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Regarding production, I have to point out that Calvin's factory production bonus is double that of Farecoal's (40% vs 20%), and that Calvin is the leading factory specialist in the UN. BGreman remarked in IRC a few days back that with the recent voidlift of munitions factories, Tranquility is now almost even in munitions production to Earth, with only 2/3rds of the weapons factories. Perhaps it'd be worth void-lifting enough construction factories to saturate Tranquility's job market so I can help soften the blow from the reallocation? I'm quite positive Tranquility would be capable of producing as many DSTS facilities as you'd need (presuming, of course, they can be moved). This, of course, would require some input from BGreman on how many more factories Tranq can even support. Or is that easy to look up on the raw viewer? On the note of production, BGreman, please terminate Eagle production on my colony and queue up 50 Mosquito-Bs instead. Coolguye fucked around with this message at 02:55 on Aug 22, 2013 |
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dogsarentdangerous posted:Well if theirs a choice I'll go with ground combat bonus with ground combat training rating as a tiebreaker. Thanks. Forgot to note in the last update that you'd been added as a ground forces officer. Saros posted:BG can the next update include a map showing the solar system out to the edge of the Survey points. I want to have a look at the current planetary positions.      TG ETEs as of 14th December 2034, 14:27 UTC
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Hang on a minute, what's that wreck doing around 2 Pallas? Last I checked, there hasn't been any military ships that have headed that way aside from that Moskva.
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Dr. Snark posted:Hang on a minute, what's that wreck doing around 2 Pallas? Last I checked, there hasn't been any military ships that have headed that way aside from that Moskva. It's Kabul.
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Well that actually explains a lot, then: they're most likely headed towards Survery Location 6 because it's within (or close to, not sure on scale) the Saturn cordon based on the planet's current position. Granted, the rule clarification about surveying already neutered concerns about intelligence failures, but this probably answers the remaining question of why 6 specifically. Edit: VVV Touche, there it is. At any rate, it's the survey location closest to their territory. Akratic Method fucked around with this message at 08:53 on Aug 22, 2013 |
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Akratic Method posted:Well that actually explains a lot, then: they're most likely headed towards Survery Location 6 because it's within (or close to, not sure on scale) the Saturn cordon based on the planet's current position. The scale is listed in the upper left of each image. In any case, Saturn's cordon is 200M km in radius. Survey Site #6 is 700M km from Saturn at present.
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bgreman posted:The debate about who will captain the first vessel to reach another star has gone on for some time at UNIN BuPers. Most analysts assumed that Captain Randall Veazey, famed explorer and ex-movie star would be in the command chair during the first jump. However, BuPers surprises everyone by announcing that rising star CAPT CthulhuDreams will have the honor. CthulhuDreams's crew training abilities have skyrocketed over the last year, thrusting him into the enviable position of being one of the first humans to lay eyes on another star up close. That is seriously cool - an honour even! Now to avoid dislocating my shoulder via overly vigorous congratulatory celebrations.
