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Pastrami
May 27, 2004
Fear the Lunch Meat

Agronox posted:

Anyone doing anything of note now that debt ceiling shenanigans are starting to come into full focus? I put on some index shorts but haven't actually sold any of my longs.

VIX at 18 feels low here.

Complete and utter carrywhore reporting in. This is the least short volatility I've been in well over a year. Just took a tiny nibble on a VX short today but we are still talking a fraction of my normal size. R/R seems poor right now to be doing much with leverage. Too much headline risk right now, I won't be sizably short vol again until

1) Debt ceiling talks resolve OR
2) Vol moves substantially higher (Vx futures backwardation, VIX 30+)

My core portfolio remains net long.

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GhostofJohnMuir
Aug 14, 2014

anime is not good
huh hadn't seen this, apparently robinhood is going to offer 24/5 trading

makes sense, the most lucrative casinos are all open 24 hours a day. why turn away sleep deprived retail traders?

notwithoutmyanus
Mar 17, 2009
Nvidia jumped $100 after hour (25%) on earnings beat. Crazy.

Garfu
Mar 6, 2008

Much like buttholes, families are meant to be tight.
My AMD calls have been bananas over the past 6 months. Going to report out soon...

pmchem
Jan 22, 2010


ackman going full :commissar: on icahn, haha. payback for herbalife. long tweet: https://twitter.com/BillAckman/status/1661464270255603713?s=20

Subvisual Haze
Nov 22, 2003

The building was on fire and it wasn't my fault.

notwithoutmyanus posted:

Nvidia jumped $100 after hour (25%) on earnings beat. Crazy.

JPow, the market demands another 5% increase in interest rates

notwithoutmyanus
Mar 17, 2009

Subvisual Haze posted:

JPow, the market demands another 5% increase in interest rates

a lot of banks had huge bearish options flow today (C, usbank) and JETS the other day as well. It seems clear tech is maybe not going to exactly follow the rest of the market. Spy didn't even budge from NVDA.

err
Apr 11, 2005

I carry my own weight no matter how heavy this shit gets...

notwithoutmyanus posted:

Nvidia jumped $100 after hour (25%) on earnings beat. Crazy.

🤡🤡🤡

pmchem
Jan 22, 2010


nvda about 400 premarket.

assuming it meets 2q guide and has > 100% yoy revenue gains in each of 3q and 4q (12 and 13b), that its price declines to 380 at end of 4q, and share count is constant,

its TTM p/s would be like 22 at end of its current fiscal year. with super tough comps coming up.

they basically need to maintain startup level growth rates for years. i find it kind of nuts but i also own a nvidia card, use nvidia cards for ML at work, and there is no viable alternative. at a time when every major govt in the world is pouring a firehose of money into the space.

can’t be long at this price, but also can’t be short on a great company when actual shitcos exist out there to short

it’ll probably go up another 10% next q on another crazy guide because why not

FistEnergy
Nov 3, 2000

DAY CREW: WORKING HARD

Fun Shoe
It's a good company but its stock is a mini-bubble on top of the market bubble. So it's a stay-away IMO.

movax
Aug 30, 2008

FistEnergy posted:

It's a good company but its stock is a mini-bubble on top of the market bubble. So it's a stay-away IMO.

My cost-basis in NVDA goes back to 2019. Long-term hold for me, but today was a good day to cut some loose.

Femtosecond
Aug 2, 2003

Is the better investments in other companies around in the space as they ramp up to try to be in a position to be any sort of alternative product to Nvidia?

As you say right now Nvidia the only game in town, but people are working hard to position themselves to be other options.

AMD the obvious one already signalling that they're working hard on this (and they moved up with this Nvidia news). Anyone else?

Subvisual Haze
Nov 22, 2003

The building was on fire and it wasn't my fault.
$200 billion of market cap added in one day. per ZeroHedge "NVDA added more market cap today than the total market cap of 472 of 500 S&P companies".

Good company, wildly overpriced. Way too dangerous to short though.

Baddog
May 12, 2001

Femtosecond posted:

Is the better investments in other companies around in the space as they ramp up to try to be in a position to be any sort of alternative product to Nvidia?

