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Fyi for whoever posted that picture of Roosh: Dude got thrown in jail in Poland this weekend.
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ZergFluid posted:Fyi for whoever posted that picture of Roosh: Dude got thrown in jail in Poland this weekend. No he wasn't
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Nessa posted:Hahahaha.... The 20's are a woman's best years.... Yeah, I had to crack up at that, too. The best years are from 18-22.
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There is no such thing as top men or top women. People consider all kinds of different things attractive in a partner. You would see that very clearly if you had any kind of regular human interaction. There are just as many single women out there as men. Women are not nearly as shallow as you believe. It seems like you are the one with too high of standards because you feel women who are a 6 or less should just become nuns since even these poor grotesque bottom men won't be with them.
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lidnsya posted:There is no such thing as top men or top women. People consider all kinds of different things attractive in a partner. You would see that very clearly if you had any kind of regular human interaction. There are just as many single women out there as men. Women are not nearly as shallow as you believe. It seems like you are the one with too high of standards because you feel women who are a 6 or less should just become nuns since even these poor grotesque bottom men won't be with them. I am literally aghast that you would type this and reach this conclusion about what I've written. Jesus christ.
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Help, my Sex Number is 20, i can literally never gently caress
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ZergFluid posted:I am literally aghast that you would type this and reach this conclusion about what I've written. Jesus christ. It is part of your argument that more men must be definitionally single than women, because top men are taking way more of their "fair share" of women, leaving "lower ranked" men to settle for less, which inevitably leads the bottom rank of men to be sexless and miserable. So yeah you are saying more men are single than women, although that is clearly a manifest contradiction in terms (excluding homosexual relationships I guess?) You also believe that people can be objectively ranked in terms of desirability, as if there were some universal scale that everybody subscribes to.
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lidnsya posted:Also Forceholy it brings me no joy that people are lonely. I want to encourage people because I know what it's like to feel lonely and unwanted and depressed and undeserving. It's an awful way to live. Spiffo posted:I said it before and I'll say it again Having hobbies and being a well-adjusted individual doesn't necessarily mean that you'll get a partner or sex. There are plenty of posters here who have active, fulfilling lives who have never been laid.
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lidnsya posted:There is no such thing as top men ... poor grotesque bottom men won't be with them. Actually, aren't top gay men actually less desired than bottoms? How does sex rank theory account for that?
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Jeza posted:It is part of your argument that more men must be definitionally single than women, because top men are taking way more of their "fair share" of women, leaving "lower ranked" men to settle for less, which inevitably leads the bottom rank of men to be sexless and miserable. Not necessarily. It's possible that the number of singles in both genders is the same when you consider all age ranges, but the male peers of women in their 20s face pressure from men in their 30s and 40s for those same women, since, as I said before, younger women are seen as more attractive.
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Civic Dare posted:Help, my Sex Number is 20, i can literally never gently caress Edit:Wait, gently caress, this is probably why I'm still a virgin. Sardonik fucked around with this message at 05:18 on Mar 3, 2014 |
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Forceholy posted:
"poo poo! I bettered my life, improved my health, made new friends, had great life experiences, and no one will gently caress me! It was all a waste!" So maybe this stuff won't get you laid. But it will make you more desirable to other people. With more life experiences, you have more to talk about. Also, it gets you used to more social situations. You can't try these new things with the explicit purpose of "I'm doing this to get laid". Do it to meet new people, because you never know who people know.
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Sardonik posted:In D&D terms you just rolled a critical sex. I have never had an opportunity to tap Sex Mana in Magic: The Gathering, which might be why I am still a virgin. I need to contact the developers to add a sixth "sexy" color for desperate losers like me.
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I dunno bro, I'm feeling a lot of pressure from the 30 and 40 year old Magic the Gathering players right now...
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ZergFluid posted:Not necessarily. It's possible that the number of singles in both genders is the same when you consider all age ranges, but the male peers of women in their 20s face pressure from men in their 30s and 40s for those same women, since, as I said before, younger women are seen as more attractive. The reverse is true as well though. Older women are hooking up with younger men. But that doesn't count to you since older or less physically attractive women don't count as potential sex partners. Which is not the case in the real world.
