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LASER BEAM DREAM posted:I'm planning to dump my 1080TI soon. Am I going to have trouble selling on eBay if my account is fresh? Probably not. It'd get snapped up fast in the SA Mart, if you're willing to go that route.
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E2M2 posted:I don't get why you would pay like $300 for a 1660 Super when you can get a 3070 for $500. I mean stock is hosed right now, but poo poo. I mean, what use is an MSRP when your ability to buy the card is essentially based upon a lottery and a lot of luck? mA fucked around with this message at 21:26 on Feb 1, 2021 |
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Sorry to Kramer into a thread that seems to already be discussing my question, but I only look at hardware every five years or so. I'm replacing RAM and figured I'd upgrade my GTX 960 while I'm in there. - What the gently caress is going on with GPU prices? Crypto? Supply? COVID??? - When will it stop? The card isn't terrible (from my perspective), it's just beginning to show its age. Is there anything better below $250 in these crazy times? edit: I just looked up the price of my current card and it's $250-300, so I guess the answer is no. BrianRx fucked around with this message at 21:55 on Feb 1, 2021 |
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BrianRx posted:
No. $350 if you can get lucky.
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BrianRx posted:Sorry to Kramer into a thread that seems to already be discussing my question, but I only look at hardware every five years or so. I'm replacing RAM and figured I'd upgrade my GTX 960 while I'm in there. I gave up on trying to get a PS5 due to shortage issues and was like, "gently caress it, I'll just build a gaming pc instead." Welp. 
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BrianRx posted:- What the gently caress is going on with GPU prices? Crypto? Supply? COVID??? quote:- When will it stop?
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MarcusSA posted:No. uuuuuugggggghhhhhhh B B posted:I gave up on trying to get a PS5 due to shortage issues and was like, "gently caress it, I'll just build a gaming pc instead." WHY ARE THEY MAKING IT SO HARD TO BUY THINGS WE DON'T NEED
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repiv posted:Another look at where we stand with raytracing this console gen (and RDNA2 in general) Yeah that video was kinda sad. Even with checkboard rendering and the lowest of low settings. those AMD SOCs croak when you turn on RT features.
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MH Knights posted:I feel dumb for not getting rid of my EVGA 1070ti yet. I just took my 1080 TI out of storage to sell. I'm usually a hoarder-not-a-seller but this is just too insane not to sell.
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BrianRx posted:Sorry to Kramer into a thread that seems to already be discussing my question, but I only look at hardware every five years or so. I'm replacing RAM and figured I'd upgrade my GTX 960 while I'm in there. There's probably always going to be some sort of shortage when it comes to various PC components. GPUs have been the component getting hosed right now and it looks like it's a combination of bitcoin value going up, COVID purchasing, GDDR6 supply chain problems, and Trump tariffs (trade wars are easy  ). You can wait for bitcoin value to go down again, the new admin to remove tariffs, and/or nvidia/AMD to ramp up production in hopes that prices may come down some by the second half of the year.
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Germany is lobbying Taiwan to get TSMC to focus production on automotive chips in exchange for expedited vaccine deliveries, in case you haven't heard a more dystopian headline for the day. https://wccftech.com/tsmcs-chip-for-vaccine-swap-to-delay-integrated-circuit-chip-production/
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Inept posted:Not for at least several more months, but used prices will probably gradually go down as more people get vaccinated and it gets warmer out. Unless crypto explodes some more, in which case, hope that GTX 960 has a lifetime warranty. Additional waves of stimulus checks probably won't help. For a lot of people that money will be essential, but for a bunch of others it's just extra disposable income.
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Shipon posted:Germany is lobbying Taiwan to get TSMC to focus production on automotive chips in exchange for expedited vaccine deliveries, in case you haven't heard a more dystopian headline for the day. They should absolutely do this if it will save a single life, and at the same time, I am sad that I will probably never get a 3080.
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lol, Germany probably needs those vaccines more than Taiwan if you've been following the COVID news (or lack thereof) for the latter
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LASER BEAM DREAM posted:They should absolutely do this if it will save a single life it's not like that wouldn't come at the cost of potentially not saving other lives Rinkles fucked around with this message at 00:38 on Feb 2, 2021 |
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The 30-series is made by Samsung, not TSMC. The refresh that we're probably not going to see for 9-12/18 months will be made by TSMC. But, ~a rising tide lifts all boats~. 
