MeLKoR posted:

The ultra whale VIP card.



"Faithful until death"

*not a cult*

fuctifino posted:

Google suggests the more accurate translation is "Faithful to quitting"

MeLKoR posted:

Wasn't Sandi a Latin expert?

MeLKoR posted:

The ultra whale VIP card.



"Faithful until death"

*not a cult*

MeLKoR posted:

It's also cheap plastic poo poo ordered from China, for the extra spit in the eye.

Mirificus posted:

The self-proclaimed Dark Knight of Star Citizen:

Mirificus posted:

I will feel grief

https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/comment/6154184/#Comment_6154184

Nanomashoes posted:

The better question is: will Star Citizen release/fold before Barkley 2? I say yes.

That Works posted:

Tarkus posted:

Robbaz played this game, it was fun to watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXk7o84MZPo

Tippis posted:

Swedes should not be allowed in the internet.

MeLKoR posted:

Wasn't Sandi a Latin expert?

kikkelivelho posted:

How could I not be serious? We are, after all, discussing an IP that could be this generations Star Wars. A global phenomenon that will redefine scifi and space game conventions as we know them. I certainly wouldn't expect anything less from Chris, he did already revolutionize the space sim genre once with Wing Commander. There's been a lot of copycats since then but none have truly reached the perfect mixture of hollywood screenplay and adrenaline filled space combat that Chris is once again aiming for with Squadron 42.

Kainser posted:

Wing Commander was ok and all but I really don't get how Chris Roberts amassed a cult based on just that game

Gilganixon posted:

that's a $120 jpg, did you get a refund or do you still consider it a good price for the inside look at the insanity and whatnot?

fuctifino posted:

I must admit that I had doubts, but after seeing the brainchild Chris Roberts demonstrate his game before Xmas, all those doubts left.

The game looks amazing. You should all check it out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWq8ynUq7wM

Beer4TheBeerGod posted:

It was $110 when I bought it. My purchase history is weird. I was an original backer so Goons would use me to "launder" ships so they could get a feature called lifetime insurance (a formerly limited benefit that pretty much anyone can get). During 2013 interest in SC exploded and I laundered more than $28,000 worth of starships. I got around $700 in "tips" for doing this and bought a bunch of ships on store credit. I also bought a few minor upgrades here and there and sold a ship for $300 to break even.

I then became a subscriber for $10 a month. The main advantage for this was being able to directly ask Chris questions via his weekly show (I hold the record for most questions answered, which pisses off a bunch of spergs). I also still believed in the project at this point and appreciated supporting the efforts that communicated things to the community. Between subscriptions and various purchases I spent $600. Most of the purchases was small stuff. $5 here, $20 there, the charity skin, etc over a three year period.

In October I got permabanned from the forums and I decided to sell off some more ships. I broke even again, and then CIG had a big military sale which killed the value of the ship's I had left so I figured I would wait. Then in December one of the guys I helped launder ships for got a refund and demanded that CIG return the gifted packages to their original owners. I got around $500 worth back.

So the end result is that I have made back all my money, have all the benefits of being an original backer, and still have $1K "worth" of ships. Since my backer history is so complicated it's unlikely that I would have gotten anything refunded. I am still deciding what to do with the remaining packages. Most are locked to my account.

Honestly had I just had the $110 package I likely would have not gotten a refund. I still expect CIG to deliver a product, and I have gotten more than my money's worth in entertainment. Breaking even thanks to selling stuff has just been gravy. I do not expect to ever give CIG more money based on how they are acting.

Beer4TheBeerGod posted:

It was $110 when I bought it. My purchase history is weird. I was an original backer so Goons would use me to "launder" ships so they could get a feature called lifetime insurance (a formerly limited benefit that pretty much anyone can get). During 2013 interest in SC exploded and I laundered more than $28,000 worth of starships. I got around $700 in "tips" for doing this and bought a bunch of ships on store credit. I also bought a few minor upgrades here and there and sold a ship for $300 to break even.

I then became a subscriber for $10 a month. The main advantage for this was being able to directly ask Chris questions via his weekly show (I hold the record for most questions answered, which pisses off a bunch of spergs). I also still believed in the project at this point and appreciated supporting the efforts that communicated things to the community. Between subscriptions and various purchases I spent $600. Most of the purchases was small stuff. $5 here, $20 there, the charity skin, etc over a three year period.

In October I got permabanned from the forums and I decided to sell off some more ships. I broke even again, and then CIG had a big military sale which killed the value of the ship's I had left so I figured I would wait. Then in December one of the guys I helped launder ships for got a refund and demanded that CIG return the gifted packages to their original owners. I got around $500 worth back.

So the end result is that I have made back all my money, have all the benefits of being an original backer, and still have $1K "worth" of ships. Since my backer history is so complicated it's unlikely that I would have gotten anything refunded. I am still deciding what to do with the remaining packages. Most are locked to my account.

