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X-O
Apr 28, 2002

Long Live The King!

Don’t forget the one movie that Carano was the lead in they had to redub most of her lines with a different actress.

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MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

If sucks because I think she’s hot AF

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012

thrawn527 posted:

This is the main comparison for me. Carano was bad, but fine for those movies, I guess? in part 6. Rousey was awful in 7. Like, distractingly bad. And she was barely in it!

But again, Rousey knew to get out of acting and into Wrestling. Carano is doing everything she can to stay in acting, where she has no place being. And is an awful human being.

Rousey knew to get out of the UFC after getting humiliated 2x times in a row after being talked about like the Mike Tyson of women's MMA.

I can't remember the specifics but I think it basically boiled down to her being really good at only 1 thing, and having no defense against anything else which top talent Holmes and Nunes exploited. Rousey went from the top of the MMA world to an easy 1 round knockout and retired immediately after the 2nd time in a row she got dropped hard in under 2 rounds.

thrawn527
Mar 27, 2004

Thrawn/Pellaeon
Studying the art of terrorists
To keep you safe

MarcusSA posted:

I know someone who worked with Gordon on a few shows and they said he was really nice to work with and took really good care of everyone.

Yeah, Gordon's rear end in a top hat persona is a complete put on. I watched some of his UK shows, and he's way nicer. He seems like an alright guy, who knows that being a douchebag sells for a US audience.

1glitch0
Sep 4, 2018

I DON'T GIVE A CRAP WHAT SHE BELIEVES THE HARRY POTTER BOOKS CHANGED MY LIFE #HUFFLEPUFF

pentyne posted:

Rousey knew to get out of the UFC after getting humiliated 2x times in a row after being talked about like the Mike Tyson of women's MMA.

I can't remember the specifics but I think it basically boiled down to her being really good at only 1 thing, and having no defense against anything else which top talent Holmes and Nunes exploited. Rousey went from the top of the MMA world to an easy 1 round knockout and retired immediately after the 2nd time in a row she got dropped hard in under 2 rounds.

Once everyone figured out the cheat code was:

1. Under no circumstances do you EVER let her touch your arm, even for a second.
2. Bop her in the nose a few times.

The Rousey era was done.

bobjr
Oct 16, 2012

Roose is loose.
🐓🐓🐓✊🪧

https://twitter.com/hollywoodhandle/status/1754867011505606668

Arist
Feb 13, 2012

who, me?



*feverishly sprinting to my keyboard*

Now THAT'S a Quick Bite!

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS
If the movie doesn't end with him getting stoned and accidentally eating her what even is freedom

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007

thrawn527 posted:

Yeah, Gordon's rear end in a top hat persona is a complete put on. I watched some of his UK shows, and he's way nicer. He seems like an alright guy, who knows that being a douchebag sells for a US audience.

Honestly it's kind of hard to call him an rear end in a top hat even in US shows he's on. He's definitely louder and more dramatic, and they don't do as many "connect with some employee patiently in an encouraging way" moments but I don't think I've ever watched one of the US shows episodes and thought "oh what a mean douchebag." More likely I'm thinking something negative about a goober with a failing hotel/restaurant who seems determined to stay that way despite being on the show.

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

Ramsay correctly talked poo poo on TV about my neighborhood deli and for that he's alright to me. That place sucks.

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012

Khanstant posted:

Honestly it's kind of hard to call him an rear end in a top hat even in US shows he's on. He's definitely louder and more dramatic, and they don't do as many "connect with some employee patiently in an encouraging way" moments but I don't think I've ever watched one of the US shows episodes and thought "oh what a mean douchebag." More likely I'm thinking something negative about a goober with a failing hotel/restaurant who seems determined to stay that way despite being on the show.

The US shows are essentially scripted dramas at this point. Quite a few people who've come out of Masterchef/HK have admitted that everything is more or less staged at a certain point, and during the "tests" a lot of those big mistakes and failures are planned out, and even if not they would find out their equipment suddenly stops working all of a sudden.

I wouldn't say that the winners are picked out from day 1, but it's probably likely that the top 5-6 are picked out at the start and the entire process is around building their journey to success and figuring out who is the most marketable of them. For Masterchef the entire show is shot and finished before anything makes it to air, at one point there were 2 entire seasons sitting on ice they then aired back to back during covid times.

thrawn527
Mar 27, 2004

Thrawn/Pellaeon
Studying the art of terrorists
To keep you safe

Khanstant posted:

Honestly it's kind of hard to call him an rear end in a top hat even in US shows he's on. He's definitely louder and more dramatic, and they don't do as many "connect with some employee patiently in an encouraging way" moments but I don't think I've ever watched one of the US shows episodes and thought "oh what a mean douchebag." More likely I'm thinking something negative about a goober with a failing hotel/restaurant who seems determined to stay that way despite being on the show.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rnkr2UN5UU

I mean, he's not nice on his US shows. But again, it's a scripted persona. That was my original point.

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

thrawn527 posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rnkr2UN5UU

I mean, he's not nice on his US shows. But again, it's a scripted persona. That was my original point.

