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History Comes Inside!
Nov 20, 2004




Pulcinella posted:

What does that have to do with startup load times?

If starting the game involves connecting to an online service (because you chose to start it specifically via a “join online game” option, perhaps) then it potentially has everything to do with it because it’s part of the startup?

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Fedule
Mar 27, 2010


No one left uncured.
I got you.

Heavy Metal posted:

On TV talk, I'll say at the moment I'm not itching for HDR. The talk about how it needs to be really bright to look good etc, that's the opposite of my preference. I keep my TV at 50% brightness and backlight, lower sometimes on PC. I take eye comfort and maybe better sleep over this fancy HDR business.

I also keep it on normal (medium) color, even though reference stuff for video tends to be ice cold.

Cool to see the book talk here and in the Cyberpunk topic, I'm still looking to read Burning Chrome and Neuromancer before that game is out next month.

HDR doesn't - practically speaking - need to be really bright to work. What it needs is very high contrast. On most TVs, you get high contrast by cranking the backlight while using local dimming to turn it off in other parts of the panel, making them closer to black. If your TV has good enough local dimming, or is an OLED, you can get all the goodness of HDR without coming out of the 4-500 nit zone for most of most scenes (HDR is particularly about being able to show bright lights and dark shadows, not necessarily doing it all the time).

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
My parents have a 4K HDR LG and it’s slow as hell. As someone who uses the built-in smart TV apps over a Fire Stick/Roku/etc, I couldn’t handle that.

Heavy Metal
Sep 1, 2014

America's $1 Funnyman

fappenmeister posted:

The opening sentence of Neuromancer is one that still sticks with me all these years later.

"The sky above the port was the color of television, tuned to a dead channel"

Cool stuff.

Fedule posted:

HDR doesn't - practically speaking - need to be really bright to work. What it needs is very high contrast. On most TVs, you get high contrast by cranking the backlight while using local dimming to turn it off in other parts of the panel, making them closer to black. If your TV has good enough local dimming, or is an OLED, you can get all the goodness of HDR without coming out of the 4-500 nit zone for most of most scenes (HDR is particularly about being able to show bright lights and dark shadows, not necessarily doing it all the time).

Interesting, I can dig. I've read some stuff about not wanting to mess with brightness settings much in HDR mode. I'm not well versed in it, just sounds like it might not be my thing if I can't lower it to my liking. But if it still looks a bit better than before anyway, that's something.

UnfortunateSexFart
May 18, 2008

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fappenmeister posted:

I have looked at the LG OLEDs in the last few months, but budget was a major factor in the choice I suppose. The LGs cost around AUD$1000 extra last I checked, and the Sony is a bedroom TV for now. I know burn-in isn't a huge deal these days, but also something I didn't want to think about. Definitely something I'm going to look into again when I buy my own place, keen on hooking up my PC to a big screen.

Yeah I went with a B8 rather than the newest model due to stupid Aussie prices but now kinda regret not getting 2.1 hdmi compatibility.

UnfortunateSexFart
May 18, 2008

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Escobarbarian posted:

My parents have a 4K HDR LG and it’s slow as hell. As someone who uses the built-in smart TV apps over a Fire Stick/Roku/etc, I couldn’t handle that.

The UI is slow? Generally LG is considered to have the best UI as well. Maybe they have a mid ranger model? The praise is usually reserved for the C or maybe B lines.

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




UnfortunateSexFart posted:

Yeah I went with a B8 rather than the newest model due to stupid Aussie prices but now kinda regret not getting 2.1 hdmi compatibility.

2.1 isn't going to be worth the upgrade this gen imo. the best balance of performance and gfx modes on these consoles is not going ever be 4k 120 fps for more than a few games.

UnfortunateSexFart
May 18, 2008

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Real hurthling! posted:

2.1 isn't going to be worth the upgrade this gen imo. the best balance of performance and gfx modes on these consoles is not going ever be 4k 120 fps for more than a few games.

I play RS Siege a lot and it's confirmed 120hz so that alone makes it tempting.

Bad Parenting
Mar 26, 2007

This could get emotional...


Heavy Metal posted:

Cool to see the book talk here and in the Cyberpunk topic, I'm still looking to read Burning Chrome and Neuromancer before that game is out next month.

You should read Hardwired by Walter Jon Williams, it's a really fun book, one of the first written in the genre

Heavy Metal
Sep 1, 2014

America's $1 Funnyman

Will do!

I'll throw in a random rec, A Stainless Steel Rat Is Born. Fun sci-fi thief story from the 80s, origin story to pulpy series from back in the day.

Fix
Jul 26, 2005

NEWT THE MOON

Heavy Metal posted:

Will do!

I'll throw in a random rec, A Stainless Steel Rat Is Born. Fun sci-fi thief story from the 80s, origin story to pulpy series from back in the day.

That's a fun series.

Policenaut
Jul 11, 2008

On the moon... they don't make Neo Kobe Pizza.

Sony explained what's going on with that new voice chat thing you might be hearing about.

Summary:
- PS5 and PS4 players can talk to each other (that's why the warning appeared on PS4).
- PS5 voice chat is always recording the past five minutes of said voice chat.
- If you file a harassment report, you can include an offending voice clip of that voice chat in your report (20 seconds of the offending incident, 10 seconds before and after).
- Reports are filed directly through the PS5 console and reviewed by a moderation staff.

Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010

Policenaut posted:

- PS5 voice chat is always recording the past five minutes of said voice chat.