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FROM: Acting UNIN berryjon TO: UNEC, UNIN RE: JUMP PROCEDURE Ladies and Gentlemen of the United Nations; I write this not knowing when it will be revealed to you, but write it, I must. Today is an auspicious day in the annals of history. Today is the day when we set our feet on the path towards eternity. We have committed our pride, our money, our resources, the sweat of our brow to this endeavour. Today marks the launch of the UNS Alan Turing. Mister Turing, for those not up-to-date on their history, was a computer scientist in the last century who was a genius at computer programming, for whom the entire world owes a dept of untold gratitude. But he was persecuted for his personal beliefs. Ridiculed, mocked, barred from the work he loved, and driven to suicide for who he was. The Alan Turing is mankind's first home-built ship capable of FTL travel, and she launches today to carry forth that mission. We have named this ship, and all who follow, for those men and women of science who were all assailed and attacked for their beliefs, their nature, their work. This is our apology to them, to let their names be the ones to carry us into the final frontier, that they may see, through their spirit, the world that they have all created – and were denied in life. The Alan Turing will be joined by the UNS Berlin, UNS Warsaw, UNS Capetown, UNS Mombassa, UNS Busan, and the UNS Osaka, and head to rendezvous with the UNS Kagayan and the UNS Klondike, where we will begin our exploration of those distant stars. Gentlemen, it has come to my attention that many of you feel that the Federation have some sort of advantage over us. They do not. We have earned this. They have not. Make Humanity proud, gentlemen. TO: UNS Alan Turing, UNS Berlin, UNS Warsaw, UNS Capetown, UNS Mombassam UNS Busan, UNS Osaka RE:: Orders Captains, form up and head for Jump Point One at a speed of 2700. Due to the urgency of the situation, the UNIN is lifting the restriction on the top speed you may have while in sight of Federation observation. If you are worried about our course giving away the location of JP1, then do not, as there is a good chance the Feds will assume you will change direction after leaving their sensor range. TO: UNS Cibola, UNS La Canela, UNS Shambala RE: Orders Captains, make best speed for the Turing and her escorts to support the Turing and her group in the exploration of Extra-solar systems. More orders to follow. TO: BC Void Shipyard RE: Construction Que Please construct one Turing (Naval Construction Contract name: Mukhopadhyay), followed by a Turing-Heavy (UNS Socrates). Thank you. ((And just because I'm an Alberta Boy doesn't give you guys the prerogative to do that again.)) TO: UNS Alan Turing, UNS Kagayan, UNS Klondike RE: Jump Orders Gentlemen, once you are all in position, Jump immediately. Don't dither, don't worry about anything else, just get to the other side. Once you're there, move away from the Jump Point at a speed of 500 for three hours, or until a Federation ship appears. At that time, go active and the Klondike will begin to survey the system and the Turing will return to the Jump Point and prepare to return to Sol (That report had better also include the name of the Star, so we can locate it on our maps!). The Kagayan will stay to escort the Klondike. After the Klondike has identified the major bodies in the system, and compiled a basic report, the Turing will Jump back to Sol to either head to JP2 and repeat the process, or to wait for the arrival of two more El Dorados to take to the new star system. In case of contact, do not shoot first, and attempt to open a dialogue as outlined in the FIRST CONTACT PROTOCOLS as included in the SOPs for all void ships since Gemini. berryjon fucked around with this message at 07:48 on Aug 22, 2013 |
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Finalised SWAC basic design.code:The Oceania shipyard should carry out Samar II -> IIB refits as fast as possible, I suggest banning any unrefit Samar II from entering overhaul while this process is ongoing to avoid having to wait on ships to come out of overhaul. After this we can begin tooling Oceania for either more Capetown production or a new class of destroyer sized vessel. I tried to build a Capetown sized Surigao style missile defense ship but the Sensors needed to detect missiles far enough out to fire a second PD volley (30 second reload S1 launcher) are prohibitively large. Capetown B variant design, has an improved sensor using modern tech (25 ton smaller, better resolution and range) and an extra magazine. Carries 13-14 missiles instead of 10 and can be built from a Capetown tooled shipyard. Still uses Duranium armor. Importantly the 25 resolution Arquebus II allows targeting of Moskva out to 21.6 million km. code:code:Saros fucked around with this message at 09:17 on Aug 22, 2013 |
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FROM: Commander Kal-L, UNS Cibola TO: All crewmembers RE: Where we're going, we won't need star-roads. This is it, people. Make sure to keep up with the Canela and Shambala. We're going to do this by the book. We don't know what we'll be facing on the other side of that Jump, so I hope everyone has finished reading the Would Contact with Extraterrestrials Benefit or Harm Humanity? A Scenario Analysis I'm not saying that we'll find some live aliens for sure, but it's better to be safe than sorry. Make full systems check for the survey sensors while we are en route. Then check again. 65 years ago, humanity took a small step into the universe. Today, we will make a giant leap into the great unknown, without fear or doubt. Let's roll.
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Women and men of the United nations and humanity. Today we make history. In the words of Jodie Foster. "OK to go." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=?scBY3cVyeyA
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FROM: Commander MrYenko, Commanding Officer, UNS Cebu TO: UNS La Canela Word on the Space-grape-vine is that you guys are going somewhere, soon. Good luck, and make me proud. (Also, there's six cases of good single malt scotch I stowed under the potable water tank back in engineering. I expect you to use your own judgement and celebrate PROPERLY.) MrYenko fucked around with this message at 11:29 on Aug 22, 2013 |
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I hope we get aliens.
