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Oatgan posted:As a woman she couldn't help but feel empowered by Kimberly running over David Flair Isn't that a dream for all viewers?
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triplexpac posted:Just bring her along one Wednesday night as we delve into the wonders of 1999 WCW! The Filthy Animals and Buff Bagwell can turn even the most jaded person into a life long wrestling fan. Russo at his most Russo would be the 1999 Royal Rumble or the entire Beaver Cleavage storyline.
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Nov 25, 2011 21:36
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Rusty Shackelford posted:Russo at his most Russo would be the 1999 Royal Rumble or the entire Beaver Cleavage storyline. So since that is Russo with a filter of Vince
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Nov 25, 2011 21:40
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bobkatt013 posted:So since that is Russo with a filter of Vince You know, seeing the poo poo WWE has come up with since Russo left (Katie Vick, numerous attempts for incest angles, HLA), I'm convinced that whomever was filtering Russo, it sure as hell wasn't Vince.
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Nov 25, 2011 22:23
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Davros1 posted:You know, seeing the poo poo WWE has come up with since Russo left (Katie Vick, numerous attempts for incest angles, HLA), I'm convinced that whomever was filtering Russo, it sure as hell wasn't Vince. Don't forget, they came up with the idea for Mae Young to give birth to a hand AFTER Russo left because they didn't know how to end one of his storylines.
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Whatever dudes, HLA was awesome  I love Wikipedia: quote:Unforgiven 2002 – Where she played part in a "HLA" ("Hot Lesbian Action") theme that former WWE Raw manager Eric Bischoff built up around that PPV. Baker was taken out to the ring with Bischoff and a second "lesbian" and were scheduled to "perform" lesbianistic antics with Stephanie McMahon. However, it came to a close as Bischoff had other ideas.
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Nov 25, 2011 22:47
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Davros1 posted:You know, seeing the poo poo WWE has come up with since Russo left (Katie Vick, numerous attempts for incest angles, HLA), I'm convinced that whomever was filtering Russo, it sure as hell wasn't Vince. It was JR, for the most part, which was probably 80% of why he hated his Talent Relations job.
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Does it have to be Raw? Because I want to recommend Money In the Bank 2011.
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CombineThresher posted:It was JR, for the most part, which was probably 80% of why he hated his Talent Relations job. JR never really handled anything with creative. As the VP of Talent Relations, he dealt with contracts and was the middleman when someone got pissed about their role, and then he'd filter the complaints and communicate those issues to Vince. His big role was recruiting and keeping the talent happy. Johnny Ace is essentially doing the same job. JR and Ace have different hiring standards, though.
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Timby posted:JR never really handled anything with creative. Ross was on the booking team for either WCW or WWF, depending on where he was at a given time, for most of the 90s. I don't think he was ever sole booker anywhere but he was pretty well involved until Stephanie took over and the structure was turned into the abortion that exists today.
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Timby posted:JR never really handled anything with creative. As the VP of Talent Relations, he dealt with contracts and was the middleman when someone got pissed about their role, and then he'd filter the complaints and communicate those issues to Vince. His big role was recruiting and keeping the talent happy. It is easy to imagine how important that job is to the wrestlers who want an effective and understanding mediator who will actually voice their issues to the boss even if the person in that position knows that Vince won't want to hear it. In that regard, it's not just the hiring standards that make JR and Ace different and I'm sure any wrestler working for WWE would back up their preference for JR. That reminds of a story when Cornette was running OVW he had several issues with Johnny Ace for not being an effective communicator. On one occasion WWE was supposed to send Randy Orton down to OVW for a special booked appearance only for Cornette to find out the week of the event via phone by Tommy Dreamer that Orton went on vacation in Hawaii. According to Cornette, he called up Johnny Ace to ask what the gently caress and resulted in Ace blaming Dreamer for not telling Orton and Dreamer calling Ace's bullshit. Cornette said he couldn't prove who really hosed up but only knew not to trust Johnny Ace.
