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Oct 1, 2015 03:26
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Is it the dean/cesaro/reigns episode already?
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Oct 1, 2015 03:32
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Humphrey Vasel posted:Is it the dean/cesaro/reigns episode already? Close.
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Oct 1, 2015 03:33
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I want a Shield table for 3 so bad my back teeth are floating. Also a 3MB.
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Oct 1, 2015 03:35
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I saw this and it's why the John Cena open challenge is bullshit. https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle/comments/3n1ml6/john_cenas_losses_on_free_tv_in_the_last_10_years/ John Cena has not lost clean by pinfall on free TV in a one-on-one match in the last 2172 days. He has lost clean on Raw 4 times in the last 10 years (excluding one countout). He did not lose a one-on-one match at all on free TV for 494 days between June 6, 2013 to October 13, 2014.
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Oct 1, 2015 03:36
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I didn't see that, just Dean, so I thought it was gonna be a SHIELD reunion and now I'm sad 
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Oct 1, 2015 03:36
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Tezzor posted:I saw this and it's why the John Cena open challenge is bullshit. More people should be booked like John Cena.
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Oct 1, 2015 03:38
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Alain Post posted:More people should be booked like John Cena.
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Oct 1, 2015 03:40
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Roman Reigns, too, should not be dropping matches clean on TV if they still want him to be pushed as the top face in the future.
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Oct 1, 2015 03:41
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Senerio posted:According to the trailer, that one is labelled "The Brass Ring" i do not find the use of irony in the title very funny 
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Oct 1, 2015 03:41
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Alain Post posted:Roman Reigns, too, should not be dropping matches clean on TV if they still want him to be pushed as the top face in the future. The second time, and the first in a singles match, was on a random Smackdown against Bog How 
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Oct 1, 2015 03:43
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St Evan Echoes posted:The first time Roman Reigns ate a pin was the climax of that amazing match with the Wyatts. The 11-on-3.
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Oct 1, 2015 03:45
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Senerio posted:The 11-on-3.  E: Wait, wasn't that after Elimination Chamber? E2: No 
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Oct 1, 2015 03:46
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They even made it a big announcement. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, ROMAN REIGNS HAS JUST BEEN PINNED FOR THE FIRST TIME
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Oct 1, 2015 03:47
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St Evan Echoes posted:For example, the current WWE Champion, who has been pinned clean as a whistle at least twice on Raw and probably a bunch more times. http://www.profightdb.com/wrestlers/seth-rollins-3328.html?year=2015&res=2000 John Cena has lost on Raw or Smackdown one-on-one 31 times in the last 10 years. Seth Rollins has lost one-on-one on free TV 11 times since Wrestlemania 31.
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Oct 1, 2015 04:04
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The problem is not that John Cena never loses. The problem is that no one else never loses.
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Oct 1, 2015 04:11
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I mean, not a lot of people should be booked like a top face other than Cena/Lesnar, but Rollins and Reigns definitely should.
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Oct 1, 2015 04:12
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Alain Post posted:I mean, not a lot of people should be booked like a top face other than Cena/Lesnar, but Rollins and Reigns definitely should. Rollins shouldn't be booked like a top face, but he should be booked like a top heel. Like when Triple H was doing the McMahon Helmsley bit, he won by run in and got himself DQed a lot, but he also won lots of matches via shenanigans. Rollins never really cheats, other guys just run in to help him.
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Oct 1, 2015 04:15
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It just seems like WWE forgets that there are finishes that both get heat on your heel and make your babyface look like the better man even though the heel wins. weapon spots, feet on the ropes, etc. WWE just seems like they either want their heels to win clean, which is ok for setup matches but they really shouldn't be doing it too often against top faces, or they want to have heels win via interference, which just pisses off everyone and makes your heel look weak.
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Oct 1, 2015 04:18
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as we all know, wins and losses dont matter
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Oct 1, 2015 05:04
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Tezzor posted:I saw this and it's why the John Cena open challenge is bullshit. According to profightdb, the Big Show has won 10 matches clean on TV (one was on Main Event!!!) or PPV since January 1. He is facing Brock Lesnar. We are in a post-wins-and-losses world.
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Oct 1, 2015 05:11
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Does Cena's merchandise sales really drop if he loses a match clean once in awhile? I thought that was an excuse that was used for him never losing.
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Oct 1, 2015 05:21
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Niwrad posted:Does Cena's merchandise sales really drop if he loses a match clean once in awhile? I thought that was an excuse that was used for him never losing. The rumor was that the Cena/Owens rematch was booked after Cena's sales dropped like 2% after losing to Owens despite the fact that it boosted Owens sales even more. Cena Owens and Reigns are the top merch movers IIRC.
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Oct 1, 2015 05:23
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Cena merch accounts for something ridiculous like 10% of annual revenue.