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CowboyAndy posted:I dunno bro, I'm feeling a lot of pressure from the 30 and 40 year old Magic the Gathering players right now... It's because they have all these rare, high power, expensive cards, which these materialistic by-tches love.
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lidnsya posted:older or less physically attractive women don't count as potential sex partners. Which is not the case in the real world. Yeah, in the real world, they're not even people. 
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lidnsya posted:The reverse is true as well though. Older women are hooking up with younger men. But that doesn't count to you since older or less physically attractive women don't count as potential sex partners. Which is not the case in the real world. No, I most certainly do not think it would count if these virginal men who have posted in this thread had gotten laid by real 60 year old women (not that human nature is such that these grandmas wopuld want to be sleeping with youngsters anyway. These two groups repel each other sexually.) As for the part where you say that I think "less attractive women don't count as potential partners," then, once again, consider me puzzled that you could reach this conclusion from what I've written.
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lidnsya posted:The reverse is true as well though. Older women are hooking up with younger men. But that doesn't count to you since older or less physically attractive women don't count as potential sex partners. Which is not the case in the real world. You can't expect young men to go for these  lower-quality women, you see.
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ZergFluid posted:Not necessarily. It's possible that the number of singles in both genders is the same when you consider all age ranges, but the male peers of women in their 20s face pressure from men in their 30s and 40s for those same women, since, as I said before, younger women are seen as more attractive. Yes, but in practice the average age differential for dating and marriage is only around 3 years. You are blind if you think 30-40 year old guys dating college students and young 20-somethings make up a statistically relevant proportion of the population. Nobody is being crowded out of sex except in places like Dubai. Even if we take your dumbass theory, then there should be a (can't believe I'm saying this) a gap in the "market" for younger guys to be dating older women (apparently over 30, ladies) who essentially get no sex at all or something in your theory, unless they were already partnered off like good little girls.
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EN Bullshit posted:Yeah, in the real world, they're not even people. quote:You can't expect young men to go for these lower-quality women, you see. Looks like it's another round of strawmanning.
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ZergFluid posted:I'm posting in this thread to offer a perspective on the plight of virginal men that's more nuanced than the cackling from those eager to entirely blame the men themselves for failing this way. Basically what you people are doing is PLEADING not to even consider that perspective. As one of those virginal men, gently caress off. This is like white knighting, except it's worse because your attempts to "help" are saying that we're a bunch of losers rolling in the mud that are powerless to help ourselves against big mean societies. Yes, some/many of us are hosed up or have been hosed up, but no matter how much you may insist otherwise, we're still responsible for our actions. You're an rear end for suggesting otherwise. On a less serious note, how the hell does this sex ladder thing work anyways? I mean the darn thing could tip over at any moment from that kind of stress and someone could get hurt. Really though if you want to rank women/men at all you only need four states: the combinations provided by the questions, "Do I think they're cute" and "are they interested in me". By combining the two answers to these simple questions, you too can know exactly where you stand with that person romantically!
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The only way to stop worrying about sex with women is by becoming gay. Hope this helps you as much as it has helped me.
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ZergFluid posted:No, I most certainly do not think it would count if these virginal men who have posted in this thread had gotten laid by real 60 year old women (not that human nature is such that these grandmas wopuld want to be sleeping with youngsters anyway. These two groups repel each other sexually.) You cannot seriously believe this. These kinds of relationships have been becoming way more popular in recent years, especially as more older women are becoming independently wealthy and would like to be with men who have more sexual stamina than some of the men in their own age range.
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ArfJason posted:The only way to stop worrying about sex with women is by becoming gay. Hope this helps you as much as it has helped me. I have an appointment to turn myself gay on Tuesday. Will report back on results
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Jeza posted:Yes, but in practice the average age differential for dating and marriage is only around 3 years. You are blind if you think 30-40 year old guys dating college students and young 20-somethings make up a statistically relevant proportion of the population. They don't need to regularly be dating very younger women, just partially competing with younger men for the sex/attention of younger women. This group of older males no doubt sees younger women as being being fair game. Part of the problem in in the sexual marketplace between men and women is how "single" means differently for men and women in their 20s. A guy who is "single" in his 20s does not have a great deal of options for sex other than, as some here have suggested, going to bars and hitting on very low sex ranked women, a prospect that might strike the guy as unthinkable if the disparity in sex rank is too severe. For a single woman in her 20s, on the other hand, "single" means "still having the option of getting sex with multitude of men either more or less attractive than myself." And the men she can select for casual relationships are men from the age ranges of 20 to 40. ZergFluid fucked around with this message at 05:47 on Mar 3, 2014 |
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lidnsya posted:You cannot seriously believe this. These kinds of relationships have been becoming way more popular in recent years, especially as more older women are becoming independently wealthy and would like to be with men who have more sexual stamina than some of the men in their own age range. Let me put this delicately: Men are not programmed to want to gently caress grandmas.