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Mega GIRL posted:It is easy to imagine how important that job is to the wrestlers who want an effective and understanding mediator who will actually voice their issues to the boss even if the person in that position knows that Vince won't want to hear it. In that regard, it's not just the hiring standards that make JR and Ace different and I'm sure any wrestler working for WWE would back up their preference for JR. Yeah, Cornette has said MANY times in shoot interviews that WWE corporate was notorious for either not telling or giving very short notice about OVW call-ups and send-downs. Some of it did involve Johnny Ace but for the most part Cornette blamed the corporate structure of WWE as a whole. Like when WWE sent the Boogeyman down to OVW and Cornette had to frantically book something for the guy to do in a very short timeframe.
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When did the "dvon get the tables" spot first appeared and was it always as popular as it was in wwe(highpoint i guess was during Tlc 3 where the pop was amazing) And what is your favorite "audible spot" ?? Kurts "tap, loving tap" during most of his anklelocks was always funny
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So, I just found that Mick Foley is coming to my town for his "comedy." The tickets are 25 dollars, so that's making me hesitant about going. Has anyone heard any reviews? Is it as god-awful as I am imagining?
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Twin Cinema posted:So, I just found that Mick Foley is coming to my town for his "comedy." The tickets are 25 dollars, so that's making me hesitant about going. Has anyone heard any reviews? Is it as god-awful as I am imagining? There was a review that Foley reacted extremely badly too, which apparently said it wasn't much as a stand-up routine but that Foley was a genial and interesting person and told some amusing stories. It basically sounded like the show was more of an evening of hanging out with Foley listening to him tell interesting, fun stories as opposed to a stand-up comedy show.
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Jerusalem posted:There was a review that Foley reacted extremely badly too, which apparently said it wasn't much as a stand-up routine but that Foley was a genial and interesting person and told some amusing stories. It basically sounded like the show was more of an evening of hanging out with Foley listening to him tell interesting, fun stories as opposed to a stand-up comedy show. Hm, this sounds a lot better then what was in my head. He's amusing enough, and he makes up a large part of my childhood, so I'll probably end up dropping $20 on this. His YouTube videos are decent enough, and I am sure I'll find it funnier at the show. I'll have a few beers in me, and a bunch of people laughing, so it will enhance the experience.
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TheCool69 posted:When did the "dvon get the tables" spot first appeared and was it always as popular as it was in wwe(highpoint i guess was during Tlc 3 where the pop was amazing) Bubba Ray always said "D-Von, get the tables!" but back in early 2000 when they first started doing the table spots, it was more of a loud instruction that the camera mic picked up. Once crowds got smart of that cue, Bubba Ray began loudly exclaiming it for a cheap pop. No idea when it got popular, it just kind of got bigger over a period of time.
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TheCool69 posted:And what is your favorite "audible spot" ?? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcSRpcXSQq8
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Also, another question: are the WWE ever going to revisit the anonymous Raw GM storyline? It just seems weird, even for the WWE, that they would do something for so long without any resolution. Even an "it was Santino all along!" would be something.
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Twin Cinema posted:Also, another question: are the WWE ever going to revisit the anonymous Raw GM storyline? It just seems weird, even for the WWE, that they would do something for so long without any resolution. Even an "it was Santino all along!" would be something. Who raised the briefcase? from 1999 still hasn't been solved.
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When did The Rock's ungodly long Hollywood tron debut?
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I am sure there is some fan fiction out there that has cleared up that matter.
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Twin Cinema posted:Also, another question: are the WWE ever going to revisit the anonymous Raw GM storyline? It just seems weird, even for the WWE, that they would do something for so long without any resolution. Even an "it was Santino all along!" would be something. You'd think but, no....just no.
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UltimoDragonQuest posted:When did The Rock's ungodly long Hollywood tron debut?
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Moose Bigelow posted:Who raised the briefcase? from 1999 still hasn't been solved. I think Vince McMahon said, in a completely offhanded and implied way, that it was Big Bossman the next night on RAW.
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Who was driving the white hummer?
