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Grand Theft Autobot posted:Ah, apologies then. Still, they seemed to be implying that Libya is full of savages who need no reason to do violence to Americans.
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# ? Sep 12, 2012 22:35 |
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Brown Moses posted:Oh Wikileaks, I thought you used to be cool Jesus Christ, that organisation has completely derailed.
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# ? Sep 12, 2012 22:36 |
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Brown Moses posted:Oh Wikileaks, I thought you used to be cool They were before they went out of their way to make everything they leaked be political. Also rip vilerat. Still have no idea what Romney is doing. First Paul Ryan and now this? Guess he's decided to just swing for the fences till November.
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# ? Sep 12, 2012 22:36 |
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Great job wikileaks making yourselves look as bad as Romney.
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# ? Sep 12, 2012 22:36 |
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Spacedad posted:I feel I should storm twitter and abduct that sentence. "How dare the US try to police the world while not policing the world!!"
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# ? Sep 12, 2012 22:37 |
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http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/13/world/middleeast/us-envoy-to-libya-is-reported-killed.html?pagewanted=2&_r=0quote:One witness to the mayhem around the compound on Tuesday said militants chased him to a safe house and lobbed grenades at the location, where he was later found unconscious, apparently from smoke inhalation, and could not be revived by rescuers who took him to a hospital. Killed while being chased like an animal. There are also unconfirmed photos of the Ambassador's corpse being dragged through the streets. Ughh
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# ? Sep 12, 2012 22:39 |
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international owl day posted:"How dare the US try to police the world while not policing the world!!" Yeah. This kind of pretzel loop logic spin is the sort of thing wikileaks should be fighting against, not propagating. gently caress you, wikileaks.
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# ? Sep 12, 2012 22:39 |
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Happydayz posted:Killed while being chased like an animal. There are also unconfirmed photos of the Ambassador's corpse being dragged through the streets. Those are confirmed, but it's also confirmed those are his body being dragged to the hospital.
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# ? Sep 12, 2012 22:41 |
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Happydayz posted:There are also unconfirmed photos of the Ambassador's corpse being dragged through the streets. Someone else posted that Clinton said those were pictures of him being taken to the hospital.
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# ? Sep 12, 2012 22:41 |
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Brown Moses posted:Oh Wikileaks, I thought you used to be cool Christ alive, what a oval office.
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# ? Sep 12, 2012 22:43 |
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I think it's safe to say that Assange went mad, perhaps because of his prospect of living in an embassy forever.
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# ? Sep 12, 2012 22:47 |
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evilweasel posted:Those are confirmed, but it's also confirmed those are his body being dragged to the hospital. Yeah. The pictures are out there if people really want to see him. People aren't dragging the poor guy around like Black Hawk Down; rather they are lifting him up and carrying him on their shoulders to try and save him.
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# ? Sep 12, 2012 22:48 |
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HoveringCheesecake posted:Yeah. The pictures are out there if people really want to see him. People aren't dragging the poor guy around like Black Hawk Down; rather they are lifting him up and carrying him on their shoulders to try and save him. If someone could link those I'd appreciate it.
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# ? Sep 12, 2012 22:49 |
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international owl day posted:I think its a hell of a coincidence for two consulates to be attacked simultaneously, and instantly the invisible finger of fate gets pointed at this anti-Muslim video, before we even have details as to who was hurt; this entire thing is incredibly fishy. What are you trying to say, here? There have been similar protests for other anti-Islamic media releases. The translation was only released a little while ago. The near-simultaneous protests at multiple US government facilities around the region doesn't mean there must be some big conspiracy. For an American example, a bunch of different movie theaters had to deal with near-simultaneous protests from conservative Christians when The Last Temptation of Christ came out, and there wasn't any grand conspiracy there. The only major difference is that the protest in Libya happened to coincide with a planned attack by a militant group. It's certainly possible that the militants behind the attack decided to use current events to their advantage. But, that doesn't require the High Seers of the Illuminati to pull strings, either. All it needs is some guy in the group hearing about a protest that happens to coincide with their already-planned 9/11 anniversary attack.