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ZergFluid posted:Let me put this delicately: Men are not programmed to want to gently caress grandmas. You think people are programmed.
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Forceholy posted:Having hobbies and being a well-adjusted individual doesn't necessarily mean that you'll get a partner or sex. There are plenty of posters here who have active, fulfilling lives who have never been laid. Yeah, that post was for jane specifically. Once you go down that rabbit-hole and start blaming the Sexual Marketplace™ for your problems, you're screwed. I started down that path myself and it just led to bitterness and anger (not to mention the smug "I understand how the world works, refute me" poo poo you're seeing here). It makes for a miserable lonely existence, and I'd hate for other virgoons in this thread to get dragged down with him, blaming the world and social dynamics and evolution and god knows what else instead of looking inward, doing some introspection and becoming a better person.
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Ugly and socially retarded women in their 20s have just as hard a time attracting partners. If neither these women nor the grotesque men are willing to be with someone at their own "low level" then they either need to improve themselves or accept being alone. Oh and women are not programmed to be with older men either. What dumb biotruths sense does it make for a woman to be with someone who is less capable of giving her sperm and who will die way before her. lidnsya fucked around with this message at 05:52 on Mar 3, 2014 |
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ZergFluid posted:A guy who is "single" in his 20s does not have a great deal of options for sex other than, as some here have suggested, going to bars and hitting on very low sex ranked women, a prospect that might strike the guy as unthinkable if the disparity in sex rank is too severe. For a single woman in her 20s, on the other hand, "single" means "still having the option of getting sex with multitude of men either more or less attractive than myself. welp it's been a blast gonna go to bed, maybe have sex to help me try forget you exist
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ZergFluid posted:Let me put this delicately: Men are not programmed to want to gently caress grandmas. 10 gently caress HB>7 20 GOTO 10
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FoolyCharged posted:On a less serious note, how the hell does this sex ladder thing work anyways? I mean the darn thing could tip over at any moment from that kind of stress and someone could get hurt. This man used to be a prime specimen before he fell off the sex ladder 
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ZergFluid posted:Let me put this delicately: Men are not programmed to want to gently caress grandmas. Why are you saying that any woman over 30 is a grandma? Have you never heard of cougars?
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Ootrek posted:10 gently caress HB>7 I have developed a bot in python that checks the Sexual Market Exchange site and through geolocation seeks and fucks the women that are falling in price, then sells for profit.
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ArfJason posted:I have developed a bot in python that checks the Sexual Market Exchange site and through geolocation seeks and fucks the women that are falling in price, then sells for profit. I hope that one day I can finally enter people into the NASDAQ.
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lidnsya posted:Ugly and socially retarded women in their 20s have just as hard a time attracting partners. If neither these women nor the grotesque men are willing to be with someone at their own "low level" then they either need to improve themselves or accept being alone. Women who have a hard time attracting partners are most likely women who are physically disfigured or mentally unstable in a substantial way, because the current sexually libertarian marketplace, combined with the fact that prostitution is prohibited and discouraged, inflates the sexual value of pre-menopausal women. quote:Oh and women are not programmed to be with older men either. What dumb biotruths sense does it make for a woman to be with someone who is less capable of giving her sperm and who will die way before her. There is no equivalence between a woman who has become infertile with age and an old man who still produces sperm and can still shoot it, however less virile he might be compared to his younger self. A grandpa can still easily impregnate a 20 year old woman. A 20 year old man cannot impregnate a 60 year old woman no matter how hard he tried. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST) (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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ZergFluid posted:Let me put this delicately: Men are not programmed to want to gently caress grandmas.  This woman is the most searched pornstar in the world. She's 42. I'm not even going to get into older mainstream actresses who are considered attractive by all kinds of guys.
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