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Bischoff Did Chyna really only have that one match in TNA with Angle? She showed up as his partner, wrestled, and never came back? Was there any mention of her leaving or everyone just forgot about it? oldpainless fucked around with this message at 16:36 on Nov 26, 2011 |
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maniacripper posted:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcSRpcXSQq8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ve3-1zTcQOg
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CombineThresher posted:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ve3-1zTcQOg If anyone wonders why Vince doubts Christian as a World Champion, just take a look at that green monstrosity he wore back then. Ewwww.
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Dr. Video Games 0055 posted:Like when WWE sent the Boogeyman down to OVW and Cornette had to frantically book something for the guy to do in a very short timeframe. It wasn't that he was sent down, it was that he was sent directly to OVW and was needed to be called up to the main roster in a few weeks. Jim needed to basically drop everything and get him both over and ready for the main roster with no warning.
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Rusty Shackelford posted:It wasn't that he was sent down, it was that he was sent directly to OVW and was needed to be called up to the main roster in a few weeks. Jim needed to basically drop everything and get him both over and ready for the main roster with no warning. You're the development fed. That's part of your drat job. If this was hockey it would be a similar issue. NHL team sends down guy to AHL ready to be called up at any time. He could be a valuable part of your winning streak. He could be poo poo and hard to find a spot for in the lineup. You deal with it. I understand it would be nicer if they didn't do it in a very, "gently caress you don't give a poo poo" manner but Jim needs a little thicker skin there. OVW is the development fed. If WWE tells you to develop a guy, you do it. Even if he sucks.
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Lone Rogue posted:You're the development fed. That's part of your drat job. If this was hockey it would be a similar issue. NHL team sends down guy to AHL ready to be called up at any time. He could be a valuable part of your winning streak. He could be poo poo and hard to find a spot for in the lineup. You deal with it. So WWE is now a real sport where it is entirely unavoidable to call people up at a moment's notice? Wrestling is FAKE. You can plan out your roster moves so it doesn't gently caress over your business partner. A partner in OVW's case that was getting very little money from WWE and often not getting other promised perks. So when you are a part owner of that business and the WWE is being not only cheap but loving over your ability to draw money on your own, you have a right to get pissed off about it.
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Lone Rogue posted:You're the development fed. That's part of your drat job. If this was hockey it would be a similar issue. NHL team sends down guy to AHL ready to be called up at any time. He could be a valuable part of your winning streak. He could be poo poo and hard to find a spot for in the lineup. You deal with it. NHL teams aren't signing guys who have never strapped on a pair of skates and then subsequently sending them to the AHL with the expectation that they'll be able to make the NHL in two weeks time of playing hockey.
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Perdido posted:NHL teams aren't signing guys who have never strapped on a pair of skates and then subsequently sending them to the AHL with the expectation that they'll be able to make the NHL in two weeks time of playing hockey. Which is fair, but if OVW wanted to put itself in the position of being the WWE's development promotion, there is going to be some expectations placed upon you that you might not be happy with. Afterall, you are working with the WWE. This is really why the company now runs their own development promotion instead of expecting another owner to do it. Of course the results have been subpar but if you wanted it done the way you want it, you might as well do it yourself.
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Lone Rogue posted:Which is fair, but if OVW wanted to put itself in the position of being the WWE's development promotion, there is going to be some expectations placed upon you that you might not be happy with. Afterall, you are working with the WWE. So you're saying that your utterly nonsensical analogy, which falls apart under even cursory examination and has no bearing on how things actually work at all, is the status quo. Hmm, where to start?
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Moose Bigelow posted:Who raised the briefcase? from 1999 still hasn't been solved. It was the Big Bossman.
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Was Perry Saturn seen as a hot commodity when the Radicals jumped to WWF? He seemed like the odd man out in that group.
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iCloud Strife posted:Was Perry Saturn seen as a hot commodity when the Radicals jumped to WWF? He seemed like the odd man out in that group. He was properly seen as more valuable then Dean.
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Saturn and Malenko were seen as reliable, solid hands for the midcard, but Benoit and Guerrero were always pushed as the top two guys in the group.
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Jerusalem posted:It was the Big Bossman.
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