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Opopanax seems scummy to me, I think. It doesn't really feel as if they're earnestly engaging with the case made against them ##vote Opopanax
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fool of sound posted:2) the wins votes happened organically from town because of the general lack of consensus and dwindling time, in which case scum would prefer to not join the vote if they weren't already part of it. considering how fast the momentum built at the end Sure but we had how long to check the thread and vote in the time between Wins becoming an option and hammer? And not a single person posted in that time without voting.
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Mar 11, 2024 11:25
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Tired Moritz posted:If I randomly get day action'd, I would be a bit paranoid that I did not get rolecopped or bombed or poisoned An action can't do anything if it failed. Actually I think that if it had hit a BP it would have succeeded, yet result in nothing visible happening.
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Mar 11, 2024 11:27
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fool of sound posted:so, to that end: in scenario 1 shark cube mortiz, in scenario 2 opop, keats, sand, grandi, and you. I'd like to point out that scenario 1 relies on scum not wanting one of Maer or Opop to die. That means they should be added to the sus list for scenario 1 and what have we here? Opop is on both lists.
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Mar 11, 2024 11:30
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Idk why but my guts are saying Dan and oppo are on the same (evil) team
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Mar 11, 2024 11:46
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fool of sound posted:I do no think that opop is clear because they survived a shot. One scum with bulletproof in a game with a vig isn't an uncommon counter. I fairly firmly read keats as town. Null on sand atm, not enough to go on. ok fine
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Mar 11, 2024 12:58
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Tired Moritz posted:This is a salad game and I have seen them give people false leading day actions before what does this mean - like salad told me I have a vig but knew it would for sure never work?
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Mar 11, 2024 12:58
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My gut says yuming is Problematic
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Mar 11, 2024 13:05
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Maerlyn posted:I could see voting for Opop or Sand, both give me light scum pings (Sand is lurking, Opop feels kinda disengaged vaguely.... It's hard to define) Maerlyn posted:Grandi is town, I feel like I've got a good read on him in this game Really disliking these posts. Not just because I don't see me playing a strong town game, so anyone who has this strong of a town read on me has to be faking it. I mean, my vote count analysis came to no solid conslusions. But also because the scum calls here are both light and surface level, with a side of hedge. Her d1 was tonally weird too. ##vote Maer
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Mar 11, 2024 14:05
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Dans Macabre posted:My gut says yuming is Problematic What do you think of Opop and Fancy? Fancy coming in and dropping a vote on Opop as their only content is not a good look. Their perspective is so different from last game and I can see them killing shwinn.
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Mar 11, 2024 14:35
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Tired Moritz posted:Not liking how oppo did not answer my questions tbh! It was nighttime, I was sleeping. Also there's not much to answer there without getting bogged down in the same pointless discussions I'm currently voting Keats for AFancyQuestionMark posted:Opopanax seems scummy to me, I think. It doesn't really feel as if they're earnestly engaging with the case made against them What does that even mean? How does one earnestly engage with the cases on them? Especially when they're pretty much all terrible?
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Mar 11, 2024 14:37
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Tired Moritz posted:Well.... Are you an utensil? Ok I guess there's aren't super hypothetical, just dumb and pointless so whatever. 1- Kind of, at least as much as a pot lid is anyways, but that's moot as we discussed yesterday and wouldn't matter 2-he didn't get killed for a fake day action so yeah 3-i was one of 2 vote leaders near EOD
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Mar 11, 2024 14:39
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It's very difficult for me to get any kind of read here, but I am strongly leaning towards Opop being scum. I think yuming is town. Shark as well.
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Mar 11, 2024 14:47
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yuming posted:Well take some probiotics because you’re off here. Opop - I stand by my opinion that it is LESS LIKELY that he's scum because he survived by vig attempt. I'm not ruling it out but I'd rather focus elsewhere. Fancy - this is my third game with them, and I didn't have good reads last two rounds. I'll agree with you the content isn't good. I would vote for Fancy over Opop today, and in fact over Keats as well (which is where my vote is now) so I will move ## vote AFQM
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Mar 11, 2024 14:52
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AFancyQuestionMark posted:It's very difficult for me to get any kind of read here, but I am strongly leaning towards Opop being scum. Because I'm not "earnestly engaging with the case made against me"? How about you start, summarize the case made against me in your own words, because right now this is just a bizarre tag-along vote
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Mar 11, 2024 14:53
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I'm voting Opop for mostly the Shwin kill which admittedly he can't possibly argue against
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Mar 11, 2024 15:09
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Opopanax posted:
I will confirm this is why I picked him.