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# ? Sep 12, 2012 22:49 |
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CommieGIR posted:If someone could link those I'd appreciate it. Wow. Foxnews.com put it on their front page. Incredibly poor taste.
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# ? Sep 12, 2012 22:53 |
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Not to derail, but are there any good, reliable articles out there about pro-American sentiment in Libya? I had a discussion with a friend about this recently and am not having any luck finding anything like this.
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# ? Sep 12, 2012 22:54 |
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Happydayz posted:http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/13/world/middleeast/us-envoy-to-libya-is-reported-killed.html?pagewanted=2&_r=0
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# ? Sep 12, 2012 22:55 |
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Happydayz posted:Wow. Foxnews.com put it on their front page. Incredibly poor taste. Of course they did, Fox News is all about the anti-Islam movement, every time they mention Muslims the word terrorist or extremist is not far behind.
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# ? Sep 12, 2012 22:55 |
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Kaal posted:I don't know how to put this delicately: That article also has the COD for Vilerat, which I haven't seen posted earlier. Gosh I missed that. I didn't know the man, but learning more about the last moments of his life and realizing he was a father of two makes me really sad.
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# ? Sep 12, 2012 22:56 |
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Happydayz posted:Wow. Foxnews.com put it on their front page. Incredibly poor taste. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/09/12/diplomat-killed-in-libya-to-fellow-gamers-assuming-dont-die-tonight/ Ugh.
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# ? Sep 12, 2012 22:56 |
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quote:‘It Makes Me Sick’: Actress in Muhammed Movie Says She Was Deceived, Had No Idea It Was About Islam
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Wikileaks with yet another dumb tweet in the same gist. https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/246004221768499204
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# ? Sep 12, 2012 22:58 |
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HoveringCheesecake posted:Yeah. The pictures are out there if people really want to see him. People aren't dragging the poor guy around like Black Hawk Down; rather they are lifting him up and carrying him on their shoulders to try and save him. Also it's worth noting that they didn't even know he was a high ranking official at that point, just trying to help a hurt man. Don't suffer any of that islamaphobic rhetoric.
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# ? Sep 12, 2012 22:58 |
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I am wondering what is the appropriate way to deal with people such as this? This is from two different people on what happened at the Libyan embassy yesterday.
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# ? Sep 12, 2012 23:00 |
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[/quote] This story keeps getting stranger and stranger.
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# ? Sep 12, 2012 23:01 |
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AllanGordon posted:They were before they went out of their way to make everything they leaked be political. Link to what insane thing Romney's doing? Or do you mean his action of politicizing before his emotional response program activates?
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# ? Sep 12, 2012 23:01 |
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1stGear posted:http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/09/12/diplomat-killed-in-libya-to-fellow-gamers-assuming-dont-die-tonight/ Fox News posted:the foreign service information management officer who also was a moderator at the Internet community Something Awful, which is known for posting disturbing photos and videos. Not sure it was necessary to throw that bit in, Fox.
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# ? Sep 12, 2012 23:03 |
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I've been all over the map today as far as emotional state, and It's still sinking in exactly what has happened and what it might mean. Either way, my condolences to Sean's family. RIP. 1stGear posted:http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/09/12/diplomat-killed-in-libya-to-fellow-gamers-assuming-dont-die-tonight/ quote:On Wednesday, as word spread throughout the guild, tributes poured in for the foreign service information management officer who also was a moderator at the Internet community Something Awful, which is known for posting disturbing photos and videos. Somethingawful; the new stileproject. (Bah, beaten as always). From the sound of it, though, there is a decent trail to track this director down by. He matches the description of the person posted earlier. Can the video be directly connected to those who led the attacks? Is there strong enough evidence of a link to warrant the government investigating the director? stone soup fucked around with this message at 23:13 on Sep 12, 2012 |
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Evil Fluffy posted:Link to what insane thing Romney's doing? Or do you mean his action of politicizing before his emotional response program activates? Also the photo with a smirk on his face as he leaves the press conference about the attack on the embassy (it was posted somewhere in this thread, don't have a link handy)
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# ? Sep 12, 2012 23:04 |
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KaneTW posted:Also the photo with a smirk on his face as he leaves the press conference about the attack on the embassy (it was posted somewhere in this thread, don't have a link handy) I do.