Idiot sandwich is amazing and I use that term nearly daily.

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


Carano is basically the modern version of those stunt men from the 80s who got to headline based on their fighting abilities but couldn't act for poo poo.

feedmyleg
Dec 25, 2004

I hope it winds up like how Pete turned into a toad in O Brother Where Art Thou.

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012

muscles like this! posted:

Carano is basically the modern version of those stunt men from the 80s who got to headline based on their fighting abilities but couldn't act for poo poo.

Brian Bozworth.

Stegosnaurlax
Apr 30, 2023

X-O posted:

Don’t forget the one movie that Carano was the lead in they had to redub most of her lines with a different actress.

The face saving reason for that was she had a miscarriage after filming and before the ADR and wasn't up to doing the ADR. But i'm sure the studio told them to dub her.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

muscles like this! posted:

1 - More Godzillas

Unless there were minus one godzilla

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007

pentyne posted:

The US shows are essentially scripted dramas at this point. Quite a few people who've come out of Masterchef/HK have admitted that everything is more or less staged at a certain point, and during the "tests" a lot of those big mistakes and failures are planned out, and even if not they would find out their equipment suddenly stops working all of a sudden.

I wouldn't say that the winners are picked out from day 1, but it's probably likely that the top 5-6 are picked out at the start and the entire process is around building their journey to success and figuring out who is the most marketable of them. For Masterchef the entire show is shot and finished before anything makes it to air, at one point there were 2 entire seasons sitting on ice they then aired back to back during covid times.

The competition shows kinda blur together for me and I haven't seen one start to end in so long I can't remember if I've seen his, or maybe he's just guested. I think the one with Padma was the one I watched the most of back in the day, maybe even on actual TV?

I was mostly thinking of the "fix a failing restaurant or hotel" shows, which have got to have just as much manipulation to get the edit beats they want. And yeah I can't deny he is mean, I think I just remember the eps more where the person was a dumbass in some way that I noticed that more than ramsey performatively shouting about it. Tend to forget the ones that just make their business a little better and they just gotta reach more for drama or else really hammer the crab cakes or something frozen from Cisco.

DaveWoo
Aug 14, 2004

Fun Shoe

Khanstant posted:

The competition shows kinda blur together for me and I haven't seen one start to end in so long I can't remember if I've seen his, or maybe he's just guested. I think the one with Padma was the one I watched the most of back in the day, maybe even on actual TV?

I was mostly thinking of the "fix a failing restaurant or hotel" shows, which have got to have just as much manipulation to get the edit beats they want. And yeah I can't deny he is mean, I think I just remember the eps more where the person was a dumbass in some way that I noticed that more than ramsey performatively shouting about it. Tend to forget the ones that just make their business a little better and they just gotta reach more for drama or else really hammer the crab cakes or something frozen from Cisco.

Hell's Kitchen is the show where Ramsay's a real rear end in a top hat. Though even that's been toned down significantly in recent seasons.

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


Very confused scrolling through Paramount Plus and seeing multiple entries for Drunk History. Apparently at one point the show was franchised out and they did ones focused on other countries?

Stegosnaurlax
Apr 30, 2023

muscles like this! posted:

Very confused scrolling through Paramount Plus and seeing multiple entries for Drunk History. Apparently at one point the show was franchised out and they did ones focused on other countries?

Uk one is garbage, and the US one peaked with the Dolly Parton story

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


There's a Mexico one too.

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!
🥷🐢😬



Stegosnaurlax posted:

Uk one is garbage, and the US one peaked with the Dolly Parton story

It’s incredible how bad the UK one is. It’s worth watching an episode with someone you like just to lose all respect for them.

Stegosnaurlax
Apr 30, 2023

muscles like this! posted:

There's a Mexico one too.

Now that i would watch.

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

Trying to figure out why the UK one sucks so hard and gonna throw a stupid theory out there. The original Drunk History was based off a comedian noticing how earnest and passionate his friends got about history when they got hammered (i.e. Jake Johnson almost crying about Otis Redding dying) and decided to make a show about it including his friends. Mostly it's funny because alcohol breaks through Americans instinctive aversion towards historical knowledge and elitism into something odd and sweet.

The British version, from what I've seen, was a nasty and horrible demonstration of strangers trying to show off their historical knowledge, reinforcing the standard positive images held by many in England regarding historical knowledge justifying elitism. There is no subversion there, its an annoying guy at a party trying to own you with their big brain, which feels like a more European thing to happen than in the States.

Anyway huge generalizations for everyone!

IRQ
Sep 9, 2001

SUCK A DICK, DUMBSHITS!

A British drunk history does sound like it would bring the colonialism back out in people. I didn't love the American one though.

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


https://twitter.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1755592743903268918
Knuckles TV show

Bright Bart
Apr 27, 2020

False. There is only one electron and it has never stopped
Trip reports:

Mr. & Mrs. Smith still entertaining me half-way in. What actually surprised me was the third episode. Like you knew that these people had some sort of special forces/intelligence background. They're not entirely buffoons stumbling around. But it was made to look (to me at least) like they're pretty much support staff office workers trying to live their 007 fantasies. Instead, no, Danny Glover just straight up James Bonds his way through the situation.