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Mar 11, 2024 15:17
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##unvote so many people are voting me for boneheaded reasons and I want to omgus them all, I think it’s best if I have coffee before committing to anyone rn
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Mar 11, 2024 15:45
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##vote Fancy
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Mar 11, 2024 15:48
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Johnny Keats posted:I'd like to point out that scenario 1 relies on scum not wanting one of Maer or Opop to die. That means they should be added to the sus list for scenario 1 and what have we here? Opop is on both lists. Oh this is actually a good point that I completely overlooked: maer and opop feature in both scenarios. I'd def vote either, leaning a bit more towards maer atm for their buddying up to grandi and their reasoning, and ignoring my post where I specifically point this out.
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Mar 11, 2024 16:08
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sharkmafia posted:2. fool of sound, what do you think of my read on opop based on how a scum would be likely to act re: a bulletproof? he has not actually claimed bulletproof and is in fact doing the opposite Unless we get a claim that opop got a night 0 gift or some poo poo that would secretly give them bulletproof I think there's no reason to believe that they're not just lying.
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Mar 11, 2024 16:11
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How is pot lid a utensil?? That's like half a utensil at most
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Mar 11, 2024 16:19
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Honestly I might need to look up the definition of utensil because I'm here thinking like forks and spoons and sporks Like if I ask for a utensil and someone gives me a stockpot, I'll go wtf
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Mar 11, 2024 16:22
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Okay I looked it up and I still don't think pot lids are considered utensils!!!
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Mar 11, 2024 16:30
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fool of sound posted:Unless we get a claim that opop got a night 0 gift or some poo poo that would secretly give them bulletproof I think there's no reason to believe that they're not just lying. for what purpose, then? saying 'yeah im bulletproof' would be very low-risk, as its unlikely an roleseer or whatever would use a night to investigate a claimed bulletproof who did in fact resist a vig shot
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Mar 11, 2024 16:38
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saladscooper posted:At dawn, the saucepan was found rusted in the compost bin. For TM
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Mar 11, 2024 16:40
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which is to say that opop willingly forewent an easy out. the most obvious reason he would do this is he wanted to tell the truth. telling the truth even when it seems more suspicious is town behavior
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Mar 11, 2024 16:40
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sharkmafia posted:for what purpose, then? saying 'yeah im bulletproof' would be very low-risk, as its unlikely an roleseer or whatever would use a night to investigate a claimed bulletproof who did in fact resist a vig shot to sow confusion and make results untrustworthy?
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Mar 11, 2024 16:48
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I still want to check Grandi's dream. Shark seeming townie but I don't think I've seen scumShark. Dans could potentially be scum on a really specific scum team, like one with me. I'd need to think about other scenarios. Opop being alive is weird. Feeling non-scum. Grandi null. Even if Yuming flips scum I don't think that would clear Grandi. The whole dream thing could be a manufactured bus which would be... pretty great, actually. I'll do more later.
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Mar 11, 2024 16:50
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CubicalSucrose posted:I still want to check Grandi's dream. Me me me
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Mar 11, 2024 16:56
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fool of sound posted:to sow confusion and make results untrustworthy? not buying it. it's drawing unnecessary heat for an unclear benefit. it doesn't even really implicate dans, because that was clearly a real vig. it's not impossible its a ploy but any townie cred they gain from it is clearly less than what they'd have gained by simply claiming a townie role, given this conversation. opop could be scum. this isn't that strong a read and scum could easily decide to tell the truth about this as well to seem town, but i think regardless of his alignment he's telling the truth
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Mar 11, 2024 16:57
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If Opop was scum with BP then they would be lying for absolutely no reason, and if he's town he wouldn't lie about that for no reason so there was no BP
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Mar 11, 2024 17:03
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Where does info take us? (Idk I'm thinking out loud)
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*that info
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Mar 11, 2024 17:04
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"Town would never lie for no reason" said Johnny Keats
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Mar 11, 2024 17:11
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Like I don't buy that Opop is likely town at all but lmao at that supposition.
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Thinking about this... I can see a town or a scum opop lying about not knowing how he survived my attempt. Could be to cast doubt on whether future exec or nk attempts would succeed. I still am leaning towards likely town.
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Mar 11, 2024 17:17
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Opopanax posted:Because I'm not "earnestly engaging with the case made against me"? How about you start, summarize the case made against me in your own words, because right now this is just a bizarre tag-along vote The case made against you is that you've reacted in a strangely non plussedcway about being shot and not dying, without having any kind of BP.
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Mar 11, 2024 17:29
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fool of sound posted:"Town would never lie for no reason" said Johnny Keats You are generalizing SO MUCH. I would probably know better than most when it feels appropriate for town to lie about something. That's not one of those times
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Dans Macabre posted:Thinking about this... I can see a town or a scum opop lying about not knowing how he survived my attempt. Could be to cast doubt on whether future exec or nk attempts would succeed. I still am leaning towards likely town. i don't think this line of play would actually do anything to dissuade an elimination so if you're correct that's a townie thing to do regardless i don't think opop is a particularly good target at the moment. he's not cleared but 'he could be scum lying just to spread chaos!!!' is something i've heard people suggest far more than something i've actually seen happen
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