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I got to do my high school World Religions presentation on Discordianism. I found some ritual where I handed out donut and we did a chant about how good they are. The teacher was like that’s fun and no one is ever doing that as their topic again.
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I wonder if the discordians have a discord I could join.
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Mega Comrade posted:If you are referencing the University of Reading one using Eugene Goostman then many AI researchers don't accept it as passing as it the test was only 5 minutes and the 30% thing is argued over. Turing never set that as a requirement, it was just in his prediction that by 2000 people would "not have more than 70 per cent chance" of identifying a computer, and some people have decided to interpret it that way as it makes it easier to beat. Yah the whole trick were the computer pretends to be dumb or not speak the language is more of a cheat than a breakthrough in AI. I’ve heard the 30% of the time explained as a machine intelligence would probably be very different from a human intelligence.
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Jun 15, 2022 19:27
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Honestly, I think that Blake Lemoine's core point isn't bad: we don't have a way to assess machine sentience, and machine intelligence might be very different from human intelligence (and thus hard to recognize). I don't think that we are harming a sentient being in this case, but after reading the transcript, I can understand why Lemoine might come to that conclusion. Probably big AI companies should start thinking about these things more seriously, and have policies in place well before we reach general artificial intelligence.
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Jun 15, 2022 21:18
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That would be a reasonable precaution if we lived in a post-scarcity utopia, but we don't and it is so tremendously unlikely that we will create general AI during the lifetime of our civilization that it would be a tremendous waste of resources at this point
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Irony.or.Death posted:unlikely that we will create general AI during the lifetime of our civilization
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Shrecknet posted:gently caress that, get some GAI online. if I have to live in this hellworld, so does a robomind I Have No Mouth, And I Must Fellate Capitalists
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Jun 15, 2022 22:12
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blunt posted:Totally open to the possibility he's not telling the full truth (for example I don't believe that LAMDA is sentient!). But there's also a recent pattern of senior Google AI researchers leaving after research disagreements, so I'm pretty open to the possibility that some of these complaints about how Google's handling it in general have merit. He's a guy who likes a lot of attention and he saw that the AI researchers were getting a lot of attention for leaving. If he thinks that the chatbot is sentient then he is wildly unqualified to define responsible AI.
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https://twitter.com/varlogsimon/status/1537381252143128578?s=20 https://twitter.com/varlogsimon/status/1537412367948079106?s=20 quote:On the website of University Hospitals Cleveland Medical Center, for example, clicking the “Schedule Online” button on a doctor’s page prompted the Meta Pixel to send Facebook the text of the button, the doctor’s name, and the search term we used to find her: “pregnancy termination.” Javascript was a mistake
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Jun 16, 2022 16:47
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sinky posted:https://twitter.com/varlogsimon/status/1537381252143128578?s=20 it's almost like the current web is designed with the purpose to leak as much information about you as possible to third parties. gee I wonder how that happened.
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Jun 16, 2022 16:51
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Please, please tell me that this is finally an actually HIPAA violation and someone's going to get in trouble for it.
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Jun 16, 2022 16:53
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Please, please tell me that this is finally an actually HIPAA violation and someone's going to get in trouble for it. *monkey paw curls* the reporter has been jailed for HIPAA violations for revealing the healthcare details of the META corporation (a person)
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Jun 16, 2022 16:55
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:*monkey paw curls* That sounds more likely than anyone responsible getting a comeuppance, honestly. 
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Jun 16, 2022 16:56
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I'm a little confused as to why MetaPixel was on the hospital page in the first place. Was the hospital trying to have Facebook integration on their website? Or was it pulled in as part of some dependency? Or something else?
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VikingofRock posted:I'm a little confused as to why MetaPixel was on the hospital page in the first place. Was the hospital trying to have Facebook integration on their website? Or was it pulled in as part of some dependency? Or something else? watch it be "accidentally" built into the react framework secretly somehow. most likely because whoever built the application was told to add Facebook integration lol.
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Jun 16, 2022 17:05
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VikingofRock posted:I'm a little confused as to why MetaPixel was on the hospital page in the first place. Was the hospital trying to have Facebook integration on their website? Or was it pulled in as part of some dependency? Or something else? Could be part of any dependent packages. Could very well be more than 1!
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Jun 16, 2022 17:05
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The Twitter person isn't covered by HIPAA. It's explicitly only for healthcare providers, insurance companies, etc. And you can't violate your own privacy under the law. I assume you were joking, but a lot of people don't understand those details. Like, if I randomly find your medical file on the side of the road and post on the internet that you take boner pills and horse laxatives, I'm not violating HIPAA.
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Blue Footed Booby posted:The Twitter person isn't covered by HIPAA. It's explicitly only for healthcare providers, insurance companies, etc. And you can't violate your own privacy under the law. Oh, I don't think he'd be covered by HIPAA, I'm just thinking back to that whatever governor who was going to put a journalist in prison for hacking for finding that the state website was leaking teachers` SSNs. So in this case, hospitals report a violation of CFAA by the Tweeter and get off scott free.