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I just spent all day putting together my system and getting it running, the system is Ryzen 5600x, 3070 FE inside a Meshify C case. I do have two fans in the front for intake and three for exhaust (1 in the back and 2 up top), I mostly play World of Warcraft and Overwatch, the first thing I did once getting some drivers and stuff installed was let Geforce Experience set WoW settings to the recommended max and tried it out for a bit, should I be worried about max value CPU readings of around 72c, with the cpu cooler fan max value @ 1800 and GPU max value temp at 78c with both fans around 2300 rpm? (Have to also say I don't feel like I was 'pushing it', I tested this temp run out in a epic battleground) I feel like my 970 which was dusty as gently caress didn't reach these temps but the settings of course weren't maxed out and were much, much lower.
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iroguebot posted:I just spent all day putting together my system and getting it running, the system is Ryzen 5600x, 3070 FE inside a Meshify C case. I do have two fans in the front for intake and three for exhaust (1 in the back and 2 up top), I mostly play World of Warcraft and Overwatch, the first thing I did once getting some drivers and stuff installed was let Geforce Experience set WoW settings to the recommended max and tried it out for a bit, should I be worried about max value CPU readings of around 72c, with the cpu cooler fan max value @ 1800 and GPU max value temp at 78c with both fans around 2300 rpm? (Have to also say I don't feel like I was 'pushing it', I tested this temp run out in a epic battleground) Those all sounds pretty decent as temps go for these components - pretty sure my 3600 mazes out around 74 Celsius, and that's with a be quiet! Dark Rock 4 plopped on it with two fans. Thermal density at 7nm is very real. Undervolting may be worth a try for the 3070.
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shrike82 posted:PC-equivalent settings for Control on PS5 I feel like more console games would look (and run) nicer with AA disabled. That and motion blur seem to be the thing always on by default on console - and the game is usually worse for it. AA seemed to make more sense when I was playing at a resolution below 1080p, but at 1440p the jaggies aren’t too noticeable for me like they once were. Does that become less so at 4k?
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buglord posted:I feel like more console games would look (and run) nicer with AA disabled. That and motion blur seem to be the thing always on by default on console - and the game is usually worse for it. AA seemed to make more sense when I was playing at a resolution below 1080p, but at 1440p the jaggies aren’t too noticeable for me like they once were. Does that become less so at 4k? I think the forced motion blur is so console gamers don't pick up on how bad the graphics and framerate are.
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B B posted:I gave up on trying to get a PS5 due to shortage issues and was like, "gently caress it, I'll just build a gaming pc instead." I went the opposite way. I paid $500 for a 3070 and just traded it for a PS5 because PC gaming is way too expensive now. Plus I got way less time to gently caress around with configs. Easier to just buy 1 console and be set for like 8 years. Also I probably took an L because 3070s are selling for $750 now?
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buglord posted:I feel like more console games would look (and run) nicer with AA disabled. That and motion blur seem to be the thing always on by default on console - and the game is usually worse for it. AA seemed to make more sense when I was playing at a resolution below 1080p, but at 1440p the jaggies aren’t too noticeable for me like they once were. Does that become less so at 4k? Nope, AA is still as important than ever even at high resolution. Temporal aliasing is a big issue in IQ for overall image stability that isn't solved by more pixels. Temporal Aliasing is generally worse at higher resolution than lower resolution since temporal aliasing is an effect of not producing enough frames per second to smooth out the image. Many modern engines are also dependent on TAA being on for graphics to display properly, your average game engine is now is deferred rendering, which generates your image from multiple separate frames. You need a TAA solution to make that not look like poo poo in motion with pixel creeping and other anomalies. TAA softens the image, but game developers are getting better at fixing that with a post processing sharpening pass that cleans up the image.
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E2M2 posted:I went the opposite way. I paid $500 for a 3070 and just traded it for a PS5 because PC gaming is way too expensive now. Plus I got way less time to gently caress around with configs. Easier to just buy 1 console and be set for like 8 years.