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TildeATH posted:I hope we get aliens. Sexy aliens.
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Zeroisanumber posted:Sexy aliens. If we do how long will UNEC take to (i) publish its own version of UNBoy/Girl for a "PR win" or (ii) blame the Federation for it and attempt to declare war Seriously though, this thread is a damned good show. I jumped in at the Mars crisis, I just wish I could muster the stamina to read what happened before. Could I sign up for a void command when one next comes up?
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Zeroisanumber posted:Sexy aliens.  : Doc, could it be...? : Commander, leaving aside the astronomical impossibility that life in another system evolved into an humanoid form, the biological processes would be quite difficult to match. : Meaning?: Sexual activity with aliens could be a disgusting, potentially fatal affair.: Ooookay, then the standing orders are "not get too friendly with the aliens, no matter how hot they are".: I certainly don't want to go down in history as the first doctor to treat an extraterrestrial venereal disease, commander.
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Kal-L posted:
 : Kiff! Take a message, or a memo. Never mind, take both and then throw one away. : Yes sir!: Kiff, the doctor just informed me that our chances of finding aliens on the other side of the jump... thingie are astronomical.: Yes, sir. He thought it was so unlikely that we shouldn't be worried ab...: That's exactly where you're wrong mister!: Sir?: Astronomical refers to the universe, and the universe is what Kiff?: Vast and infinite, sir?: Exactly right, Kroaker. Our chances of meeting aliens are both vast and infinite. There could be a whole universe on the other side of the jump... hole that's nothing but aliens. Possibly sexy, sexy aliens.: Sir, even if that's true, we won't know until we get there.: What kind of military attitude is that, sold...seam...space-guy? We must be thoroughly prepared for anything we might find over there. Our terrible missiles will more than protect us from any Slime-men or Mutant Cabbage-headed aggressors, but what happens if we run into a planet of alien sex goddesses? Are the men at all prepared for thousands of bosoms heaving under distant alien suns? Suns which haven't seen a real man in an... astronomically long time?: There are only a dozen men on this ship. And half of those men are women!: Spare me your excuses, Kiff. Draw a bath and break my best pair of underwear out of storage. And prepare the men for the possibility of a sexual vista so vast and infinite that it may challenge their very concept of a "swingin' time".: *sigh* Yes, sir.: And Kiff? Don't spare the loofah this time. I want a very, very thorough scrub.
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Bravo, goonsir,  But my orders remain in place. If you feel like having intercourse with lizard/arachnid/octopus women is okay, I'm not judging. But don't expect me to support your paternity leave when you have to deal with the thousands of eggs inside your abdomen.
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Z the IVth posted:Could I sign up for a void command when one next comes up? You've been added. Earth: Low Earth Orbit, 14th December 2034 14:29 UTC   Shortly after Alan Turing comes off her slipway, she forms up with with the Berlin-class cruisers UNS Berlin and UNS Warsaw as well as the Cape Town-class destroyers UNS Busan, UNS Cape Town, UNS Mombasa, and UNS Osaka. UNIN HQ designates this formation as PIONEER. The overall commander for Operation PIONEER is CDRE Jaramr aboard UNS Berlin. Within minutes after the formation solidifies, it moves out of Earth orbit, making directly for jump point #1 at 2700 kps. The formation will rendezvous with UNS Kagayan (already on-scene) and UNS Klondike (ETE two days, four hours). Once assembled, Alan Turing, Kagayan, and Klondike will transit the jump point. This subformation, designated PIONEER DISTANCE, will have CAPT Cthulhu Dreams as its SO. At Callisto, the remaining three El Dorado-class survey vessels (under the code name PIONEER ZEUS) are dispatched toward jump point #1 at 2700 kps. They will arrive a day after the bulk of PIONEER. Meanwhile, BC Void Shipbuilding begins construction on another Turing-class jump scout, UNS Alfred Nobel. Earth: UNIN 1st Fleet HQ, Lausanne, 16th December 2034, 5:29 UTC  From: UNIN Intel Office To: UNEC Re: Federation Contacts Sirs, two interesting developments. The first is that the Federation has just launched another ship of an unknown class. We're provisionally designating her the Bengali, as that name was