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IBentMyWookie posted:That's simple they aren't friends. Really? Who's holding a grudge, there? They're kids, for heaven's sake.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Oh, BTW, I'm referring to Pete having zero lines after he's saved by Clark. Why? Are we supposed to think his creepy, beatific smile and eternal loyalty to Clark is some kind of desirable thing? I'm being 100% serious about that - why does he have no lines at all? Pete Ross is supposed to be one of his best friends from Smallville, does he just not rate? We're shown Clark interacting with Lana and its clear there's some attraction. We then see Pete do something friendly for Clark. This is all we're given but it should be enough, just like Clark begging Zod to stop and then falling to his knees with tears in his eyes should be enough to show that he didn't have a great fun time with the whole thing. We don't know what the depth of friendship Pete had with Clark, but he clearly had good things to say about him when Lois found him years later as seen by the fact that she had the compassion to drop such a huge story.
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Jul 1, 2013 03:46
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Really? Who's holding a grudge, there? They're kids, for heaven's sake. They are just written to not be friends. Clark has no childhood friends in this reboot. We can only assume that Jimmy and Lois will be his first friends.
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Jul 1, 2013 03:47
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Thirty year old man with no friends and unlimited power. Just trust him, guys.
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Jul 1, 2013 03:49
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Thirty year old man with no friends and unlimited power. Just trust him, guys. Yeah it's not like he clearly says that Lois is his friend when his mother asks about her.
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Jul 1, 2013 03:50
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ghostwritingduck posted:We don't know what the depth of friendship Pete had with Clark, but he clearly had good things to say about him when Lois found him years later as seen by the fact that she had the compassion to drop such a huge story. Well him saving her life had something to do with it. That and he threatened to disappear again anyway so really not much she could accomplish with the story other than second hand accounts. Pete did not show friendship maybe gratitude but really there is no friendship expressed. If helping to pick someone up after they get knocked down is a symbol of friendship that is the saddest thing I've ever heard.
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Jul 1, 2013 03:51
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Rhyno posted:Yeah it's not like he clearly says that Lois is his friend when his mother asks about her. His first friend! He's coming up in the world.
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Jul 1, 2013 03:52
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:His first friend! He's coming up in the world. Everyone Lois talked to about him during her investigation seemed to have nothing but good to say about him as well and could easily be counted as his friends.
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Jul 1, 2013 03:56
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Martha is his friend. That's all the friends he'll ever need.
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Jul 1, 2013 03:58
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ChikoDemono posted:Martha is his friend. That's all the friends he'll ever need. I bet she was his prom date too.
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Jul 1, 2013 04:02
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No Krypto The Super Dog is what sunk this film, clearly.
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Jul 1, 2013 04:02
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If we ignore that prequel tie-in thing, we can hope that Krypto was the one in the open pod and not Kara They should have just done a live action Krypto movie. Everyone loved the cartoon, right?
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Jul 1, 2013 04:05
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Rhyno posted:Everyone Lois talked to about him during her investigation seemed to have nothing but good to say about him as well and could easily be counted as his friends. Instead of showing us testimonials, they could've just shown Pete and Lara being his friends! They showed us an ad of people telling us how great Superman is. How is that "tone appropriate" or whatever?
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Jul 1, 2013 04:05
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Explain how that's a misread? Like I understand what I am meant to take from that scene, but in order to get the joke in the first place you have to see that it's a veiled threat. The joke is that he's a guy who could crush coal into diamonds with his bare hands, that he is a god and Lois is mortal. Ha ha, very funny. What the hell are you talking about? The line is "I think that only counts when kissing a human."
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Jul 1, 2013 04:06
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Rhyno posted:Everyone Lois talked to about him during her investigation seemed to have nothing but good to say about him as well and could easily be counted as his friends. MOS 2: A search for friends I think you just nailed what may be Clark's motivation.
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Jul 1, 2013 04:07
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Toady posted:What the hell are you talking about? The line is "I think that only counts when kissing a human." What's not to understand? The joke is that he is superior to a human. There are no diminishing returns because he is more than human.
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Jul 1, 2013 04:09
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:What's not to understand? The joke is that he is superior to a human. There are no diminishing returns because he is more than human. For her, yeah! For him, on the other hand, he's going to be more and more unhappy with their relationship with each passing day.
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Jul 1, 2013 04:10
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JediTalentAgent posted:For her, yeah! For him, on the other hand, he's going to be more and more unhappy with their relationship with each passing day. He could just think of Faora.
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Jul 1, 2013 04:12
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Oh, don't get me wrong, I'm sure when they have fights, Lois will shout at him, "Well, if I'm not good enough for you, why don't you go over and gently caress Faora. Oh, that's right..."
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Jul 1, 2013 04:14
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He could always find a way to become human like in Superman II.
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Jul 1, 2013 04:16
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:What's not to understand? The joke is that he is superior to a human. There are no diminishing returns because he is more than human. It looked like you were arguing about the line being "I have to be careful when kissing humans", talking about how the joke is that he's strong enough to crush coal into diamonds and harm Lois and whatnot.
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Jul 1, 2013 04:18
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ChikoDemono posted:He could always find a way to become human like in Superman II. And no trucker will mess with him for fear of their truck! Plus Zod is already taken care of. This plan cannot fail.
