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BRJurgis posted:If you can both agree the government should be our power against capital and the forces making our lives and world worse... if you can convince them the government sucks because of capital... if you can advocate for communities looking out for people... you're gonna be real surprised when you find out that their answer to all of that is to: - purge the countryside of minorities and gays (because those are the forces they think are making their lives worse) - dismantle all federal government agencies (because the power of capital corrupts government, and therefore government should be as weak as possible) - and put all power under a local government, which in turn is placed under the control of the local wealthy and powerful (because, as community members and community leaders, those are the obvious representatives to oversee the community looking out for itself and protecting itself from evil outsider capitalists) there's a reason red-brown alliances haven't worked out very well historically, despite their mutual distrust for established power
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Main Paineframe posted:there's a reason red-brown alliances haven't worked out very well historically, despite their mutual distrust for established power Hey, it only turned bad for Hitler when the Soviets didn't cave in Oh, you meant
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# ? Mar 23, 2024 18:13 |
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mahershalalhashbaz posted:lol It was less theories on life and more a cavalcade of original cartoon characters and a jazz score to match dashing through my brain like a freight train. It was interesting, but a solid reminder why alcohol is my vice of choice
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# ? Mar 23, 2024 18:22 |
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We (you and I) obviously disagree on whether our systems and status quo have already failed, or are even capable of reform. So for me, this isn't a political alliance because I personally think our politics has failed, and lack the faith or imagination to conceive of it improving. But I can have faith and imagination enough for individual people. And even within an electoralism/political perspective surely discussing and possibly moving the needle has value. Compelling by word seems better than force, and more effective than by vote. Anyway I'm fried today so "talking about talking about serious poo poo" is as close as I should get.
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# ? Mar 23, 2024 19:26 |
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BRJurgis posted:If you can both agree the government should be our power against capital and the forces making our lives and world worse... if you can convince them the government sucks because of capital... if you can advocate for communities looking out for people... "The diehard Republicans are actually Communists, you just need to talk to them!" take isn't new, but it usually isn't this blatant. A good chunk of my extended family is made up of diehard Republicans, and I've met my share over the years. This is a fantasy.
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# ? Mar 23, 2024 21:38 |
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Everything we aspire to is a fantasy, though. And while we hopefully operate under laxer rules, the poster in question did mention they would not "start there", either.
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# ? Mar 23, 2024 21:41 |
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if everything is a fantasy, where is my unicorn, huh
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# ? Mar 23, 2024 23:44 |
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DeadlyMuffin posted:"The diehard Republicans are actually Communists, you just need to talk to them!" take isn't new, but it usually isn't this blatant. If a diehard republican is by definition some irredeemable, unreachable foe, than I'm genuinely sorry you have a bunch in your life... but I suppose I'm talking to the other relatively ignorant and self interested folks that make up the world. Also I've just imagined a perfectly diehard republican, in a lib-less void.
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# ? Mar 23, 2024 23:50 |
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Cease to Hope posted:if everything is a fantasy, where is my unicorn, huh This is why you voted for Hillary!
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# ? Mar 24, 2024 02:44 |
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BRJurgis posted:If you can both agree the government should be our power against capital Bad news
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# ? Mar 24, 2024 03:00 |
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I only fantasize about a future where we don’t have to have the same stupid arguments about tactical voting and the lesser of two evils every four years
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# ? Mar 24, 2024 03:09 |
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Pirate Radar posted:I only fantasize about a future where we don’t have to have the same stupid arguments about tactical voting and the lesser of two evils every four years this is probably not possible without firebombing... well i was gonna say the servers but i guess it's the cloud now. so shoot napalm wildly into the air, that should help.
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# ? Mar 24, 2024 03:17 |
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speaking of napalm, i've been thinking lately how many white liberals have told me that back in the day they were profoundly affected by that photo of the little vietnamese girl burned by napalm and it really changed their hearts and minds about the war now there are images orders of magnitude worse than that one coming out of gaza every single day and nobody seems to give a poo poo
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# ? Mar 24, 2024 03:20 |
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nvm this isn't the thread or the place
mahershalalhashbaz fucked around with this message at 03:41 on Mar 24, 2024 |
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Cease to Hope posted:this is probably not possible without firebombing... Firebombing doesn’t sound impossible but given how mad people get about the topic whenever it comes up the most likely place for it seems like my house
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# ? Mar 24, 2024 03:34 |
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Pirate Radar posted:Firebombing doesn’t sound impossible but given how mad people get about the topic whenever it comes up the most likely place for it seems like my house firebombing the cloud. i would not exhort anyone to violence against you or your house if you want to hold a bbq that's probably a good compromise though
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# ? Mar 24, 2024 03:38 |
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i'm so tired
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# ? Mar 24, 2024 03:40 |
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you're not insane, avs, the occupation is.