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VikingofRock posted:I'm a little confused as to why MetaPixel was on the hospital page in the first place. Was the hospital trying to have Facebook integration on their website? Or was it pulled in as part of some dependency? Or something else? Google/Facebook/etc. make a lot of money off sourcing data, FB was likely just used as an API to funnel that data. Which is hugely bad. This is roughly what happened with Ascension Health. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Nightingale CommieGIR fucked around with this message at 17:26 on Jun 16, 2022 |
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Jun 16, 2022 17:22
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I saw this now you have to suffer as well https://twitter.com/TheFigen/status/1537145721442410497
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:I saw this now you have to suffer as well .....so a train. They want a train.
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CommieGIR posted:.....so a train. They want a train. What if a train, but way less safe? Don't worry, it has.... weird inflatable external padding that pops out when the bottom is hit, although it's nowhere near the bottom.
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Jun 16, 2022 17:34
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No, see, that's a train with only one door, that tips over easily and kills bystanders and passengers in the process. But! It comes with large marshmallows.
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CommieGIR posted:.....so a train. They want a train. A train that gets to play on the highway and on the massive pedestrian paths. After it has played by the ocean and in a desert. Without accumulating salt water corrosion or sand anywhere. It will also occasionally try to crush those beneath it simply because it needs to do so to get past a bridge. I'm sure everyone will behave calmly and rationally when the crushomatic decides to squeeze anyone beneath it in order to stick to its strict timetable. It will apparently also plow straight through accident sites, ignoring any potential hazards that may block its path at high altitude and then exacerbate the accident and just firing off air bags at anyone and anything around it, sending people and debris flying at shotgun speeds. I can't wait to see it in operation.
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CommieGIR posted:.....so a train. They want a train. no no no, you see it is a luxury transpod with vertical traffic bypass features. I love that they have the tracks implemented in the road between regular lanes with no protection or method for the cars to not be demolished when the not train speeds by them. the resulting crash then causes the giant structure to collapse off its stilt legs and crushes an additional 12 cars.
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CommieGIR posted:Google/Facebook/etc. make a lot of money off sourcing data, FB was likely just used as an API to funnel that data. Which is hugely bad. It's really not. Nightingale was an explicit agreement to hand over the patient data to Google, whereas the Meta Pixel stuff is for analytics and tracking. It's a tool designed to let the site owner track things like people clicking on their facebook ad, and then seeing what they do next when they get to the website. Of course, since it's Facebook the whole thing is designed to hoover up as much data as possible, and again since it's Facebook it's probably reasonable to imagine the worst possible case for what they choose to do with that data, but the hospitals here aren't deliberately or knowingly sending it across (e: "it" being the patient data here, they know they're sending the click info). That's still negligent on the hospital's part though. Scikar fucked around with this message at 18:01 on Jun 16, 2022 |
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How does it stay up?
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I think I drew this design in 5th grade.
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CommieGIR posted:.....so a train. They want a train. https://twitter.com/boring_as_heck/status/872144967350632448
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I love the bit where pedestrians are walking inches away from the track with zero safety measures separating them from being smeared over the rail.
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VikingofRock posted:I'm a little confused as to why MetaPixel was on the hospital page in the first place. Was the hospital trying to have Facebook integration on their website? Or was it pulled in as part of some dependency? Or something else? They probably wanted to track people's interactions with the site (what browser they use, how long they stay on each page, which buttons they click the most). MetaPixel will happily gather all that info for them, but it sends it off to Facebook to be processed into pretty spreadsheets and infographics that they can view in a control panels somewhere in Facebook For Business. Google Analytics works essentially the same way.
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How are u posted:How does it stay up? Gyroscopes i guess. Another thing that could fail catastrophically.
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Personally I prefer teleporters.
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There Bias Two posted:I love the bit where pedestrians are walking inches away from the track with zero safety measures separating them from being smeared over the rail. You mean a subway stop?
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:I saw this now you have to suffer as well I know a Dahir Insaat video when I see it, I'm a big fan of their Earthquake Bed that devours you whole. They're just patent trolls that really want Putin to give them money
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Mister Facetious posted:You mean a subway stop? At least in subway stops there are gaps. You couldn't idly walk into the path of the vehicle without falling onto the rails. That's not the case here.
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Say what you will about the unstable saucer design, the ridiculous pneumatic parts, or the frankly dangerous monorail placement, but I am 100% here for the 30 second service intervals.
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I loled at the placement immediately below the unstable sea cliff.
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Bellmaker posted:I know a Dahir Insaat video when I see it, I'm a big fan of their Earthquake Bed that devours you whole. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kC4DwcrE658 Or more transportation of the future, like flying trains: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZJ0KGAIM_w
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Rebel Blob posted:Indeed, enjoy 20 minutes of stilt buses: Like 200 years ago the train, an extremely efficient method of land transportation, was invented. A hundred years later a bunch of people said “I don’t want to share with poors” and now we are cursed until the end of time to try to make “trains but not for poor people.”
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