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Ah I see, for some reason I thought Lost Hills was in some cold war with the NCR while the other chapters were in open war.
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It's one of those things that has cool far-reaching effects which are unfortunately not really discussed in the game. Like, the NCR-BOS war is the reason you use caps in the game- the conflict devalued the NCR dollar, which allowed the water merchants of the Hub to reintroduce caps as a viable currency, which I'd love if someone in the game talked about that but I only know about it because the guy who came up with it posts here E: oh speaking of which: https://twitter.com/jesawyer/status/1319755496702627841?s=19 2house2fly fucked around with this message at 22:40 on Oct 23, 2020 |
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its all fun and games for your isolationist militant technomonk faction until california starts making their own laser toys and reinventing things called "borders"
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Berke Negri posted:its all fun and games for your isolationist militant technomonk faction until california starts making their own laser toys and reinventing things called "borders" On that thought, I dislike how overrated power armor and energy weapons are by some fans. Fallout is an intensely pulpy setting and does not run on the realism that "the guys with guns beat everybody." The strongest enemy in New Vegas is a big guy with a makeshift sword who, if YT videos are correct, can defeat many people who are armed with guns. (I don't think Lanius is the absolute strongest character in the main game but he's up there)
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The strongest enemy in New Vegas is either an overgrown fly or an overgrown chameleon. Lanius is pretty strong though. But my money is on the genetically engineered chameleon.
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The Brotherhood being so stuck in their ways makes them a nice foil to the Boomers, who recognize that they can't stay stagnant and isolationist forever and wants to let in a bit of the outside world.Arcsquad12 posted:No you just get sent to retrieve ID tags from an artillery field, a radioactive super mutant enclave and a robot filled office building. Then they send you to a series of death trap vaults that the head knight admits has already killed several brotherhood members. Then they send you back to the radioactive mutant enclave to bug a radio tower. Everything they do either benefits them or gets you killed, win win for the dicks in power armour. Or if you install Hardin in power, he sends you off against the Van Graffs, who are said to be able to field their own small army. That last quest for Hardin or Mcnamara really gives off the strong impression that after helping them cover up their gently caress-up/put them into power, they consider you a loose end that need to be silenced. Berke Negri posted:its all fun and games for your isolationist militant technomonk faction until california starts making their own laser toys and reinventing things called "borders" Yeah, this is the impression I got as well. The Brotherhood didn't have a problem with the NCR until they started expanding a lot and started getting their hands on Pre-War tech from the lands they're annexed. And when the NCR didn't back down, it's the Brotherhood who started a war with them.
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2house2fly posted:It's one of those things that has cool far-reaching effects which are unfortunately not really discussed in the game. Like, the NCR-BOS war is the reason you use caps in the game- the conflict devalued the NCR dollar, which allowed the water merchants of the Hub to reintroduce caps as a viable currency, which I'd love if someone in the game talked about that but I only know about it because the guy who came up with it posts here I’m pretty sure it is talked about a bit in game. I think either by Chomps at Sloan or Alice at Crimson Caravan.
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i believe in Sloan the head foreman mentions that NCR dollars aren't worth much in the mojave, though I don't think its pointed out that this is because NCR money is now fiat money because the BoS basically destroyed all of the NCRs gold reserve creating a monetary panic in the NCR and driving up inflation (i think this is mostly covered in ropekid's posts over the years and not ingame)
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The decline of the Brotherhood of Steel is a sad story, but it's more a sad story of bad decisions and constantly unfulfilled potential. Even if you set them towards a better path, I think they still have their obsession with keeping all technology for themselves. It's not hard to imagine them going back to their old ways after a generation. House was right.
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Berke Negri posted:i believe in Sloan the head foreman mentions that NCR dollars aren't worth much in the mojave, though I don't think its pointed out that this is because NCR money is now fiat money because the BoS basically destroyed all of the NCRs gold reserve creating a monetary panic in the NCR and driving up inflation (i think this is mostly covered in ropekid's posts over the years and not ingame) I vaguely recall that the Brotherhood somehow managed to irradiate NCR's gold reserves but don't know if that was mentioned in-game or if it's supplemental lore somewhere.
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moot the hopple posted:I vaguely recall that the Brotherhood somehow managed to irradiate NCR's gold reserves but don't know if that was mentioned in-game or if it's supplemental lore somewhere. Loading screens. 80% of the scrapped Van Buren plots happened in loading screens. Just like how so much of the Sierra Madre's backstory ended up in loading screens.
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oh jay posted:Loading screens. 80% of the scrapped Van Buren plots happened in loading screens. Hmmm. TES presents much of the world's through books. I guess Fallout has story tellers who recite a bit of oral history as it relates to their faction. Even the pre-war stories you stumble upon are heavily flavored by the paranoia and secrecy of that age. After saving the world (again), it never seems like you've really changed anything in TES games. Makes sense, as that world is very old. In Fallout, the overall timeline is far shorter so it feels like the player's story is much more important to the world at large. I'm probably missing a bunch of backstory, as Morrowind and F3 were my first forays into those stories. Whatever, each playthrough I learn something new. New Vegas especially is like reading your favorite book every year and discovering a new, interesting facet each time.