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Oct 1, 2015 05:31
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crazy to think punk beat his merch sales mid 2011 and they pissed that all away
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Oct 1, 2015 05:34
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Skaw posted:Gotta feel bad for Heath there, man. The Twitter hype machine building up his appearance, first time on a televised RAW program in god knows how long(last I remember was Rusev when he got pops for using a boxing style on him,) and to top it all of it's a match with John Cena. Then it gets sidelined on a moments notice of a rewrite. I'm glad he can take it the way he does and make jokey joke videos for youtube and the website about it and he's still getting paid. But that has to hurt inside. Heath jobbed to a dwarf in a bull costume and it was very clear, even around kayfabe, that he thought it was and would be the greatest moment of his life. he's right and it would be of yours, too I doubt very seriously Slater gives a single solitary poo poo about anything involving prestige and is just there to have fun. If he does have any problem with it, it's probably disappointment at not being able to get out there and entertain. I mean I don't know the man personally, I'm just making guesses based on what little I've heard about him backstage and how earnest he is in kayfabe. But still. Chokes McGee fucked around with this message at 05:41 on Oct 1, 2015 |
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Oct 1, 2015 05:39
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Luigi Thirty posted:Cena merch accounts for something ridiculous like 10% of annual revenue. This is probably not anywhere close to accurate. All WWE consumer products combined accounted for 14% of revenue last year. edit: I know this post is extra 'spergy but I had WWE's latest 10-k close at hand for a college course. Retromancer fucked around with this message at 05:46 on Oct 1, 2015 |
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Oct 1, 2015 05:43
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Big Coffin Hunter posted:crazy to think punk beat his merch sales mid 2011 and they pissed that all away thats why they did
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Oct 1, 2015 05:46
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St Evan Echoes posted:Table For 3: Foochs Thinks A World Title Is Just Around The Corner For These Guys And It's Heartbreaking edition Only Dean. But I will not give up or waver.
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Oct 1, 2015 06:15
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Luigi Thirty posted:Cena merch accounts for something ridiculous like 10% of annual revenue. On one hand that sounds absurd and made up On the other, Cena
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Oct 1, 2015 06:22
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From the Cageside Seats rumor section so take this with a boulder of salt, but uh, this sure is something:quote:Here's a super fun rumor: Apparently Big Van Vader has been offered $5000 to do a shoot fight in the US sometime this month.
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Oct 1, 2015 06:41
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Luigi Thirty posted:Cena merch accounts for something ridiculous like 10% of annual revenue. REVENUE!
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Oct 1, 2015 06:42
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Benne posted:From the Cageside Seats rumor section so take this with a boulder of salt, but uh, this sure is something: Gotta make Trump look big to keep those poll numbers up.
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Oct 1, 2015 06:43
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Niwrad posted:Does Cena's merchandise sales really drop if he loses a match clean once in awhile? I thought that was an excuse that was used for him never losing. Basically despite one of his big catchphrases being "Never Give Up," Cena fans absolutely will give up the very moment he loses because kids are amazingly fickle and Cena's appeal is that he's the best and can beat up everyone all the time. At this point I generally think of the ending of the "Stanley's Cup" episode of South Park whenever this comes up - just with a cancer kid saying "I hate you, John Cena" before passing away.
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Oct 1, 2015 07:24
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Oh Snapple! posted:Basically despite one of his big catchphrases being "Never Give Up," Cena fans absolutely will give up the very moment he loses because kids are amazingly fickle and Cena's appeal is that he's the best and can beat up everyone all the time. has this ever actually been tested has Cena ever lost clean to anyone and then spent multiple months building up to a rematch where he finally overcame the odds, and did it impact his merch sales in any way
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Oct 1, 2015 07:49
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Oh Snapple! posted:Basically despite one of his big catchphrases being "Never Give Up," Cena fans absolutely will give up the very moment he loses because kids are amazingly fickle and Cena's appeal is that he's the best and can beat up everyone all the time. Just like they gave up on John Cena when he lost to Brock Lesnar.
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Oct 1, 2015 07:51
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John Cena could join ISIS and the babbies would still cheer for him.
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Oct 1, 2015 07:54
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Kid me pretty much gave up on WCW until the final Nitro when Sting lost the belt to Savage (who lost it the next night to Hogan) so WWE is right to be worried that kid fans will go find something else to do, and a different hero to worship.
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Oct 1, 2015 08:08
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Luigi Thirty posted:We are in a post-wins-and-losses world. Welcome, gentlemen.
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Retromancer posted:The rumor was that the Cena/Owens rematch was booked after Cena's sales dropped like 2% after losing to Owens despite the fact that it boosted Owens sales even more. This still pisses me off because it flies in the face of logic. If Cena loses a match to say Big Show and his sales drop, then that would be cause for concern because nobody is going to buy a Big Show shirt. In the case of Owens, though, the sales directly transferred to the guy who won. It's not like Cena shirts turn more profit per shirt. In fact, if Cena only dipped 2% and Owens skyrocketed, they might have made more money by having Cena lose. Having multiple revenue streams is not a problem. The whole scenario just speaks to the myopic view of a company run with an iron fist by a senile steroid abuser.
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