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Jul 1, 2013 04:18
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IBentMyWookie posted:Wait so you're assuming this was all premeditated and instead of Pete telling Clark beforehand, or somebody, he just goes to help pick up the pieces? It's a whole lot simpler to see the situation for what it was. Random bullying moment Pete was hanging with them and didn't want to be part of the sudden let's pick on Clark and then later helped him up because he felt bad. Well, it's as simple as looking at what's on screen, which shows that he wasn't with the other kids.
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Jul 1, 2013 04:20
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Toady posted:It looked like you were arguing about the line being "I have to be careful when kissing humans", talking about how the joke is that he's strong enough to crush coal into diamonds and harm Lois and whatnot. His joke is that he is superior to human beings.
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Jul 1, 2013 04:21
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Toady posted:Well, it's as simple as looking at what's on screen, which shows that he wasn't with the other kids. No it isn't there is no rational explanation of why he's there if he isn't with the other kids. It's outside a garage. Why is Pete there if he wasn't with the other kids? If he's there only for Clark who is sitting in a car reading a book then he's the biggest jackass cause he doesn't say a drat thing the entire scene. IBentMyWookie fucked around with this message at 04:27 on Jul 1, 2013 |
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Jul 1, 2013 04:23
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:His joke is that he is superior to human beings. Yes, I know.
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Jul 1, 2013 04:25
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IBentMyWookie posted:No it isn't there is no rational explanation of why he's there if he isn't with the other kids. It's outside a garage. Why is Pete there if he wasn't with the other kids? It's because Pete Ross is the Dexter of Smallville and they were getting close to his dumping site.
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Jul 1, 2013 04:30
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IBentMyWookie posted:No it isn't there is no rational explanation of why he's there if he isn't with the other kids. It's outside a garage. Why is Pete there if he wasn't with the other kids? Asked and answered.
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Jul 1, 2013 04:41
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Some of the readings of the film in this thread are hilarious. Really enjoying the Pete Ross interpretations. Keep 'em coming. 
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IBentMyWookie posted:No it isn't there is no rational explanation of why he's there if he isn't with the other kids. It's outside a garage. Why is Pete there if he wasn't with the other kids? Why would you think Pete is hanging out with those other kids? They were clearly jocks wearing jock jackets. Pete is obviously a nerd. In case you didn't know, nerds do not hang out with jocks at high school. There's no need for an explanation of why he's hanging around behind them, it's a small town, he sees a commotion, and goes over to see what's going on.
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Jul 1, 2013 04:49
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They were probably on their way home from school. Small town and all.
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Jul 1, 2013 04:50
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It's weird that a 30 plus year old is still in his "formative" years.
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Jul 1, 2013 04:54
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Oh, BTW, I'm referring to Pete having zero lines after he's saved by Clark. Why? Are we supposed to think his creepy, beatific smile and eternal loyalty to Clark is some kind of desirable thing? I'm being 100% serious about that - why does he have no lines at all? Pete Ross is supposed to be one of his best friends from Smallville, does he just not rate? Films frequently employ a technique wherewith actors indicate emotions without stating them outright, by depicting their respective characters' actions and demeanor in a corresponding fashion.
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Bongo Bill posted:Films frequently employ a technique wherewith actors indicate emotions without stating them outright, by depicting their respective characters' actions and demeanor in a corresponding fashion. Exactly! That it's on purpose makes it creepy.
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^^^Haha, ok.Grem posted:It's weird that a 30 plus year old is still in his "formative" years. It's kind of different when you realize you're an alien that was sent to Earth, without knowing why. The superpowers also complicate things a bit.
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Wandle Cax posted:Why would you think Pete is hanging out with those other kids? They were clearly jocks wearing jock jackets. Pete is obviously a nerd. In case you didn't know, nerds do not hang out with jocks at high school. There's no need for an explanation of why he's hanging around behind them, it's a small town, he sees a commotion, and goes over to see what's going on. Why is Pete a nerd? It is so loving weird that people cling to Pete being there by himself while all these other kids are there but not be part of the group of kids. It's like people are writing fanfics of Pete and Clark with nothing in the film to go on. Y'know just cuz. "No officer Pete Ross wasn't with us he was just trailing along behind us. That isn't with us, that's like not with us." Toady posted:
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Jul 1, 2013 05:08
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Since it's relevant to the film, Jesus Christ hasn't really done jack until his 30s.
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Jul 1, 2013 05:08
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He's 33, right? So pretty much Jesus' age - Bryan Singer strikes again!
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Jul 1, 2013 05:08
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IBentMyWookie posted:Why is Pete a nerd? It is so loving weird that people cling to Pete being there by himself while all these other kids are there but not be part of the group of kids. It's like people are writing fanfics of Pete and Clark with nothing in the film to go on. Y'know just cuz. Because it's what the movie shows on the screen.
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IBentMyWookie posted:Why is Pete a nerd? It is so loving weird that people cling to Pete being there by himself while all these other kids are there but not be part of the group of kids. It's like people are writing fanfics of Pete and Clark with nothing in the film to go on. Y'know just cuz. He's a nerd because he looks like one, since his character is not really developed it's mainly appearance cues. Again he was probably just wandering around town by himself or walking home when he saw a bunch of kids crowding around. It's a small town, why is that hard to understand?
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