The earlier seasons of Better Things that I'm only just now coming to are almost as terrific as the later ones. Overall the differences are the ones I was told about : the background parts are played a lot more like caricatures, and the older kids are a lot less mature (in the latter seasons the oldest seems to have gained a modicum of self-confidence while the middle daughter stops being at mom's throat all the time and in general they chill out) . But you should still watch the entire series.

Monsieur Spade's third episode saw our hero in a pretty brutal situation. Like, you know he's gonna get through it. Spade isn't being played by Sean Bean. He'll survive. But the resolution in the latest one was, well, remember Bond about to die from poison in Casino Royale? Well it's like that if Daniel Craig was falling down and hitting his head on concrete and spitting up blood. But then he suddenly remembers that he has an all-purpose antidote right there on him. It did end in an interesting way though and I'm still excited for the next one.

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS

Bright Bart posted:

Trip reports:

Mr. & Mrs. Smith still entertaining me half-way in. What actually surprised me was the third episode. Like you knew that these people had some sort of special forces/intelligence background. They're not entirely buffoons stumbling around. But it was made to look (to me at least) like they're pretty much support staff office workers trying to live their 007 fantasies. Instead, no, Danny Glover just straight up James Bonds his way through the situation.




Had me confused for a split second

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012

Shageletic posted:

Trying to figure out why the UK one sucks so hard and gonna throw a stupid theory out there. The original Drunk History was based off a comedian noticing how earnest and passionate his friends got about history when they got hammered (i.e. Jake Johnson almost crying about Otis Redding dying) and decided to make a show about it including his friends. Mostly it's funny because alcohol breaks through Americans instinctive aversion towards historical knowledge and elitism into something odd and sweet.

The British version, from what I've seen, was a nasty and horrible demonstration of strangers trying to show off their historical knowledge, reinforcing the standard positive images held by many in England regarding historical knowledge justifying elitism. There is no subversion there, its an annoying guy at a party trying to own you with their big brain, which feels like a more European thing to happen than in the States.

Anyway huge generalizations for everyone!

that's the thing about British comedy, tons of comedians come out of the Oxbridge system, where simply having that on your resume means you will get booked over funnier people who don't, and eventually make your way to BBC panel show regular by virtue of being a known face

Bright Bart
Apr 27, 2020

False. There is only one electron and it has never stopped

Medullah posted:



Had me confused for a split second

I mean, I like Donald Glover, but have to admit it'd be a much better show.

PriorMarcus
Oct 17, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT BEING ALLERGIC TO POSITIVITY

Bright Bart posted:

I mean, I like Donald Glover, but have to admit it'd be a much better show.

What would probably make it a better show is if you watched it in reverse order.

oh god oh fuck
Dec 22, 2019

pentyne posted:

Rousey knew to get out of the UFC after getting humiliated 2x times in a row after being talked about like the Mike Tyson of women's MMA.

I can't remember the specifics but I think it basically boiled down to her being really good at only 1 thing, and having no defense against anything else which top talent Holmes and Nunes exploited. Rousey went from the top of the MMA world to an easy 1 round knockout and retired immediately after the 2nd time in a row she got dropped hard in under 2 rounds.

Ronda was extremely talented and could have had a GSP style comeback if she ditched her awful awful coach. It wouldn't be that hard for a fighter of her caliber to shore up her weaknesses in striking and footwork if she went to a better gym. Unfortunately I think where she struggled (besides being too loyal to her bad coach) was the mental recovery after the loss. Having that aura of invincibility was something she also seemed to buy into and having it shattered really seemed to gently caress her up.

BonoMan
Feb 20, 2002

Jade Ear Joe

kinda surprised that this doesn't look terrible. Solid cast of side characters and the production values seem on par with the movie. Being a limited 6 episode event makes me more hopeful too.

HOLY FUCK
Mar 31, 2007

Cats are terrifying, everyone knows that! 'Cause they're witches! And they've got knives in their feet!


https://x.com/AppleTV/status/1754565569016164805

this looks fun!

feedmyleg
Dec 25, 2004
I'm such a sucker for historical comedies. I'm in. I like Noel Fielding when he's well-utilized and generally find his shtick quite charming, but he can definitely cross over into obnoxious territory. I'm hoping he's somewhat reeled in here, because from the trailer it looks a bit like a one man show.

Oasx
Oct 11, 2006

Freshly Squeezed
I will give anything with Noel Fielding in it a shot.

HOLY FUCK
Mar 31, 2007

Cats are terrifying, everyone knows that! 'Cause they're witches! And they've got knives in their feet!


Even if it ends up being not great I'm probably going to watch the whole thing anyway, I've missed Noel Fielding

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AcidCat
Feb 10, 2005

Oasx posted:

I will give anything with Noel Fielding in it a shot.

Yup looks fun.

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