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HNasty posted:I don't think enough has been said about that price tag, $8500 is insane, this thing will be ultra stripped down and just be a after market honeypot. Comes with ABS though, which owns.
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# ? Oct 1, 2014 00:35 |
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# ? Jun 3, 2024 08:22 |
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Is the 300 horsepower on that Ninja H2R even remotely usable anywhere but the salt flats? Is it really possible to accelerate any faster than the current crop of superbikes already do without losing traction or flipping over?
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# ? Oct 1, 2014 00:42 |
Sagebrush posted:Is the 300 horsepower on that Ninja H2R even remotely usable anywhere but the salt flats? Is it really possible to accelerate any faster than the current crop of superbikes already do without losing traction or flipping over? They do it in moto GP all the time.
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# ? Oct 1, 2014 00:43 |
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The Scrambler looks great, actually would consider it over getting a monster. I love that color of green :o
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# ? Oct 1, 2014 00:58 |
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Scrambler=Monster 20 years ago. Nothing really shocking here, they needed something to fill the new/casual/cheap rider category since they moved the monster up in size. Price is teetering between okay and a bit much for me. Realistically until the demand diminishes and a good sale pops up we're not going to be able to get one for under $10k. For a cheap get-a-rounder I think I'd rather just get a used monster (if I really needed Ducati.) If money wasn't an issue, well I wouldn't be getting a scrambler. I'm sure it will sell like hotcakes, increase Ducati's profits, and be a great bike regardless. clutchpuck posted:Looks like a rough ride for cupcake with the pegs on the swing arm. The rear footrests are coming off the rear-sets for the driver. I'm pretty sure monsters do it like that too. I know for a fact a lot of hte other bikes in the price range and the honda cbr1100 do the same thing, but ducati actually painted the bigass extension so it's harder to notice.
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# ? Oct 1, 2014 01:02 |
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Took this weeks ago, but a pic from a ride I took with my dad when I was back in Michigan seeing the family. He has some pretty cool toys. (background is a Monster S4R)
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# ? Oct 1, 2014 01:49 |
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Chichevache posted:Only got 1000 miles because of all that downtime. I ride every day now, so the number should increase dramatically. I think you'd probably be okay. Just comparing power to wet weight ratios, if I can ride a 440 DRZ like a retard you can probably handle riding the scrambler like a reasonable person. That said, $8500 can buy you a lot of Austrian supermoto which I think would probably be way more fun than a fake scrambler with cast wheels. It is pretty, but if you bought a DRZ you obviously like ugly bikes so
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# ? Oct 1, 2014 02:26 |
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Sagebrush posted:Is the 300 horsepower on that Ninja H2R even remotely usable anywhere but the salt flats? Is it really possible to accelerate any faster than the current crop of superbikes already do without losing traction or flipping over? Total armchair speculation here, but I would suspect anything over maybe 80MPH (pulling this from my rear end), you will see a big benefit from more power. Anything under that speed you are limited by the wheelbase of the bike because that determines (along with some aero) when the front wheel lifts off the ground. In the corners you are limited by the traction of the tires. You can see this premise in action in MotoGP in 2007 when they changed the engine capacity to 800cc and the Ducatis were a lot more powerful. In the corners there was a slight difference because they can only put so much power to the ground, but once they finished the final turn and got on the straights, the Ducati's extra power definitely put them ahead after they hit somewhere around 80MPH (again, a guess). Essentially the extra power between otherwise identical machines starts to matter at the speed where they stop doing power wheelies.
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# ? Oct 1, 2014 02:30 |
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Nitramster posted:Scrambler=Monster 20 years ago. Nothing really shocking here, they needed something to fill the new/casual/cheap rider category since they moved the monster up in size. Price is teetering between okay and a bit much for me. Realistically until the demand diminishes and a good sale pops up we're not going to be able to get one for under $10k. For a cheap get-a-rounder I think I'd rather just get a used monster (if I really needed Ducati.) If money wasn't an issue, well I wouldn't be getting a scrambler. That's my take on it as well, it's a Monster 800 with a retro skinjob. In that respect the price is right where you'd expect. I'd personally rather they restart making GT1000s. I'm sure Duc will sell a bazillion of them, too, until the kind of people who buy retro bikes new run into the expense and frequency of a Ducati belt replacement.
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# ? Oct 1, 2014 02:40 |
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This is supposedly the H2 street model. More likely it's probably the magazines mock up.
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# ? Oct 1, 2014 02:52 |
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Yerok posted:I think you'd probably be okay. Just comparing power to wet weight ratios, if I can ride a 440 DRZ like a retard you can probably handle riding the scrambler like a reasonable person. That said, $8500 can buy you a lot of Austrian supermoto which I think would probably be way more fun than a fake scrambler with cast wheels. It is pretty, but if you bought a DRZ you obviously like ugly bikes so I loving love ugly bikes. All my favorite supersports look like insects, as god intended.
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# ? Oct 1, 2014 02:53 |
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Yerok posted:I think you'd probably be okay. Just comparing power to wet weight ratios, if I can ride a 440 DRZ like a retard you can probably handle riding the scrambler like a reasonable person. I'd keep the DRZ for longer, but basically this. I picked up a 05 FZ6 for commuting that makes 95hp and 45ish ft/lbs of torque and I'm fine with it. e: I put about 9k mi on my poor drz first though. Marxalot fucked around with this message at 03:59 on Oct 1, 2014 |
# ? Oct 1, 2014 03:06 |
Chichevache posted:I loving love ugly bikes. All my favorite supersports look like insects, as god intended. Like neon wasps, as Gibson said.
