WARHORSE quite easily given their connection to him now and how well he's received. I think Ben is probably WWE bound if I'm being honest.
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Sep 30, 2020 20:12
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Tato posted:Ms. Marvel's comic sold 13,116 copies in January. Even the best selling comics (which are typically re-launched #1s and poo poo) strain to sell even 6 figures a month and rapidly plummet, causing them to relaunch over and over. Ms. Marvel has certainly sold a fair amount of graphic novels (even though Scholastic and book fairs) so I can see some younger folks being familiar with her, but also understand why most people would think she was made up. Marvel has done a lot of pushing the last 5 years making her more visible, but it's a very niche audience I guess Mr. Cage is not a part of. Cage complaining about Ms. Marvel just makes me think of years back when people were annoyed that Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3 threw in that obscure talking raccoon character that Marvel was supposedly about to make a space movie out of that was absolutely going to bomb. And Triple H nodded along with that.
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Sep 30, 2020 20:24
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i thought ms marvel was just the comic version of captain marvel after captain marvel became shazam
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Sep 30, 2020 20:31
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Pylons posted:I think Ben is probably WWE bound if I'm being honest. 
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Sep 30, 2020 20:32
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JOHN CENA posted:i thought ms marvel was just the comic version of captain marvel after captain marvel became shazam Isn't Shazam a DC property?
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Sep 30, 2020 20:33
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Pylons posted:Isn't Shazam a DC property? Shazam was originally called Captain Marvel too. Two completely different IPs owned by different companies.
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Sep 30, 2020 20:35
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Hoss Corncave posted:Shazam was originally called Captain Marvel too. Two completely different IPs owned by different companies. The gently caress
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Sep 30, 2020 20:37
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Pylons posted:The gently caress DC sued into bankruptcy Fawcett Comics who published Captain Marvel because it was outselling Superman in the 40s and 50s? DC acquired Fawcett but let the trademark on "Captain Marvel" lapse in the late 60s because no one was paying attention. Marvel noticed this and jumped to make their own Captain Marvel series. Ms. Marvel was a spinoff out of those stories.
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Sep 30, 2020 20:44
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Pylons posted:The gently caress the worst part is that the Shazam Captain Marvel was originally owned by a third company that one of the two companies you're thinking about basically legally harassed out of business because they didn't like that they were being beaten at their own game. DC ended up owning the character but never really locked down the name, Marvel eventually grabbed the name but not the character, and it was all very stupid
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Sep 30, 2020 20:45
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smikey posted:DC sued into bankruptcy Fawcett Comics who published Captain Marvel because it was outselling Superman in the 40s and 50s? DC acquired Fawcett but let the trademark on "Captain Marvel" lapse in the late 60s because no one was paying attention. Marvel noticed this and jumped to make their own Captain Marvel series. Ms. Marvel was a spinoff out of those stories. To make this even more confusing after Marvel's Captain Marvel died Ms Marvel ended up becoming Captain Marvel and then Kamala became the new Ms Marvel so there are three Captain Marvels but only two are Marvel Captain Marvels and there are two Ms Marvels both of which are Marvel's and then there is also DC's Shazam who was formerly DC's Captain Marvel who you can check out if you miss Marvel's first Captain Marvel
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Sep 30, 2020 20:50
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The history of literally every comic book company across the world having their own pastiche of Captain Marvel is beautiful and intricate like a mandala painting.
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Sep 30, 2020 20:50
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now lets talk about Hawkman
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Rarity posted:To make this even more confusing after Marvel's Captain Marvel died Ms Marvel ended up becoming Captain Marvel and then Kamala became the new Ms Marvel so there are three Captain Marvels but only two are Marvel Captain Marvels and there are two Ms Marvels both of which are Marvel's and then there is also DC's Shazam who was formerly DC's Captain Marvel who you can check out if you miss Marvel's first Captain Marvel You're forgetting Monica Rambeau's run as Captain Marvel in the early 80s to mid 90s. And the several times the original Captain Marvel or a genetic clone/parallel universe version has gone by that name. Perpetually ongoing capes and spandex comics are the worst. edit: Alaois posted:now lets talk about Hawkman smikey fucked around with this message at 20:53 on Sep 30, 2020 |
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Sep 30, 2020 20:51
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Alaois posted:now lets talk about Hawkman Has that character ever had a good run?
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Alaois posted:now lets talk about Hawkman When the Injustice game came out, I did these posts in the fighting games thread to explain the comic book characters to people who didn't read comics. There was nothing I could do to make Hawkman not sound like the most confusing poo poo ever no matter how hard I tried.
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Gavok posted:When the Injustice game came out, I did these posts in the fighting games thread to explain the comic book characters to people who didn't read comics. even the DC wiki doesn't try to hide it
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Hoss Corncave posted:Shazam was originally called Captain Marvel too. Two completely different IPs owned by different companies. This is why nobody reads comics
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https://twitter.com/DaveBautista/status/1311380575098413062
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Sep 30, 2020 21:02
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Pylons posted:I think Ben is probably WWE bound if I'm being honest. Is this based on anything besides idle speculation and that he went to Seth Rollins’s school?
