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https://twitter.com/ByScottPowers/status/1453064057309876230 A little late, guys
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https://twitter.com/MarkLazerus/status/1453069685575008258 "I was just the GM, not my problem"
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Oct 26, 2021 19:48
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Quenneville's head really, really should roll 
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Oct 26, 2021 19:51
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https://twitter.com/rwesthead/status/1453070432756719620?t=7JVs6vCQ5xQjMpYW9SjOiw&s=19 Welp, have fun with that one, Panthers
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Oct 26, 2021 19:51
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Well the NHL has done...something: https://twitter.com/BenPopeCST/status/1453070850966626310?s=20
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Oct 26, 2021 19:55
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 Donald Fehr (and likely higher-ups at USA Hockey) also appears to have known about this since shortly after it happened.
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Oct 26, 2021 19:58
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St. Dogbert posted:Frankly, the owners paying a settlement and a couple of people quitting before they're fired doesn't feel like enough. I have a sinking feeling the NHL doesnt want to do that precisely because it will set such a big example and the last thing they want is people digging further into the leagues history around these kinds of situations. Especially after that story that came out of Pittsburgh last week about the staffers wife being assaulted. 
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Oct 26, 2021 20:00
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Ummagumma posted:Well the NHL has done...something: https://twitter.com/BenPopeCST/status/1453070850966626310?s=20 A fine of 0.06 Seth Joneses, that'll teach 'em a lesson they won't soon forget
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Oct 26, 2021 20:00
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Ummagumma posted:Well the NHL has done...something: https://twitter.com/BenPopeCST/status/1453070850966626310?s=20 A rounding error on the owners tax return.
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Oct 26, 2021 20:02
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They should also be taking away draft picks.
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Oct 26, 2021 20:09
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That "we don't have time for distractions" bullshit from Q is the same card Urban Meyer pulled when Zach Smith was abusing his wife at Ohio State.
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Oct 26, 2021 20:11
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Furnaceface posted:I have a sinking feeling the NHL doesnt want to do that precisely because it will set such a big example and the last thing they want is people digging further into the leagues history around these kinds of situations. Especially after that story that came out of Pittsburgh last week about the staffers wife being assaulted. You mean the one covered up by Team USA AGM Bill Guerin? (Team USA is probably in for a lot of poo poo now.)
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Oct 26, 2021 20:20
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Koth posted:They should also be taking away draft picks. Bowman already doled out that punishment before he hosed off, to be fair
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Oct 26, 2021 20:22
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Mage_Boy posted:You mean the one covered up by Team USA AGM Bill Guerin? (Team USA is probably in for a lot of poo poo now.) Isnt Bowman part of Team USA too?
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Furnaceface posted:Isnt Bowman part of Team USA too? Yeah, he's the GM. In Guerin's case at least there is already an announced investigation ongoing.
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Oct 26, 2021 20:26
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Koth posted:They should also be taking away draft picks. Nah this is serious but it’s not secretly testing some draft kids serious.
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Oct 26, 2021 20:27
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Some points of interest from the Jenner and Block report: -At the meeting mentioned, John McDonough (then President) stated that he would handle the investigation, but didn't do anything or report the accusations to the HR department for three weeks. -Nobody present at the meeting made any attempt to follow up on that statement, even years later when it was made clear no reasonable actions were taken. -During those three weeks, Brad Aldrich was allowed to travel with the team and take part in Stanley Cup celebrations, and made an unwanted advance on a 22 year old intern which was not reported at the time. -McDonough said that they didn't want any negative press during the playoffs. Quenneville was worried about "team chemistry" and apparently gave no credence to the accusations. -After McDonough (finally) reported the accusation to the the HR department, Aldrich was allowed to resign. -There is no evidence that any sort of investigation was carried out by the Blackhawks' HR department until the civil case was filed. This directly contradicts statements from the Blackhawks' organization made earlier this year. -Multiple parties interviewed stated that Kevin Cheveldayoff and Joel Quenneville were present at the meeting discussing the allegations, directly contradicting public statements that they had no knowledge of said allegations until this year. -Blackhawks' executives (Marie Sutera was named prominently) refused to co-operate with a police probe in to the allegations carried out in 2013. -Jenner and Block were given access to any and all records, information and personnel they wanted when investigating and compiling the report. However, a significant amount of information/evidence had been lost in the intervening years as the Blackhawks' organization had a policy of deleting email archives of former employees after a certain amount of time. -Jenner and Block state that there is no evidence that ownership or the current CEO had any knowledge of the accusations until this year. grack fucked around with this message at 21:54 on Oct 26, 2021 |
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Oct 26, 2021 20:30
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Oct 26, 2021 20:42
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Oct 26, 2021 20:47
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Relegate the entire team to the ECHL until everyone that was on the team at that time has either retired or been put in jail. Also make them change the logo and team name before they can come back.
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Oct 26, 2021 20:57
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Eric the Mauve posted:A fine of 0.06 Seth Joneses, that'll teach 'em a lesson they won't soon forget Seth Jones is the fine.
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Oct 26, 2021 21:02
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doesn't seem great https://twitter.com/wyshynski/status/1453090348230758402?s=20
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Oct 26, 2021 21:10
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Wife sent me a screencap saying Coach Q's Moustache, a Blackhawks shitposter, has quit because he's so disguested.