Gross

LIVE AMMO COSPLAY
Feb 3, 2006

Fix posted:

That's a fun series.

I wouldn't really call it cyberpunk tho.

Storm One
Jan 12, 2011

Fedule posted:

HDR doesn't - practically speaking - need to be really bright to work. What it needs is very high contrast.

This, the average brightness of a good HDR picture should be the same as SDR. Peak brightness should only affect highlights in a very small percentage of total picture area.

If it's too bright then it's the opposite of high dynamic range, same as loudness war hyper-compressed music.

Rad Valtar
May 31, 2011

Someday coach Im going to throw for 6 TDs in the Super Bowl.

Sit your ass down Steve.
Anything that lets me turn in Nazis easier is a-ok with me.

imhotep
Nov 16, 2009

REDBAR INTENSIFIES

fappenmeister posted:

The opening sentence of Neuromancer is one that still sticks with me all these years later.

"The sky above the port was the color of television, tuned to a dead channel"

So, bright blue??

Also lol, these were my first thoughts as well, but I didnt care about whether it was ‘cyberpunk enough’, just don’t like the aesthetic.

imhotep fucked around with this message at 01:22 on Oct 17, 2020

fappenmeister
Nov 19, 2004

My hand wields the might

Imhotep posted:

So, bright blue??

With a bouncing DVD player logo.

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




Rad Valtar posted:

Anything that lets me turn in Nazis easier is a-ok with me.

they probably get 40 billion bullying complaints per day and now they'll have the proof to get kids grounded by mom when she calls to find out why the account is suspended

Policenaut
Jul 11, 2008

On the moon... they don't make Neo Kobe Pizza.

I'm still sad whywasibanned.com fell off the internet.

Housh
Jul 9, 2001




Oooo do I get a 900h or go for the CX?? I hate making decisions.

Heavy Metal
Sep 1, 2014

America's $1 Funnyman

LIVE AMMO COSPLAY posted:

I wouldn't really call it cyberpunk tho.

I said it was a random rec! Diplomatic immunity.

Happy Hedonist
Jan 18, 2009



:hmmyes:

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal

fappenmeister posted:

With a bouncing DVD player logo.

A gigantic NO SIGNAL hanging above Chiba City

Policenaut
Jul 11, 2008

On the moon... they don't make Neo Kobe Pizza.

They never quite figure out how to configure HDR and they didn't turn off the ambient screen brightness so every time a cloud passes by the sun the entire city turns dark but when it's a full moon it turns back into day.

el oso
Feb 18, 2005

phew, for a minute there i lost myself
Thinking I need to get a new haircut so I can game properly on the PS5. What haircut can I get to be my ultimate gamer?

Dewgy
Nov 10, 2005

~🚚special delivery~📦

el oso posted:

Thinking I need to get a new haircut so I can game properly on the PS5. What haircut can I get to be my ultimate gamer?

Classic 90s rat-tail.

Heavy Metal
Sep 1, 2014

America's $1 Funnyman

MGS2 mullet.

bowmore
Oct 6, 2008



Lipstick Apathy

Heavy Metal posted:

MGS2 mullet.

fappenmeister
Nov 19, 2004

My hand wields the might

Shaved head with the long fringe brushed back over the top.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

Local storage and voluntary submission is fine, and this is the appropriate use-case for it. It's when you get "oh we're always streaming the last x minutes to our servers for Q/A" that you need to raise an eyebrow about privacy.


el oso posted:

Thinking I need to get a new haircut so I can game properly on the PS5. What haircut can I get to be my ultimate gamer?

Big bushy muttonchops and an inverse mullet.

BeanpolePeckerwood
May 4, 2004

I MAY LOOK LIKE SHIT BUT IM ALSO DUMB AS FUCK



haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal
Ehh, if it's local and user-controlled it's not that gross. The PS4 and One are already recording all your gameplay all the time and no one minds.

BeanpolePeckerwood
May 4, 2004

I MAY LOOK LIKE SHIT BUT IM ALSO DUMB AS FUCK



haveblue posted:

Ehh, if it's local and user-controlled it's not that gross. The PS4 and One are already recording all your gameplay all the time and no one minds.

PS4 only records 1 minute of my gameplay, per my settings. and I can set it specifically to not record my voice in chats, or let others record my voice in their chats.



So this is a marked privacy change, and I'm happy to call it out as hosed up surveilance creep.

MechaSeinfeld
Jan 2, 2008


need to know how well pornhub will function on next gen consoles has digital foundry done that yet

hamsystem
Nov 11, 2010

Fuzzy pickles!

Housh posted:

Oooo do I get a 900h or go for the CX?? I hate making decisions.

If you can afford it then the CX all day. That being said, I got a 900h because I have no patience and the price was right. I have it sitting next to an LG OLED we bought a few years ago and the picture is pretty drat good in the side by side. Obviously it doesn't have that beautiful pure black contrast of the OLED but the colors are still very vibrant and playing games on it feels super smooth.

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




Ghosts horde mode owns

Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010

MechaSeinfeld posted:

need to know how well forums.somethingawful.com will function on next gen consoles has digital foundry done that yet

Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010

Who is the legend goon who accesses this site through their PS4. I know BP uses the iPad terminals in the local museum to post here but there was definitely some dude using their PS4. What a hero.

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BeanpolePeckerwood
May 4, 2004

I MAY LOOK LIKE SHIT BUT IM ALSO DUMB AS FUCK



everytime the librarian walks by i have to minimize any open tabs with memes of making GBS threads dick nipples

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