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Finally an Ampere haver. drat, the 3090 is a chunky boy. I normally also give the hand-me-downs to Mrs. Slidebite, but due to this GPU craziness, I'll probably just sell the Evga 1080ti. Also, pleasantly surprised how quiet it is. At least as quiet, maybe even quieter than my 1080ti. And so far not a hint of coil whine at all. I have all 3 power leads on their own dedicated cable.
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Fauxtool posted:is that still a rumor? I thought it was pretty widely reported or was that intel and everyone is going to be using samsung now? NVidia is using Samsung for Ampere, but uses TSMC for its server/workstation GPUs. There was a rumor last year that they might want to use TSMC either for an Ampere refresh or to just expand capacity. Intel is using its own fabs, but will reportedly use TSMC for its later Xe GPUs AMD uses TSMC for just about everything (except i/o dies), but has an existing relationship with Samsung for mobile GPUs. This newest rumor would seem to indicate that they want to expand that relationship to other products.
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Beautiful Ninja posted:Nope, AA is still as important than ever even at high resolution. Temporal aliasing is a big issue in IQ for overall image stability that isn't solved by more pixels. Temporal Aliasing is generally worse at higher resolution than lower resolution since temporal aliasing is an effect of not producing enough frames per second to smooth out the image. Many modern engines are also dependent on TAA being on for graphics to display properly, your average game engine is now is deferred rendering, which generates your image from multiple separate frames. You need a TAA solution to make that not look like poo poo in motion with pixel creeping and other anomalies. TAA softens the image, but game developers are getting better at fixing that with a post processing sharpening pass that cleans up the image. TAA is also pretty cheap as far as antialiasing techniques go, so you don’t even gain that much performance from disabling it as you would for something like volumetric fog. In most modern games it’s just an invitation to make everything look worse for no reason.
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iroguebot posted:I just spent all day putting together my system and getting it running, the system is Ryzen 5600x, 3070 FE inside a Meshify C case. I do have two fans in the front for intake and three for exhaust (1 in the back and 2 up top), I mostly play World of Warcraft and Overwatch, the first thing I did once getting some drivers and stuff installed was let Geforce Experience set WoW settings to the recommended max and tried it out for a bit, should I be worried about max value CPU readings of around 72c, with the cpu cooler fan max value @ 1800 and GPU max value temp at 78c with both fans around 2300 rpm? (Have to also say I don't feel like I was 'pushing it', I tested this temp run out in a epic battleground) Yeah, the ryzen chips run real hot! It's normal. Slap an aftermarket cooler on there if you'd like to bring the temperature down some and hit the boost clock more (and reduce the noise levels), but for those games it's probably not worth stressing about. You probably want more intake than exhaust, which will reduce dust buildup (someone please correct me if I've got this the wrong way round).
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According to AMD load temps of up to 95C on the Ryzen 5600x are within normal expected operating range. It's doubtful your chip will ever get that hot while gaming, but if you're coming off an i5 it can be surprising to see spikes into the 70s and 80s. I got one of those fuckoff Noctua coolers and temps can still shoot up to 80C sometimes.
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I had a zotac 3090 in my cart earlier today, but didn't pull the trigger. I really don't want to pay 40% more for 15% gain vs the 3080. Just can't justify it.
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jeez is it worth trying to sell my 6 year old gtx 970 at this point
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Verviticus posted:jeez is it worth trying to sell my 6 year old gtx 970 at this point If you want $100-$150, yes https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=GTX+970&_sacat=0&rt=nc&LH_Sold=1&LH_Complete=1 Edit: christ, there are some that sold for $180
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is it normal for the backplate on a 6900xt to get too hot to touch while under only moderate load? it also idles at 50+ degrees but that's probably normal what with the fans not spinning when idle. i'm gonna let the card run for a couple weeks before i disassemble it but my last gpu was a 980ti, i have no point of reference for what's normal these days
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Truga posted:is it normal for the backplate on a 6900xt to get too hot to touch while under only moderate load? I can tell you my 3090 idles in the mid to low 30s without the fan on, 50c seems awfully hot for “idle”
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Sweeper posted:I can tell you my 3090 idles in the mid to low 30s without the fan on, 50c seems awfully hot for “idle” Most cards won't even spin the fans until the GPU hits 60C, it's totally normal if you're just using the default fan profile.
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Truga posted:is it normal for the backplate on a 6900xt to get too hot to touch while under only moderate load? Backplates act as heat sinks, so yes
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