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# ? Oct 1, 2014 03:10 |
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Slavvy posted:Like neon wasps, as Gibson said. I think it was "clean enamel scorpions."
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# ? Oct 1, 2014 04:33 |
Sagebrush posted:I think it was "clean enamel scorpions." Shows how long it's been since I read amateur-level science fiction
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# ? Oct 1, 2014 07:31 |
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KodiakRS posted:Ooops, changed my mind. THIS is going to be my next bike (and my next source of crippiling debt): Fappo. About time they brought back the RS!
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# ? Oct 1, 2014 12:31 |
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Oh lord http://vimeo.com/107578971
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# ? Oct 1, 2014 18:48 |
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Wow, that Scrambler is amazing. Such a great move by Ducati. I should look into purcha... ...yeah, no, nevermind.
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# ? Oct 1, 2014 18:57 |
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Now they've done everything *exactly* right for this bike to be a smash hit.
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# ? Oct 1, 2014 18:59 |
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This motorcycle is aimed at people who will push you over into a bush soaked in your own urine.
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# ? Oct 1, 2014 19:04 |
Don't give a poo poo, still want one. I wouldn't buy/not buy a product based on the marketing materials, is that something people normally do? I have no idea how any of the bikes I've owned were marketed and I don't really give a poo poo.
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# ? Oct 1, 2014 19:08 |
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Harley marketing is a trauma trigger around here, it seems.
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# ? Oct 1, 2014 19:10 |
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Spiffness posted:Now they've done everything *exactly* right for this bike to be a smash hit. Lemme just wipe away these beautiful tears: Z3n fucked around with this message at 19:15 on Oct 1, 2014 |
# ? Oct 1, 2014 19:12 |
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Slavvy posted:Don't give a poo poo, still want one. I wouldn't buy/not buy a product based on the marketing materials, is that something people normally do? I have no idea how any of the bikes I've owned were marketed and I don't really give a poo poo. I was just laughing at the fact that they're gonna use lifestyle nonsense to sell this bike instead of the specs. The Italians must not have hired the right ad agency because the video is not nearly authentic enough for hipsters, the video looks like a Mentos ad with motorcycle thrown in, the horrible song is pretty hilarious too.
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# ? Oct 1, 2014 19:13 |
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I love how every single piece of clothing they all are wearing says SCRAMBLER on it. Otherwise, meh, whatever. Cool looking bike advertises with cool looking people doing cool looking things.
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# ? Oct 1, 2014 19:18 |
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Where are the sparks?! Two stars.
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# ? Oct 1, 2014 19:19 |
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I can't help but feel that they're selling an image where you can go to a dirty place where a perfectly clean girl in a perfectly clean shirt will clean your perfectly clean goggles while you stare at her boobs.
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# ? Oct 1, 2014 19:23 |
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That's the fatal flaw in the commercial, no Ducati owner would ever go anywhere dirty.
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# ? Oct 1, 2014 19:26 |
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Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester posted:That's the fatal flaw in the commercial, no Ducati owner would ever go anywhere dirty. But they totally could if they wanted. Just look at the commercial!
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# ? Oct 1, 2014 20:15 |
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Slavvy posted:Don't give a poo poo, still want one. I wouldn't buy/not buy a product based on the marketing materials, is that something people normally do? I have no idea how any of the bikes I've owned were marketed and I don't really give a poo poo.
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# ? Oct 1, 2014 20:52 |
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death to the infidels!
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# ? Oct 1, 2014 20:53 |
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That video is so sad, that I was thinking of hnasty when it started playing on the scrambler site. And then Chrome wouldn't let me close it nooooo I like the fact that they're making 4 slightly different Scramblers. I don't like the fact that I want to mix and match parts of each, though.
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# ? Oct 1, 2014 21:09 |
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God, I've never wanted a motorcycle less in my life!
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# ? Oct 1, 2014 21:16 |
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http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/bikes/ronin/#more-72332 Cultural appropriation is the all-American pasttime, but the bike looks great and the phased release of differing customs is a really cool concept.
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# ? Oct 1, 2014 21:35 |
Z3n posted:http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/bikes/ronin/#more-72332 That is loving awesome.
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# ? Oct 1, 2014 22:12 |
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Z3n posted:http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/bikes/ronin/#more-72332 that is a really cool jacket that guy is wearing :I
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# ? Oct 1, 2014 22:16 |
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That is a weird-rear end bike. I like it.
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# ? Oct 1, 2014 22:18 |
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Downsides:BATTERY BOX & REAR SETS posted:A single cast aluminum unit integrates the foot pegs, battery and an adjustable idler pulley to provide belt tension. Foot treads are replaceable rubber inserts and the entire assembly blends seamlessly with the engine to which it’s mounted. Within comfortable reach of the riders feet are custom billet aluminum brake and gear shift levers. OH hooray, your engine mount is also your footpeg bracket! GOOD DESIGN DECISIONS GUYS
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# ? Oct 1, 2014 22:40 |
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That video might be purely distilled retard, but that bike looks like a blast to ride. e: VVV Good point, I've only saw a Gladius once. Moral_Hazard fucked around with this message at 01:31 on Oct 2, 2014 |
# ? Oct 1, 2014 22:41 |
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# ? Jun 3, 2024 08:22 |
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They had an entire website of horrible poo poo like that when the bike came out. I miss it. Gladiusstyle.com or something wasn't it? It's amazing how badly they blew it with that bike. How many SV650s are there in the world? Literally every goon has one. I don't think I've seen a single Gladius on the street ever.
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# ? Oct 2, 2014 00:58 |