As you say right now Nvidia the only game in town, but people are working hard to position themselves to be other options.

AMD the obvious one already signalling that they're working hard on this (and they moved up with this Nvidia news). Anyone else?

Intel is working (slowly) on it.

notwithoutmyanus
Mar 17, 2009
Microsoft made a huge potentoal investment in AI for amd. https://www.fool.com/investing/2023/05/04/did-microsoft-and-its-ai-ambitions-just-throw-amd/

Garfu
Mar 6, 2008

Much like buttholes, families are meant to be tight.
Right after their lovely earnings and right before that announcement is when I bought my LEAPs that I just sold for half a mil

Agronox
Feb 4, 2005

Garfu posted:

Right after their lovely earnings and right before that announcement is when I bought my LEAPs that I just sold for half a mil

Congrats! :toot:

sbaldrick
Jul 19, 2006
Driven by Hate

Canine Blues Arooo posted:

Certainly, but this is something that I think is going to happen on the scale of a decade and it's the kind of thing that is going to be extremely hard to reverse. Windows has been experiencing this basically since Windows 7 and I expect Windows' position as the dominant desktop OS to be in question come 2035, with no real route to reclaim that unless they pull their head out of their asses.

Something like Manifest V3 is going to cause some core chunk of nerds to switch to Firefox, but if some critical mass of ads can no longer be trivially blocked on Chromium that can be blocked on Firefox, that wave will gradually expand to an increasingly ignorant chunk of the market share. It'll take many years, but it wouldn't be the first time we've seen it.

Who do you feel is taking MS in the computer space as no business software really like Mac or Android.

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



sbaldrick posted:

Who do you feel is taking MS in the computer space as no business software really like Mac or Android.

A lot of business software now runs on cloud or colocated servers with users interacting with it on a web interface. Even microsoft itself is going along with this by going all in on azure.

orange sky
May 7, 2007

All my money is on T bills. How hosed am I and how would it be resolved if the debt ceiling is hit?

Sokani
Jul 20, 2006



Bison

orange sky posted:

All my money is on T bills. How hosed am I and how would it be resolved if the debt ceiling is hit?

Most likely, the interest would accrue as a debt and you would be backpaid after the ceiling is resolved.

Artonos
Dec 3, 2018
Just don't sell at a loss over the next few weeks if anything goes wrong. It'll more than likely return to it's correct level eventually.

orange sky
May 7, 2007

Cool, thanks!

Fireside Nut
Feb 10, 2010

turp


I'm kind of confused about why BUD and TGT are dropping as much as they are with the stupid chud 'boycotts'. Is there really that much selling pressure from what I would imagine to be a small segment of retail shareholders? And/or are bigger shareholders/firms selling based on declines in future ERs? I guess I don't quite understand how the price can be impacted like this.

Love Stole the Day
Nov 4, 2012
Please give me free quality professional advice so I can be a baby about it and insult you

Fireside Nut posted:

I'm kind of confused about why BUD and TGT are dropping as much as they are with the stupid chud 'boycotts'. Is there really that much selling pressure from what I would imagine to be a small segment of retail shareholders? And/or are bigger shareholders/firms selling based on declines in future ERs? I guess I don't quite understand how the price can be impacted like this.

My opinion:

The term I learned was "market emotion": basically, if enough institutions buy into the bullshit, then the price moves even if there's nothing rational to back it up.

Another example, in the other direction: over the past couple of weeks, semiconductors went flying up because of a market emotion about OpenAI and ChatGPT.

Once the news media is done talking poo poo, it'll bounce back (unless there became some legitimate reason for the movement to back it up).

Sokani
Jul 20, 2006



Bison
BUD was trading in the 40s not long before the failed advertising campaign. Stocks go up and down sometimes.

Subvisual Haze
Nov 22, 2003

The building was on fire and it wasn't my fault.
The BUD Puts I bought a month ago have tripled in value. Please keep working your magic angry chud consumers.

Chakan
Mar 30, 2011
People hear there’s a boycott of a company, they make moves based on the idea the stock will drop, which causes it to drop for a bit. Probably a good time to buy if you can see a month in the future and know the boycott will have blown over.