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Sep 30, 2020 21:05
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Lead Pipe Cinch posted:Is this based on anything besides idle speculation and that he went to Seth Rollins’s school? From what I heard AEW has offered him a contract (and been trying to push him to sign it) so I think there's a reason he hasn't. Maybe he still wants to work the indies, but I would guess WWE is trying to sign him.
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Sep 30, 2020 21:08
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Pylons posted:From what I heard AEW has offered him a contract (and been trying to push him to sign it) so I think there's a reason he hasn't. Maybe he still wants to work the indies, but I would guess WWE is trying to sign him. Maybe he’s not ready to do big league shows like Late Night Dynamite and Dark and feels more comfortable on 205 Live and Main Event that are watched by hundreds
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He certainly looked comfortable on AEW.
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Pylons posted:From what I heard AEW has offered him a contract (and been trying to push him to sign it) so I think there's a reason he hasn't. Maybe he still wants to work the indies, but I would guess WWE is trying to sign him. Hoping it’s just because of covid right now and he just wants to be of sound mind here. He has to know what will happen to him if he goes to WWE but yeah, Rollins could absolutely be doing a “don’t you dare go there” and halting it. I could see it happen. Who knows with that behind the scenes stuff. It’s a petty game!
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Maybe Rollins promised him he can be Buddy Murphy #2 and Ben is just hyped as gently caress to be a follower of the monday night messiah If someone that young goes to WWE signing the five years 80k a year contract they have da brain worms and there's no saving them from Main Event. Even if he plans to go to WWE there's zero reason to go now.
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On a social media standpoint, he posts super positively about his AEW experience, his exposure and wrestling for them. I think that also somewhat backfires though because just like with Kingston, all of a sudden WWE comes sniffing at them. And Santana/Ortiz and well, they want you only because they don’t want you in the competition. Ya know, especially reading HHH’s call today where he said he was happy on Wednesdays and the “other company” should move, not us.
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Carter is apparently one of those WWE Is The Dream guys. Don't get your hopes up.
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Rarity posted:To make this even more confusing after Marvel's Captain Marvel died Ms Marvel ended up becoming Captain Marvel and then Kamala became the new Ms Marvel so there are three Captain Marvels but only two are Marvel Captain Marvels and there are two Ms Marvels both of which are Marvel's and then there is also DC's Shazam who was formerly DC's Captain Marvel who you can check out if you miss Marvel's first Captain Marvel Now if you really want the logic twisting on this you need to look at Miracleman. A continuation of a discontinued British reprint of the Fawcett Captain Marvel until they were shut down by a lawsuit from DC Comics, radically reimagined by Alan Moore in the early 80s, taken over by Neil Gaiman in the late 80s, forced to change its name by a threat of legal action from Marvel Comics, left in publication hell by several competing claims of ownership, supposedly bought by Todd McFarlane although not really apart from being used in a single issue of Spawn, subject of a lawsuit with rights restored to Neil Gaiman, and then published in reprints by Marvel Comics in the 2010s. I can no longer remember what this had to do with wrestling.
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Lamuella posted:Now if you really want the logic twisting on this you need to look at Miracleman. A continuation of a discontinued British reprint of the Fawcett Captain Marvel until they were shut down by a lawsuit from DC Comics, radically reimagined by Alan Moore in the early 80s, taken over by Neil Gaiman in the late 80s, forced to change its name by a threat of legal action from Marvel Comics, left in publication hell by several competing claims of ownership, supposedly bought by Todd McFarlane although not really apart from being used in a single issue of Spawn, subject of a lawsuit with rights restored to Neil Gaiman, and then published in reprints by Marvel Comics in the 2010s. still more straightforward than Kane and Undertaker
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Sep 30, 2020 21:49
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Alaois posted:i mean thats a funny analogy but you do remember why that dude beat that other dude with a cane right Yeah and instead of pulling out his own cane he instead got canes banned and we just had slavery until there was a war over it. We gotta be willing to look at the canes wielded by the Andrew Jackson's of the world, and be ready to meet them on the field of battle with our own canes.
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MJeff posted:Carter is apparently one of those WWE Is The Dream guys. Don't get your hopes up. I think it’ll happen too. Just gotta say you were there. Hell, I do it for things. I was there on day one when Guardians of the Galaxy came out and hit the theatres. I was there. I also was at Buffalo Wild Wings the first day it came to Saginaw, Michigan. It was a dream to be one of the first to eat it.
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ICR posted:He has to know what will happen to him if he goes to WWE but yeah, Rollins could absolutely be doing a “don’t you dare go there” and halting it. I could see it happen. The idea that "I trained you, therefore I perpetually own you" mentality is normal and not warped is just another indicator of how much wrestling as an industry is broken to the degree that it's beyond hosed.
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Sep 30, 2020 21:52
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I was right to call Ben Carter "Ben Carson"
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ICR posted:I think it’ll happen too. Just gotta say you were there. I was part of the second table to eat at the Brick Town, NJ BWW the night it opened
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