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We need some info one this new suit. History Time!  In UC 0074 the Zeonic Company's YMS-05 Zaku was accepted by Zeon as its first Mass Production Combat Mobile Suit. However it had competition from three other designs. One of these was the EMS-04 Zudah, designed by Zimmand Company (who would later design the Dom, Gogg, and Gyan). While the Zaku was a solid and balanced design, the Zudah was considerably faster than it thanks to the use of a prototype engine, called the Mercury. For a while it seemed like the EMS-04 was going to win the competition, until on multiple occasions Zudah prototypes suffered engine malfunctions, killing their test pilots. At full throttle the Mercury would sometimes become unstable, causing the Zudah to break apart in flight. Thanks to this, and successful lobbying by Zeonic Company, the MS-05 Zaku was selected for mass production instead. Now, in light of the impending threat of Federation Mobile Suits, Zimmand Company has pulled this design back out of the garage. Apparently they've not only fixed the breakup problem, but say the new and improved Saturn engine will propel the improved EMS-10 Zudah to even faster speeds. They've also updated the mobile suits armament to take advantage of the latest in Zeonic's MS weaponry Arsenal. Personally I say No to the Zudah. That said, I'm far more interested in Zimmand's YMS-08 High Mobility Prototype, but unfortunately that lost a design competition to the YMS-07 Gouf. Maybe they should rework that instead and bring it back to us, I think it has some potential.  EMS-10 Zudah 
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Sacrifice a respectably decent ace so we can develop a flying deathtrap? I say thee, Nay! There are other weapons we can use to deal with Gundam-related messes. Like Gelgoogs. They need pilots, though... and I'd rather we not lose even one to develop the freakin' Zudah.
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Jan 18, 2014 06:58
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 This guy is a pretty decent pilot too.
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Jan 18, 2014 07:01
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Voting no , we only have so much time, money, and resources and I don't want any of that spent on what amounts to a faster more fragile zaku
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Jan 18, 2014 07:19
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No Speed isn't everything. I know this personally, I'm a Raiders fan. Unless we're making a Madden football team featuring Mobile Suits, in which case YES 
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Jan 18, 2014 07:55
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It's the only shield using space-capable MS you'll have for a long while, but space isn't the important battlefield. For the foreseeable future, the ships you started with will probably be fine. I say No.
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Jan 18, 2014 07:57
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I'm not nearly as big of a fan of the Zudah as I am the Hildolfr, but I'll still say Yes because it sounds like it'd make a decent ace suit.
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Jan 18, 2014 08:00
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Jegan posted:It's the only shield using space-capable MS you'll have for a long while, What, the Zaku's right shoulder plate doesn't count as a shield?
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Jan 18, 2014 08:01
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No, suck it Zudah you piece of poo poo
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Jan 18, 2014 08:16
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gently caress NO
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Jan 18, 2014 08:16
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Galaga Galaxian posted:What, the Zaku's right shoulder plate doesn't count as a shield? Unfortunately not. The Prototype-Gouf is the only current MS that has a shield.  That second Special Data that indicates shield use.
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Jan 18, 2014 08:17
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No,the zudah looks dumb.
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Jan 18, 2014 08:17
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No, that thing looks kind of boring.
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Jan 18, 2014 08:20
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Continuing my vote for 'gently caress IGLOO' no
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Jan 18, 2014 08:22
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Jegan posted:Unfortunately not. That seems pretty dumb, the Zaku's shoulder plate is used as a shield all the time in the anime.
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Jan 18, 2014 08:22
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I say thee nay That suit isn't ridiculous enough to cost us a pilot, and considering the clip of how the Punchtank's pilot died, I doubt this test pilot can die awesomely enough to match that.
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Jan 18, 2014 08:25
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Yes, because the Zudah is cool as hell, gently caress the haters. 
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Jan 18, 2014 08:38
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Isn't the Zudah the suit that went so fast it tore itself apart and exploded? Because that's pretty metal. Get one
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Jan 18, 2014 08:43
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Night10194 posted:I say thee nay https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPfE_IXAcVk At 52 seconds.
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Jan 18, 2014 08:44
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Don't let that sway you. He dies for a bitch reason
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Jan 18, 2014 10:08
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The Zudah is nice when you first get it, but does it really do anything the Zaku IIR1A can't do well enough in it's stead? (this is one of the Zaku variants that hasn't been researched yet, but is available; it's basically a slightly better Zaku for space only use).
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Jan 18, 2014 11:53
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It has a speed of 10 versus an average speed for all others of 6? Just turn everything else into Char Customs, so they have a speed of 18. Problem solved. No.
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Jan 18, 2014 12:04
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The Hidolfir was worth it because we gave up an ace to get a unit, and also deprive them of an ace. This is just expending an ace to get a unit. No.
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Jan 18, 2014 12:24
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We're getting new mobile suits as it is, and a fragile speedster consuming our resources isn't going to hold a candle to the V Project. Definitely No.
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Jan 18, 2014 12:27
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Tell Zimmand to get back to work on the Dom, which isn't a useless deathtrap. No.
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Jan 18, 2014 13:49
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I vote No, the Zudah isn't worth it.
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Jan 18, 2014 14:49
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Get another Zeon ace killed? Yes please.
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Jan 18, 2014 16:25
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no. We do need need the sonic the hedgehog mecha
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Jan 18, 2014 17:44
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TheLastRoboKy posted:Get another Zeon ace killed? Yes please. Hey, man, what do you have against our noble and totally not at all whacko militarist genocide space Hitler brave defenders of Zeon?
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Jan 18, 2014 17:45
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No unless you think you got a use for it.
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Jan 18, 2014 17:56
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This is much harder than the Hildolfr. If you think you'd get any use out of it, NO. If this is just going to be an expensive failure, then YES.
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Jan 18, 2014 18:10
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No, when space becomes more of an issue we'll have better stuff anyway. While we're hanging with the 603rd, does Monique Cadillac show up as a pilot in her totally-not-like-Char red jacket?
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Jan 18, 2014 18:16
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If we get something to research after it then sure, but if it is a dead-end research then No, it's not worth it.
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Jan 18, 2014 18:34
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Galaga Galaxian posted:Apparently they've not only fixed the breakup problem, but say the new and improved Saturn engine will propel the improved EMS-10 Zudah to even faster speeds. In reality they had made no such improvements, they just said that to try and get the suit used. That said, if we don't get the Zudah than we can't get the rest of the 603rd events and get the Big Rang at the end.
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Jan 18, 2014 19:22
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Khisanth Magus posted:In reality they had made no such improvements, they just said that to try and get the suit used. Are you saying Zimmand would lie to us?
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Jan 18, 2014 19:37
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Well, the Zeon are space nazis so turning down a chance to develop a prototype unit that is expensive, of dubious value and will probably kill the test pilot is completly against their philosophy. I vote Yes.
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Jan 18, 2014 19:47
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I vote No. That ace could be useful in the future and I don't think we need that moving space coffin.
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Jan 18, 2014 20:08
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Going to vote NO again. I voted against the Hildolfr before knowing what it was capable of, but this time we're better informed. Seeing other units this development leads to would be nice, but I'd rather see you win, and this looks like it's simply faster, less-armored, more-expensive Gundam fodder than the standard Zaku. Plus it's useless on the surface, where you need to be concentrating your efforts at the moment; you have space locked down for the time being. Tell Zimmand to get back to you when they have something better, like the Dom.
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Jan 18, 2014 20:12
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Yes, if you think it would be useful.
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Jan 18, 2014 20:22
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YES I want to see the entire crazy tech tree!
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