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GreatGreen posted:I hope so. I haven't bought it yet and I don't want a disc copy. Konami help chat was nice enough to let me know that while they obligatory not sure why it was removed explanation that it would not be returning to playstation now. Since it's being sold on the psn store for PS3.
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Timby posted:I think there's got to be at least one more game before we get to this point, because TPP seems to be about Big Boss becoming a crazed warlord and probably establishing Outer Heaven, and given that a Metal Gear remake has to have Big Boss employed by America as FOXHOUND's commander, I don't think they can pack all that in without the story becoming incredibly bloated / using some crazy time jumps. That seems like something that could be easily tied into the story. I mean he's supposed to be a secret crazy warlord, so presumably there'll be a third party bad guy pulling some bad poo poo and Big Boss will be roped into working with the US government to stop them but will instead be secretly worming his way into the echelons of power again in order to enact bloody vengeance on those who destroyed his first base and would stop him from building Outer Heaven. Hell, i bet the last scene is going to be him accepting the promotion to run a special fox unit for the government and the after credits vocal snippet will be discussing the cloning project.
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Jan 8, 2015 00:44
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After the credits, there will be a stinger where Big Boss is waiting to be introduced to this really promising recruit for FOXHOUND. A young Green Beret with a bandanna and a cigarette runs up to BB and says "Kept you waiting, huh?" Subtitle: SOLID SNAKE (Richard Doyle)
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Jan 8, 2015 00:51
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This reminds me - for some reason, I haven't been able to knock people out or break cameras with the magazines despite seeing video of others doing it. I have no idea what I'm doing wrong.
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Jan 8, 2015 01:26
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TheMaestroso posted:This reminds me - for some reason, I haven't been able to knock people out or break cameras with the magazines despite seeing video of others doing it. I have no idea what I'm doing wrong. Have to do it while spotted in Reflex Mode and before setting off an alert.
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Jan 8, 2015 01:32
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TheMaestroso posted:This reminds me - for some reason, I haven't been able to knock people out or break cameras with the magazines despite seeing video of others doing it. I have no idea what I'm doing wrong. I don't think you can disable cameras, but what Vic Boss said. You can only knock out guards with magazines if you hit them in the head during that brief moment before they call an alert. That means it DOES work without reflex, you just have to time your throws before they turn around, making it functionally useless. What you might have seen is videos of people hacking the game up and changing the weapon values around. I believe Nakar made/shared a video of some super power magazines.
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Jan 8, 2015 02:12
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Kiggles posted:I don't think you can disable cameras, but what Vic Boss said. You can only knock out guards with magazines if you hit them in the head during that brief moment before they call an alert. That means it DOES work without reflex, you just have to time your throws before they turn around, making it functionally useless. I saw someone running around throwing magazines in Reflex Mode and insta-KOing dudes and cameras months ago. As in, before a PC version that could be hacked was even officially announced.
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Jan 8, 2015 02:16
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Personally i'm looking forward to the end credits stinger in which major zero buries the hatchet, and offers snake a cushy position in american politics. Metal gear solid V's arabic numeral finally fades in. METAL GEAR SOLIDV5
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Jan 8, 2015 02:23
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I hope there is a camera mechanic so that they can bring back the ghosts from the previous games that had cameras, just so that they can make the pun in the achievement title for getting all of em be "The Phantom Pain in the rear end".
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Jan 8, 2015 02:24
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Funky Valentine posted:After the credits, there will be a stinger where Big Boss is waiting to be introduced to this really promising recruit for FOXHOUND. A young Green Beret with a bandanna and a cigarette runs up to BB and says "Kept you waiting, huh?" Well Eli is probably a 12 year old Liquid and I don't think the US Army recruits at that age.
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Jan 8, 2015 02:37
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Bedshaped posted:Well Eli is probably a 12 year old Liquid and I don't think the US Army recruits at that age. Don't the clones age super fast though (which is why Snake is so old in 4 as compared to everyone else) so even though he is '12' it means he would be well within serving age? Or is he 12 at this time even with the faster aging.