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Oct 26, 2021 21:19
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https://twitter.com/wyshynski/status/1453084342213873670 You can say Andrew Shaw, it's okay
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Oct 26, 2021 21:24
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Lifetime ban for any person involved. Also the Wirtz should be forced to sell the team. This is as bad (if not worse) than the Donald Sterling stuff.
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Oct 26, 2021 21:24
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https://twitter.com/laurkelly24/status/1453073311320182788?s=20 Seriously remove these players from the league and strike their names off the Cup
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Oct 26, 2021 21:24
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https://twitter.com/ByTimReynolds/status/1453105190471716867 Surely, if Gary Bettman fails to relieve Coach Q of his station at this meeting, I can definitely expect Panthers' owner Vincent "Trump's Nominee for Secretary of Defense" Viola to do so.
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Oct 26, 2021 22:21
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Stan Bowman Steps Down From USA Hockey's Men's Olympic Team
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Oct 26, 2021 22:56
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NHL needs to launch an investigation into every organization to root all this out. At this point, I would be completely surprised if Chicago is the only team that has swept poo poo under the rug. This is just like Penn State, Michigan, Michigan State, US Women’s Gymnastics, etc. It’s so obvious to me that all these abuse scandals that have come out the past 20 years ever since the Catholic Church was exposed in Boston indicate that positions in big powerful organizations are the most powerful means for abuse from evil people, and that the abuse is much more ubiquitous than we’d ever have feared. If an organization doesn’t have an extremely robust program to combat this poo poo from the top down they are negligent, complacent, enablers of this abuse. This motherfucker was allowed to resign and then went to teach high school hockey and then, unsurprisingly, raped another kid before being caught and sent to prison.
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Oct 26, 2021 23:00
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Well a bunch of Capitals players probably raped a 17-year-old girl back in 1990 and while it was well before my time, my understanding is that their solution was to get rid of nearly every player involved and never speak of it again.
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eXXon posted:Well a bunch of Capitals players probably raped a 17-year-old girl back in 1990 and while it was well before my time, my understanding is that their solution was to get rid of nearly every player involved and never speak of it again. Yeah time to make sure those people never get to work in hockey again in any capacity.
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eXXon posted:Well a bunch of Capitals players probably raped a 17-year-old girl back in 1990 and while it was well before my time, my understanding is that their solution was to get rid of nearly every player involved and never speak of it again. Was that Scott Stevens E: Stevens, Ciccarelli, Courtnall, and Sheehy Levitate fucked around with this message at 23:15 on Oct 26, 2021 |
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Oct 26, 2021 23:12
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Levitate posted:Was that Scott Stevens Dino Ciccarelli, Scott Stevens, Geoff Courtnall and Neil Sheahy, plus Nick Kypreos came by with a bucket of fried chicken, whistled innocently and left. That's not a joke.
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Oct 26, 2021 23:17
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A $2M fine is a joke.
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Oct 26, 2021 23:29
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eXXon posted:Dino Ciccarelli, Scott Stevens, Geoff Courtnall and Neil Sheahy, plus Nick Kypreos came by with a bucket of fried chicken, whistled innocently and left. That's not a joke. Some classic old boys are always involved in these lol quote:“We’re trying to put this behind us,” Capital General Manager Dave Poile said. “No charges were filed, but a lot of people were hurt by it. Dino has had to face this alone. He lives here and was around all summer. He’s taken the heat and I can’t say enough about the way he has responded. This is just another test for him. He just wants to get back to being Dino Ciccarelli, hockey player
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eXXon posted:Dino Ciccarelli, Scott Stevens, Geoff Courtnall and Neil Sheahy, plus Nick Kypreos came by with a bucket of fried chicken, whistled innocently and left. That's not a joke. Ciccarelli was a disgusting human being. He got busted for going outside nude and jerking off to his neighbor. Can't fathom all the terrible poo poo that pervert got away with.
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The actual allegations from that are horrific, but I’m gonna comment on two other things from the Washington post article about that. https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1990/05/18/capital-says-he-witnessed-a-struggle/6f73d4e0-9788-4437-947e-b41563265112/ quote:Another Capitals player, right wing Steve Leach, has told investigators that he has dated the 17-year-old girl and that the girl called him later Saturday morning to tell him about the events inside the limousine, law enforcement sources said. Nbd, just dating a 17 year old. quote:At some point in the evening, Mayo said that she woke up to realize that a different Capitals player -- Sheehy -- was having sex with her, she told police. Mayo told him to get off of her, but he refused and acted in a hostile way, according to a source's description of the account that Mayo gave police. And it wasn’t even the only rape of the evening (Mayo being a friend of the 17 year old who went to the same bar that night). Hockey culture is horrible and always has been.
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Tim Whatley posted:https://twitter.com/MarkLazerus/status/1453069685575008258 ah of course, savvy veteran stan bowman deciding to roll with The Joe Paterno
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Didnt both Doug Gilmour and Mike Ribeiro rape their kids babysitters too? Why am I only remembering all this awful stuff now? Has the NHL just been really good at burying these things or have there been so many incidents that Ive just gotten numb to it?
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Tim Whatley posted:https://twitter.com/MarkLazerus/status/1453069685575008258 I'm really not sure about the structure at that point, was his superior Scotty?
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