FistEnergy
Nov 3, 2000

DAY CREW: WORKING HARD

Fun Shoe
I bought a few TGT today and if it drops to 125 I'll buy a few more.

:shrug:

Subvisual Haze
Nov 22, 2003

The building was on fire and it wasn't my fault.
The default null hypothesis is always "it's random, stocks randomly go up and down for no apparent reason". Could even be the correct answer.

I think the winds might be changing though. Traditionally the right has been utterly incapable of boycotting, probably some combination of lack of organization plus their leaders largely being big business shills and thus ideologically anti-boycott. Maybe that's changing recently though? Social media is a powerful organizing force, and who knows how Elon's twitter algo might be subtly favoring certain topics. And success can breed success with regards to boycotts.

We won't see any updated earnings until August, but at least with $BUD there are some reports that sales of Bud Lite are down 20-30% relative to this point last year, with maybe 10% decrease to some of their other brands. Whether that boycott loss will be sustained, and how that translates to total hit to $BUD earnings, who knows. If nothing else, the range of $BUD over the last year has been $45-$66 per share. So a dip from $66 a month ago to $55 now could definitely be seen as just a mean reversion.

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



Are conservatives still boycotting the NFL?

Shear Modulus fucked around with this message at 04:42 on May 31, 2023

Canine Blues Arooo
Jan 7, 2008

when you think about it...i'm the first girl you ever spent the night with

Grimey Drawer

Shear Modulus posted:

Are conservatives still boycotting the NFL?

I don't think their attention span is that long tbh.

pseudanonymous
Aug 30, 2008

When you make the second entry and the debits and credits balance, and you blow them to hell.

Shear Modulus posted:

Are conservatives still boycotting the NFL?

I think they like to claim it but can’t actually do it.

Subvisual Haze
Nov 22, 2003

The building was on fire and it wasn't my fault.
https://www.axios.com/2023/05/31/anti-woke-movement-spac-investment-publicsq-target

quote:

Want to invest in the right-wing blowback to corporate diversity, equity and inclusion efforts? There's a SPAC for that.

Driving the news: It's called Colombier Acquisition Corp., and earlier this year agreed to merge with PublicSq, an online marketplace for companies in what it calls "the patriot economy."

If the deal closes, the combined company's board will include failed U.S. Senate candidate Blake Masters and former Mike Pence strategist Nick Ayers.
Why it matters: This comes at a moment when anti-LGBTQ activists have helped tank stock prices for companies like Anheuser-Busch InBev and Target.

PublicSq, which includes a section titled "Ditch Target 2.0," claims a 30% month-over-month user growth rate (now over 700k) and a 19% month-over-month business growth rate (over 50k) over the past year.
Last week it briefly rose to #4 in Apple's App Store, ahead of Amazon and Walmart, although by yesterday it had fallen back to #60.
"Any time Target pulls a Target, it's kind of a reminder for our consumers of, 'Hey, there's there's maybe some other options out there that we should pursue,'" PublicSq CEO Michael Seifert tells Axios.
Many of PublicSq's merchants appear to be apolitical, focusing instead on "American-made products," although there also are plenty of offerings like a "pro-life coffee brand."
The market provides

GhostofJohnMuir
Aug 14, 2014

anime is not good
a new spac offering in the year of our lord 2023? someone missed the memo about the current interest rate

Hadlock
Nov 9, 2004

CLBR

Are there any other blank check companies out there right now? Weird place to park $200mm right now but ok

Subvisual Haze
Nov 22, 2003

The building was on fire and it wasn't my fault.
If Blake Masters is involved one would assume Peter Thiel is.

Agronox
Feb 4, 2005

Hadlock posted:

CLBR

Are there any other blank check companies out there right now? Weird place to park $200mm right now but ok

I think there's still a few hundred out there, yeah. But the rate at which they're hitting liquidation deadlines exceeds that at which they're IPOing.

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



Conservatives never shopped at target anyway. It was always the kerry voter version of walmart.

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Love Stole the Day
Nov 4, 2012
Please give me free quality professional advice so I can be a baby about it and insult you
Bought TGT last week at $138.95 because I mis-timed the market emotion. Dollar cost averaging is like a coping mantra at this point.

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