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Jan 8, 2015 03:06
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moosecow333 posted:Don't the clones age super fast though (which is why Snake is so old in 4 as compared to everyone else) so even though he is '12' it means he would be well within serving age? Or is he 12 at this time even with the faster aging. The aging speeds up as they get older as explained in MGS4 IIRC. They aged normally for a while.
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Jan 8, 2015 03:11
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Terminally Bored posted:- the animation is top notch for the most part but they really should do something about landing. Snake doesn't even stop after jumping from any height, he literally hits the ground running. Looks funny. On this, if you stand still after a drop, Snake has a whole deal with returning to whichever stance you're in, it's pretty cool. He's just also able to hit the ground running because he's Big Boss.
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Jan 8, 2015 03:32
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There is a directional mic in the binoculars, some of the help chatter talks about it.
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Jan 8, 2015 03:37
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Bedshaped posted:Well Eli is probably a 12 year old Liquid and I don't think the US Army recruits at that age. According to the Metal Gear wiki, Solid Snake was "inducted into the Green Berets as a teen," and given the scope and scale of TPP, it's not hard to believe the story could last a couple of years.
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Jan 8, 2015 03:40
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ImpAtom posted:The aging speeds up as they get older as explained in MGS4 IIRC. They aged normally for a while. Yeah, I'm pretty sure Snake wouldn't have been as surprised about being a clone if he let skip he was only 12 in his green beret days and people reacted accordingly. That said, Snake's implied to be suffering advanced aging symptoms even in MGS1, since a couple people straight up say that he looks a lot rougher than his age would imply.
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Jan 8, 2015 03:46
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Vic Boss posted:Have to do it while spotted in Reflex Mode and before setting off an alert. Is there any reason to slow-crouchwalk the last 5m to a guard when you can just aim and crouchwalk up to him for an instant holdup? Holdups seem to be equally as silent as a CQC grab, and an enemy will count as having noticed you if you crouchwalk up to CQC range at full speed but not if you hold them up.
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Jan 8, 2015 04:01
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mr. stefan posted:That said, Snake's implied to be suffering advanced aging symptoms even in MGS1, since a couple people straight up say that he looks a lot rougher than his age would imply. Pretty sure that's just commentary over the fact that he's been in retirement in Alaska after the stress of MG1 and MG2. Stress ages, and it plays more into the idea that he's full of PTSD type issues and the fact that he does his best to distance himself from the 'legend of Solid Snake' so to speak.
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Jan 8, 2015 04:23
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Yeah, I think in MGS1 Snake is referred to as haggardly and potentially out-of-practice thanks to the lonely years of drinking and slumming it in Alaska, not premature aging. It's only in MGS2 where it is specifically pointed out (by Liquid, in the Tanker) that he is aging poorly thanks to his genetics.
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Jan 8, 2015 05:05
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On the topic of aging, was Solidus born earlier or aged faster or something? He seemed much older than Snake in MGS2 and Eva only mentioned giving birth to Snake and Liquid...I think. I kinda blew through 2-4 pretty quickly so I probably missed something.
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Jan 8, 2015 05:12
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Born later and aged faster. Bonus Solidus since he's the best: Here's what Solidus was like in Liberia maybe. These are promo videos for Rising. In It For The Tank fucked around with this message at 05:25 on Jan 8, 2015 |
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Jan 8, 2015 05:15
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In It For The Tank posted:Born later and aged faster.
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Jan 8, 2015 05:34
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moosecow333 posted:Don't the clones age super fast though (which is why Snake is so old in 4 as compared to everyone else) so even though he is '12' it means he would be well within serving age? Or is he 12 at this time even with the faster aging. They age faster, but there's no reason to think they develop faster. They're separate processes entirely--real clones with advanced aging take just as long to grow up as non-clones.
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Jan 8, 2015 07:23
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Humerus posted:On the topic of aging, was Solidus born earlier or aged faster or something? He seemed much older than Snake in MGS2 and Eva only mentioned giving birth to Snake and Liquid...I think. I kinda blew through 2-4 pretty quickly so I probably missed something. Solidus refers to himself as a "well-balanced masterpiece," implying he had extra genefuckery done to him. I like to think that being president probably contributed to that. It is canon that Solid dies his hair; who knows he might be going grey in MGS2.