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# ? Mar 24, 2024 03:44 |
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Cease to Hope posted:you're not insane, avs, the occupation is. lately i've also been thinking about all those kids who got shot for throwing stones. i realised that every time i heard that story - and there were many times - i kind of justified it in my head like "what if that kid was just really good at throwing stones?" like what if these palestinian children were running around pelting rocks with such superhuman aim and skill that the soldiers had no choice but to consider them a genuine threat? like i never actually went so far as to spell it out in my mind, but those were the mental gymnastics i went through to try to justify it to myself. and that deranged justification is considered saner by current standards than saying "maybe an unarmed ten-year-old is never a viable threat that needs to be liquidated."
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# ? Mar 24, 2024 03:54 |
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mahershalalhashbaz posted:speaking of napalm, i've been thinking lately how many white liberals have told me that back in the day they were profoundly affected by that photo of the little vietnamese girl burned by napalm and it really changed their hearts and minds about the war i posted that photo in one of the dad chat iterations and then people got mad at me
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# ? Mar 24, 2024 04:10 |
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Run girl run
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# ? Mar 24, 2024 04:12 |
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mahershalalhashbaz posted:both can be true. i feel insane for believing the fiction for such a long time it's a really effective fiction, one given the twin imprimaturs of history and consensus. the fact that you can nonetheless find your way past those to test that fiction against your other firm convictions and find it wanting, that's not insanity. that's just having a strong moral compass.
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# ? Mar 24, 2024 04:33 |
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mahershalalhashbaz posted:speaking of napalm, i've been thinking lately how many white liberals have told me that back in the day they were profoundly affected by that photo of the little vietnamese girl burned by napalm and it really changed their hearts and minds about the war I think Stalin has a quote about that
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# ? Mar 24, 2024 04:53 |
i appreciate your conscience avs
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# ? Mar 24, 2024 06:36 |
every time i go by the mcdonald's near my parents' place i momentarily think this is the napalm girl photo
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# ? Mar 24, 2024 06:40 |
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thank you dadchat. i don't need to have my rear end patted for being sad about the situation. my posting on this is just useless self-pity that doesn't help anyone. but it is nice to have a friendly void to scream into. the sense of helplessness and despair is crushing and it's growing every single day.
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# ? Mar 24, 2024 06:48 |
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the joementum finally ground to a halt, at the gates of hell
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# ? Mar 27, 2024 22:58 |
got my hopes up smh
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# ? Mar 28, 2024 06:41 |
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my favourite part of studying educational systems around the world is all the researchers singing the praises of the magical finns. happiest country on earth! i've come to realise the finnish tendency to become chaos elementals online is not despite their superb education system, but because of it. dealing with americans drives them insane
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# ? Mar 31, 2024 10:29 |
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i have three and a half hours to pare this assignment down to under 3,000 words. it is currently 4,780
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# ? Mar 31, 2024 10:39 |
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"This topic merits further explanation in greater detail, but that is beyond the scope of this document."
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# ? Mar 31, 2024 11:06 |
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mahershalalhashbaz posted:my favourite part of studying educational systems around the world is all the researchers singing the praises of the magical finns. happiest country on earth! Have you seen Americans? Or worse yet, have you seen a Swede? That's some Lovecraft poo poo right there, and not in the tentacle happy sort of way
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# ? Mar 31, 2024 11:19 |
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Rappaport posted:Have you seen Americans? assignment update: it ended up just over 5000 words, i was trying to cut it down but somehow it just kept growing. i submitted it anyway and sent a letter of apology to the marker.
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# ? Mar 31, 2024 12:30 |
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void scream
mahershalalhashbaz fucked around with this message at 11:39 on Apr 1, 2024 |
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loving
mahershalalhashbaz fucked around with this message at 11:56 on Apr 1, 2024 |
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Please stay safe, avs
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# ? Apr 1, 2024 12:34 |
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what the gently caress? what the gently caress [rant deleted] Rappaport posted:Please stay safe, avs mahershalalhashbaz fucked around with this message at 12:52 on Apr 1, 2024 |
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mahershalalhashbaz fucked around with this message at 13:44 on Apr 1, 2024 |
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mahershalalhashbaz posted:void scream
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# ? Apr 1, 2024 12:52 |
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# ? Jun 15, 2024 22:18 |
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sorry, i keep posting poo poo, i'll stop now. too many photos of child skeletons and rotting severed heads for one night. gently caress israel, free palestine mahershalalhashbaz fucked around with this message at 14:16 on Apr 1, 2024 |
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