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# ? Sep 12, 2012 23:05 |
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Evil Fluffy posted:Link to what insane thing Romney's doing? Or do you mean his action of politicizing before his emotional response program activates? Yeah pretty much that. Attacking before anything was really known and even then getting almost all of the facts wrong. Just seems insane that his campaign didn't think this would hurt him in the short/long run.
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# ? Sep 12, 2012 23:05 |
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Sushi in Yiddish posted:
This really is taking a turn for the weird. I just hope we don't see violent reprisals against copts in Egypt.
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# ? Sep 12, 2012 23:05 |
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Smashurbanipal posted:Not sure it was necessary to throw that bit in, Fox. Please do not judge us for the calibre of our general forum.
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# ? Sep 12, 2012 23:10 |
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Cease to Hope posted:I do. Never have I wanted to see a man become a modern-day Job so badly as I do right now. Please tell me this picture's getting plastered everywhere, even though most of his supporters won't care.
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# ? Sep 12, 2012 23:10 |
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That description reads like a guy that was mentioned in one of the other threads... a Coptic Egyptian of some sort? Who apparently has a history of this sort of thing?
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# ? Sep 12, 2012 23:11 |
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Silky Thighs posted:I am wondering what is the appropriate way to deal with people such as this? This is from two different people on what happened at the Libyan embassy yesterday. Point out that it was a pre-planned attack by a terrorist organization, the Libyan government is already cooperating with the US in efforts to track them down, and the Libyan people have already come out against the attackers. Post a picture or two of the pro-US solidarity demonstrations, point out that they're people as well (who would doubtlessly be hurt in a kneejerk war), and that this whole thing was started because of misinformed bloodlust.
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# ? Sep 12, 2012 23:12 |
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Guys the fundamentalist pricks what did this were p. much solely to blame. That sort always finds an excuse. We should remember as we mourn our loss, however, that pretty much everyone who dies in these films and photos that are linked are as much people as Vilerat. If we can use this to make ourselves more keenly aware of how utterly hosed up the whole situation in the region is, maybe that's a decent way of handling the death.
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# ? Sep 12, 2012 23:19 |
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Silky Thighs posted:I am wondering what is the appropriate way to deal with people such as this? This is from two different people on what happened at the Libyan embassy yesterday. Reactionaries and fascists who feel like suffering is deserving of more suffering have no place in a just world. they are the cause of injustice. The saddest part is that the people who are calling for war and revenge are reflections of the people who acted in violence from the offensive film to kill Americans. Not because the people in the embassy were the worst humans from America but because they were the closest and most direct representatives of the imperialist objectives of America in Libya. You deal with them as they are, reactionaries and fascists have no place in mainstream discourse and unfortunately they yell loud as gently caress. So just let them know they are just as bad as the people who killed the Americans in Libya.
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# ? Sep 12, 2012 23:25 |
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V. Illych L. posted:We should remember as we mourn our loss, however, that pretty much everyone who dies in these films and photos that are linked are as much people as Vilerat. If we can use this to make ourselves more keenly aware of how utterly hosed up the whole situation in the region is, maybe that's a decent way of handling the death. I hadn't really been following the Arab Spring, Libya and the like aside from listening to NPR once in a while, but I think that's a pretty stupid thing to have ignored for this length of time. Better awareness of what's going on in the world would be the best way things could work out.
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# ? Sep 12, 2012 23:33 |
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Space Gopher posted:Point out that it was a pre-planned attack by a terrorist organization, the Libyan government is already cooperating with the US in efforts to track them down, and the Libyan people have already come out against the attackers. Post a picture or two of the pro-US solidarity demonstrations, point out that they're people as well (who would doubtlessly be hurt in a kneejerk war), and that this whole thing was started because of misinformed bloodlust. It's nice that the Libyan government has come out in support, and anyone who knows follows current events would not be surprised, but I have to say that I worry about their ability to actually reign in these extremist groups in the immediate future. The current government is still weak enough that a determined and armed minority can cause a lot of grief, even if it is a small minority.
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# ? Sep 12, 2012 23:35 |