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Jan 8, 2015 09:52
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Solidus doesn't have gene fuckery done to him. He's a perfect/vanilla clone of Big Boss, as opposed to Liquid and Solid who had certain genetic traits expressed. But then he does have gene fuckery because he ages quickly. It's best to not expect anything Kojima writes to make even the slightest bit of sense. We do need a game where we play as Solidus, though. He is clearly the best Snake.
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Jan 8, 2015 14:08
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K8.0 posted:We do need a game where we play as Solidus, though. He is clearly the best Snake. I'm sure you mean second best Snake, after Naked Snake, right? Right?!
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Jan 8, 2015 14:11
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The deepest piece of knowledge I have about Metal Gear Solid lore is that it's funny to say the name of the game the Japanese way. Metadu Geedu Soridu lmao those crazy Japs, what will they think of next. GreatGreen fucked around with this message at 15:20 on Jan 8, 2015 |
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Jan 8, 2015 14:23
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K8.0 posted:Solidus doesn't have gene fuckery done to him. He's a perfect/vanilla clone of Big Boss, as opposed to Liquid and Solid who had certain genetic traits expressed. But then he does have gene fuckery because he ages quickly.
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Jan 8, 2015 16:04
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Nakar posted:They wanted a perfect clone of Big Boss, but they also wanted him to be President like, right now. I'm not sure how these two things work with each other, exactly, since a perfect clone wouldn't have rapid aging. poo poo, I don't even know why they needed him to be President at all if they already controlled everything important. Didn't they amend the Constitution to allow him to become President despite his young age?
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Jan 8, 2015 16:06
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MoreMetalBrian posted:Didn't they amend the Constitution to allow him to become President despite his young age? Why would they have to do that when they could just falsify his records? Nakar posted:They wanted a perfect clone of Big Boss, but they also wanted him to be President like, right now. I'm not sure how these two things work with each other, exactly, since a perfect clone wouldn't have rapid aging. poo poo, I don't even know why they needed him to be President at all if they already controlled everything important. Same reason the Les Enfantes Terribles project existed? To have a figurehead for the Patriots. I also think it might be so that they could string the public along by letting them believe that a good president is in charge despite him being a puppet of the Patriots.
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Jan 8, 2015 16:13
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ChaosArgate posted:Same reason the Les Enfantes Terribles project existed? To have a figurehead for the Patriots. I also think it might be so that they could string the public along by letting them believe that a good president is in charge despite him being a puppet of the Patriots.
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Jan 8, 2015 16:21
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The Patriots are Cipher and Cipher are BB's enemy in TPP and The Patriots want a figurehead that is a clone of their enemy. :kojima:
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Jan 8, 2015 16:25
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Jack Trades posted:I'm sure you mean second best Snake, after Naked Snake, right? Right?! If Naked Snake counts out as a Snake, then the best Snake is Raiden. 
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Jan 8, 2015 16:26
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In It For The Tank posted:If Naked Snake counts out as a Snake, then the best Snake is Raiden. Naked Snake. It's in the name.
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Jan 8, 2015 16:37
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Raiden was a Snake too. Once.
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Jan 8, 2015 16:41
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In It For The Tank posted:Raiden was a Snake too. Once. Yes, but Raiden never went back to being called Snake after getting a new codename.
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Jan 8, 2015 16:44
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Kojima seriously dropped the ball in not making Raiden's codename Whitesnake.
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Jan 8, 2015 16:51
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If only Kojima was as obsessed with western music as the JoJo guy.
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Jan 8, 2015 17:07
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Agnostalgia posted:They age faster, but there's no reason to think they develop faster. They're separate processes entirely--real clones with advanced aging take just as long to grow up as non-clones. While that is true, don't all of the Snakes have IQs of like, 190 or something ridiculous? I remember reading something in an old PlayStation magazine (the most legit of sources) that Solid Snake knew around 6 languages at a really early age and was basically a giant Mary Sue. Really, I just want to see (and throw empty magazines at) a young Solid Snake.
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Solid Snake has an IQ of 180. lol forever
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