seen in an Federation yard assignment manifest that was forwarded to us. She broke orbit at 2900 kps, making directly for survey location #6. The other is that one of the Federation's Reka-class geosurvey vessels, which had long been idling at Titan, has broken orbit and is making for survey location #5 at 1838 kps (her theorized maximum speed). This is a puzzling development, as she is far too large to be transited by any suspected Federation jump tenders. UNS Klondike: Approaching Jump Point #1, 16th December 2034, 18:34 UTC  UNS Klondike arrives at the picket point 240,000 km from jump point #1 and enters formation with UNS Kagayan. They then settle in for the tense wait for Alan Turing Earth: UNIN 1st Fleet HQ, Lausanne, 17th December 2034, 7:49 UTC   From: UNIN Intel Office To: UNEC Re: Federation Contacts Sirs, the Bengali-class vessel has just dropped off our DSTS. We can no longer provide tracking for her and cannot predict her destination. Message ends Elsewhere, CMDR President of Tennis takes advantage of the fact that his ship, UNS Visayas, is under overhaul at Earth to get some quality time in on the Cape Town command simulators. The commander has high hopes of commanding one of the new destroyers. Task Group PIONEER: 240,000 km from Jump Point #1, 17th December 2034, 11:29 UTC  PIONEER arrives at the JP #1 picket site alongside UNS Kagayan and UNS Klondike. As the formation is reorganizing to prepare for the jump operation itself, a klaxon suddenly goes off on the bridge of UNS Berlin. "Sir!" calls the sensor officer. "We're detecting an active emission on our navigational EM sensor. Location ... directly on the jump point. Signature ...." The officer looks up at CDRE Jaramr, face ashen. "Sir, it's a BACK YARD." 
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bgreman posted:"Sir!" calls the sensor officer. "We're detecting an active emission on our navigational EM sensor. Location ... directly on the jump point. Signature ...." The officer looks up at CDRE Jaramr, face ashen. "Sir, it's a BACK YARD." Well, poo poo.
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Keep going with the jump! Don't stop here!
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gently caress it. JUMP!
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Clearly you've been betrayed by someone selling your secrets to the highest bidder. I wonder who that could be, and how many councillors will have egg on their faces. Or be revealed to have been working for another faction all along. Also, at this rate, the UN will be part of the Federation within a decade. If you don't have any advantages at all, you're just going to be a bit part in the history of the Federation's glorious conquest of the galaxy. I would advise planning a literal Scorched Earth stratagem, so society can start all over again and this time you can come out on top.
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Task Group PIONEER: 240,000 km from Jump Point #1, 17th December 2034, 11:30 UTC Thirty-five seconds later, as the formation continues to reorganize for the transit, PIONEER is hailed by an unknown Federation transmitter. "Attention UN vessels. The Federation is undertaking intensive deep space radiation tests at this location. Please back away to 15m km for your own safety. We cannot guarantee your safety if you do not comply." The transmission repeats every thirty seconds thereafter. 
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Aethernet posted:Clearly you've been betrayed by someone selling your secrets to the highest bidder. I wonder who that could be, and how many councillors will have egg on their faces. Or be revealed to have been working for another faction all along. Considering that we never gave any JPT-related secrets to Tilde (I'll just say it since I'm not afraid of implications) your theory is dumb as hell on its face.
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AHAHAHAHA the Federation is doing literally our plan except their execution isn't marred by catastrophically bad planning and preparation. e: and by 'our plan' I mean the one I've been trumpeting for I don't know how long.
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Triggerhappypilot posted:Keep going with the jump! Don't stop here! This is a dumb idea and will get our ship shot to poo poo before it ever gets to the JP.
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Aethernet posted:Clearly you've been betrayed by someone selling your secrets to the highest bidder. I wonder who that could be, and how many councillors will have egg on their faces. Or be revealed to have been working for another faction all along. I agree with this.