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I think what really makes New Vegas shine is that it isn't "saving the world". It's coming to a complicated political conflict and helping a side to triumph after hours of seeing the consequences of each side's actions, and you can really believe at the end that the final choice will change everything.
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Wicked Them Beats posted:https://twitter.com/jesawyer/status/1319755496702627841?s=20 lol, he really underestimated his goals here. Hit the 3.5k goal before actually starting the game.
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Oct 24, 2020 18:17
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Garrand posted:lol, he really underestimated his goals here. Hit the 3.5k goal before actually starting the game. You'd think he would have learned after the response to their kickstarter
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Psion posted:it is your fault I just had to hear a stairs in your house reference on a stream in 2020, and I want to memorialize this for everyone else A blast from the past And Josh is playing Caravan now
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Planets must be aligning, because I was thinking about picking up the game again, but I lost track of where I was with the Viva New Vegas guide. Also, Josh just gave a calllout to SA and the thread a few minutes ago.
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Wicked Them Beats posted:A blast from the past I like how he won without realizing what the win conditions were that's absolutely the most authentic Caravan experience for me when I played it
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Apparently not being able to tell Veronica about Christine was NOT an aesthetic choice but a technical one!
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Wait what'd he say on stream? I'm working but I've always wondered why you can't tell Christine about veronica.
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Gaius Marius posted:Wait what'd he say on stream? I'm working but I've always wondered why you can't tell Christine about veronica. It's hard to make .esm files talk to each other. Load order and all that.
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Just that, basically: someone asked why you couldn't tell Christine about Veronica and he said it was because it's hard for the DLC and main game to interact because of load orders and dependencies and such. And specified that it wasn't an aesthetic thing. I've always viewed it as a thing where the player was intended to draw a conclusion from putting together two things which they might never actually see which don't directly refer to each other (sort of a Kuleshov effect but with dialogue) so it was a surprise
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Psion posted:I like how he won without realizing what the win conditions were I love Caravan And this is very true
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Three patch giveaways and no win yet. I shouldn't have dumped my luck stat.
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oh jay posted:It's hard to make .esm files talk to each other. Load order and all that. 
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Raygereio posted:I think Ropekid was mixing up some stuff there. DLCs can't edit other DLCs due to loadorder. But the DLCs make edits to the base game without problem. Telling Veronica about Christine hinges on getting Felicia Day back just to record like 2 lines though. The Elijah lines were recorded ahead of time.
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CONFIRMED HUGE REVELATIONS from the stream: - There have been no discussions of an iso Fallout - Would he work on Fallout again? "Sure" - Varg Vikiernes or whatever his name is hates NV - Spanish is "easy to learn"
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Basic Chunnel posted:- Varg Vikiernes or whatever his name is hates NV Man, those murderous white supremacists can be so touchy.
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"I like to read Lad's Life while I'm sitting on the ol' toilet"
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What is the jsawyer.esp patch like? I know it disperses the DLC items around the wasteland, but all I know apart from that is that it makes the game harder. I ask because I want to continue with modding the game via the Viva New Vegas guide (and jsawyer.esp is listed, albeit with some tweaks) but I don't know if I want to make the game super-hard. I know I tweaked some things with the install already, since I asked about them on the Viva New Vegas Discord.
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Basic Chunnel posted:- Varg Vikiernes or whatever his name is hates NV Jeez how on earth did that come up?
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I wouldn't say it makes it super hard, but it makes the hardcore mode a lot more survival-like. Stimpacks are much less abundant, addictions are easier to come by and harder to get rid of, and sleeping on an empty stomach or dehydrated can kill you.
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Less Fat Luke posted:I wouldn't say it makes it super hard, but it makes the hardcore mode a lot more survival-like. Stimpacks are much less abundant, addictions are easier to come by and harder to get rid of, and sleeping on an empty stomach or dehydrated can kill you. I only played Hardcore mode once, and that was when I first got the game. I didn't care for it, and I enjoyed the game a lot more when I replayed it on the normal difficulty. Lima posted:Jeez how on earth did that come up? He was talking about a YouTube reviewer who covers guns (Forgotten Weapons, I think?), and he mentioned how said reviewer had killed someone. He had to clarify that it wasn't Varg he was talking about, and that the other person did so in self-defense. Max Wilco fucked around with this message at 22:23 on Oct 24, 2020 |
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It's funny now that I think about it, I don't actually know what the proper win conditions are of Caravan, but I do remember getting to a point where I never lost a game of it?
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Max Wilco posted:I only played Hardcore mode once, and that was when I first got the game. I didn't care for it, and I enjoyed the game a lot more when I replayed it on the normal difficulty. 
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