Honestly had I just had the $110 package I likely would have not gotten a refund. I still expect CIG to deliver a product, and I have gotten more than my money's worth in entertainment. Breaking even thanks to selling stuff has just been gravy. I do not expect to ever give CIG more money based on how they are acting.

Beer4TheBeerGod posted:

It was $110 when I bought it. My purchase history is weird. I was an original backer so Goons would use me to "launder" ships so they could get a feature called lifetime insurance (a formerly limited benefit that pretty much anyone can get). During 2013 interest in SC exploded and I laundered more than $28,000 worth of starships. I got around $700 in "tips" for doing this and bought a bunch of ships on store credit. I also bought a few minor upgrades here and there and sold a ship for $300 to break even.

I then became a subscriber for $10 a month. The main advantage for this was being able to directly ask Chris questions via his weekly show (I hold the record for most questions answered, which pisses off a bunch of spergs). I also still believed in the project at this point and appreciated supporting the efforts that communicated things to the community. Between subscriptions and various purchases I spent $600. Most of the purchases was small stuff. $5 here, $20 there, the charity skin, etc over a three year period.

In October I got permabanned from the forums and I decided to sell off some more ships. I broke even again, and then CIG had a big military sale which killed the value of the ship's I had left so I figured I would wait. Then in December one of the guys I helped launder ships for got a refund and demanded that CIG return the gifted packages to their original owners. I got around $500 worth back.

So the end result is that I have made back all my money, have all the benefits of being an original backer, and still have $1K "worth" of ships. Since my backer history is so complicated it's unlikely that I would have gotten anything refunded. I am still deciding what to do with the remaining packages. Most are locked to my account.

Honestly had I just had the $110 package I likely would have not gotten a refund. I still expect CIG to deliver a product, and I have gotten more than my money's worth in entertainment. Breaking even thanks to selling stuff has just been gravy. I do not expect to ever give CIG more money based on how they are acting.

kikkelivelho posted:

No, you're right. Swedes shouldn't be allowed anywhere

Beer4TheBeerGod posted:

It was $110 when I bought it. My purchase history is weird. I was an original backer so Goons would use me to "launder" ships so they could get a feature called lifetime insurance (a formerly limited benefit that pretty much anyone can get). During 2013 interest in SC exploded and I laundered more than $28,000 worth of starships. I got around $700 in "tips" for doing this and bought a bunch of ships on store credit. I also bought a few minor upgrades here and there and sold a ship for $300 to break even.

I then became a subscriber for $10 a month. The main advantage for this was being able to directly ask Chris questions via his weekly show (I hold the record for most questions answered, which pisses off a bunch of spergs). I also still believed in the project at this point and appreciated supporting the efforts that communicated things to the community. Between subscriptions and various purchases I spent $600. Most of the purchases was small stuff. $5 here, $20 there, the charity skin, etc over a three year period.

In October I got permabanned from the forums and I decided to sell off some more ships. I broke even again, and then CIG had a big military sale which killed the value of the ship's I had left so I figured I would wait. Then in December one of the guys I helped launder ships for got a refund and demanded that CIG return the gifted packages to their original owners. I got around $500 worth back.

So the end result is that I have made back all my money, have all the benefits of being an original backer, and still have $1K "worth" of ships. Since my backer history is so complicated it's unlikely that I would have gotten anything refunded. I am still deciding what to do with the remaining packages. Most are locked to my account.

Honestly had I just had the $110 package I likely would have not gotten a refund. I still expect CIG to deliver a product, and I have gotten more than my money's worth in entertainment. Breaking even thanks to selling stuff has just been gravy. I do not expect to ever give CIG more money based on how they are acting.

Beer4TheBeerGod posted:

For a lot of people (myself included) there's a massive desire to be immersed in a sci-fi world similar to Star Wars, with starfighters and tramp freighters and players not just flying a ship but actually being inside them. Star Citizen looked to be closer to that experience than any other game, and the entire marketing campaign revolved around that. The joke about SC being full of dreams is fairly accurate, particularly with respect to ship sales. They weren't selling ships, they were selling roles.

My own experience reflects this. I saw a community full of autistic carebears and knew stealing their poo poo would be hilarious. So after getting the $35 starter pack and then seeing nine months of progress I bought the Cutlass "pirate" ship. It was flexible, designed to board ships, and was supposedly fast. I saw myself in that role and became attached to the ship and what it represented. Now take that feeling to an extreme, toss in hundreds or thousands of dollars of sunk cost fallacy, and you have the insanity we have now.

Gilganixon posted:

to me this sounds like a good game, I couldn't care less about the space sim itself.

Is there still a lot of this wheeling and dealing going on or is the writing on the wall?

Professor Shark posted:

If this every turns out I want to join your crew, so long as we fight everything that we come across and kill as many people as possible

SniperWoreConverse posted:

yeah I would be totally down for this in an actual game that were released. When SC first got announced I just assumed it was a real thing that could happen. gently caress putting money into it tho.