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Coolguye posted:Considering that we never gave any JPT-related secrets to Tilde (I'll just say it since I'm not afraid of implications) your theory is dumb as hell on its face.
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I've said it before a while back, and I'll say it again. When this is over, I'd love to get an "Aurora Declassified" writeup where some of this stuff gets explained behind the scenes. Like who really stole the duranium and how, what brought the Feds here, etc.Aethernet posted:Clearly you've been betrayed by someone selling your secrets to the highest bidder. I wonder who that could be, and how many councillors will have egg on their faces. Or be revealed to have been working for another faction all along. My other thought is still the ruins. Remember that JP1 came up in one of the installations we saw there. It's still possible the Feds don't know what is there, only suspected from ruins and saw that we were sending a fleet there (or had a picket there blaring away with active sensors; are those on or are we just hearing the BACKYARD pings?) so they decided to check it out. But yeah, it's either careful watching by them, or someone (or some computer network) leaked. The latter worries me, because there aren't many who knew about this. Edit because bgremen's still updating! Don't back away, obviously. Assure them we're confident in our radiation shielding. Akratic Method fucked around with this message at 21:54 on Aug 22, 2013 |
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FYI from IRC we are 239k km away from the JP. It will take 87 seconds at max speed to close that gap. We don't have a chance, we'd be destroyed before we even get close.
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drat good thing the worlds press are on board to watch Fred not shoot an unarmed exploration vessel.
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Aethernet posted:Actually, at this point I'm kind of assuming you're the mole, never mind Tilde. You did spend a lot of your youth drinking with Federation officials, as you've already admitted. Slavs know how to party, man. Also yeah, this is interesting. If we stand down and dicker with them, they win on accounts of delaying our plans. If they shoot up an entire task group of ours that's a serious problem for them back on Earth for the same reason shooting up the Lictor STARTED to become a problem for them prior to us getting cocky and engaging in a naval battle we couldn't win. But if they welch on their threat, they still get it confirmed that there's a jump point there. It's kind of a no-lose situation for Fred unless they attack a bunch of unarmed ships. Perhaps start a conversation with them to see what they mean by radiation experiments and the nature of what they're doing? They'll probably be tight-lipped but it costs nothing to talk.
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Diplomaticus posted:FYI from IRC we are 239k km away from the JP. It will take 87 seconds at max speed to close that gap. IF this is all of Federation BatDiv One, then this might be true. If this is a picket, then no, we can totally muscle it aside. Therefore, I'd like to request one of our pickets to conduct an active sweep of the area, so we actually know what we're dealing with.
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So, let's ping the crap out of them and see what we're dealing with. If they have their whole god drat Task Group minus the presumed jump ship on this side, I'd say we move on to the other two jump points and see what's behind doors 2 and 3 before heading back to see what's behind 1.
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Radiation tests, my rear end! They're just trying to buy time for when their ships arrive, and jump first! Decision time, people: either we jump now, or just stand there, letting the Feds be the first to jump.
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Watching our vessels pass through is useless to them, though. The Moskva doesn't possess the equipment necessary to pinpoint the wormhole - that can only be achieved with a grav survey vessel. Given that we've been betrayed by Coolguye (nice attempt at deflection there), we have until the Fed Grav Survey surveys the nearest points to the jump point, which is a matter of days at best because they've been pointed in the right direction. Full speed ahead.
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Aethernet posted:Watching our vessels pass through is useless to them, though. The Moskva doesn't possess the equipment necessary to pinpoint the wormhole - that can only be achieved with a grav survey vessel. Given that we've been betrayed by Coolguye (nice attempt at deflection there), we have until the Fed Grav Survey surveys the nearest points to the jump point, which is a matter of days at best because they've been pointed in the right direction. This is incorrect. A ship that has an active lock on a wormhole transit reveals the wormhole.
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Ceebees posted:This is incorrect. A ship that has an active lock on a wormhole transit reveals the wormhole. Well, I stand corrected. But still full speed ahead; you might as well pull the PR advantage of being first out of this, given that the Federation is going to win the best wormhole, and also history.
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Aethernet posted:Given that we've been betrayed by Coolguye (nice attempt at deflection there)
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