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Jose posted:This is the biggest problem with polling at that age range can't you extrapolate from that and assume that everyone who doesn't vote is actually voting for the conservatives and lib dems to maintain the status quo, or did the scotpol thread lie to me
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tdrules posted:Voter demographics have shifted in recent years, according to YouGov the primary reason the Conservatives polling figures have recovered is due to a surge in the 18-24 range. Lookit' dem Lib Dem numbers go. 21% voter retention. Although I'd love to meet the 16% who've decided to vote Tory. I guess their student rebellion phase is well and truly over, and it's time to protect that new-found income.
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Disinterested posted:A guy I work with is trying to bring his wife over from overseas. He accidentally picked the wrong thing in a dropdown on the online form for her visa application. Maybe he should take more care filling out an online form for such an important document.
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stickyfngrdboy posted:Maybe he should take more care filling out an online form for such an important document. Ouch! Solicitor? Discuss with local MP at their surgery? Complaints/appeals process? For those of you get angry over executive pay, don't click this link about university vice chancellor's pay!
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stickyfngrdboy posted:Maybe he should take more care filling out an online form for such an important document. gently caress right off. The system is basically designed to be a laborious, expensive and difficult to use piece of poo poo as a tax on the people who use it.
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Disinterested posted:gently caress right off. The system is basically designed to be a laborious, expensive and difficult to use piece of poo poo as a tax on the people who use it. Yeah I don't disagree, but if you're filling out a visa application for your wife you should still ensure you fill the form out correctly, no?
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stickyfngrdboy posted:Yeah I don't disagree, but if you're filling out a visa application for your wife you should still ensure you fill the form out correctly, no? It's not so much that he just misclicked as that it was very ambigious as to what the correct option to choose was.
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stickyfngrdboy posted:Yeah I don't disagree, but if you're filling out a visa application for your wife you should still ensure you fill the form out correctly, no? Sometimes the forms are just poo poo or unclear. I've not filled out a visa application but the passport online service had some bug where it couldn't differentiate between renewal applications which required a countersignatory/photograph and ones that didn't. Which meant I had to redo them all from the start on hard copies (including the bit where I had to explain why I wasn't sending the old passport back to them when the reason was because it was sitting on their desk and they refused to send it back). Luckily I didn't have to pay twice though. Hope it all gets sorted and CAB or someone can help at least get the cost brought down.
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Disinterested posted:It's not so much that he just misclicked as that it was very ambigious as to what the correct option to choose was. Ah well that's a little more complex than you suggested initially, so yeah maybe he has a case. These are things that should be easier for everyone involved, but wait til UKIP get in, it'll be even more difficult then.
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stickyfngrdboy posted:Ah well that's a little more complex than you suggested initially, so yeah maybe he has a case. These are things that should be easier for everyone involved, but wait til UKIP get in, it'll be even more difficult then. It's loving sinister because it feels intentionally designed to discourage people and put them off, but it's obviously a stealth way of doing it.
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Disinterested posted:It's loving sinister because it feels intentionally designed to discourage people and put them off, but it's obviously a stealth way of doing it. I think there should be some level of difficulty to the process as a whole, but maybe not to the degree it is currently. the form filling certainly should be the easiest part, and all contact with government agencies is made to intimidate and make you feel like you're doing something wrong by even needing to fill out these forms.
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stickyfngrdboy posted:but wait til UKIP get in, it'll be even more difficult then. 
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stickyfngrdboy posted:I think there should be some level of difficulty to the process as a whole, but maybe not to the degree it is currently. the form filling certainly should be the easiest part, and all contact with government agencies is made to intimidate and make you feel like you're doing something wrong by even needing to fill out these forms. Speaking of government agencies intimidating people, I had an interview with the DWP yesterday, checking up on the fact that I'm claiming Carer's Allowance. Most of it was basically "No, I can't work a full time job as well as being a carer" and "No, the person I'm caring for isn't going to magically convalesce". They really make it feel like they grudge giving you money.
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Hijo Del Helmsley posted:Speaking of government agencies intimidating people, I had an interview with the DWP yesterday, checking up on the fact that I'm claiming Carer's Allowance. Most of it was basically "No, I can't work a full time job as well as being a carer" and "No, the person I'm caring for isn't going to magically convalesce". While I'm sorry for your individual circumstances, I am glad that the DWP checks these things - don't forget that questions about convalescence may be relevant for some people, depending on the nature of the illness. It would bother me if they were rude and/or unprofessional about it. I don't think they should harass claimants every five minutes, but I wouldn't expect them to keep paying over a period of years without ever checking up on the situation.
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Well, given the civil services are being mugged for personnel and money I'm pretty sure they're being forced to get brutal with people. I think the whole incentive structure is just hosed up - it's not about giving money to people who need it, it's about loving as many people as you can to save money.
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The assumption is not that you need help, but that you're pretending you need help and are lazy.
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And that most people don't already feel bad about having to ask for help, and will downright brazenly lie or distort to get it. Benefit fraud is basically a tiny problem that's massive only in the imagination.
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Disinterested posted:Well, given the civil services are being mugged for personnel and money I'm pretty sure they're being forced to get brutal with people. I think the whole incentive structure is just hosed up - it's not about giving money to people who need it, it's about loving as many people as you can to save money. It's like that with housing too. A friend of mine recently became homeless with her young daughter (left an abusive relationship) and the councils response was basically 'how do we make this someone elses problem rather than ours?' I do kind of feel sorry for them, the individual council workers can't do gently caress all about the number of houses available. but it's really poo poo for the people on the receiving end to be passed around like a stinking turd no one wants near them.
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stickyfngrdboy posted:I think there should be some level of difficulty to the process as a whole, but maybe not to the degree it is currently. the form filling certainly should be the easiest part, and all contact with government agencies is made to intimidate and make you feel like you're doing something wrong by even needing to fill out these forms. I am currently going through a visa application for the United States and I have friends who have done it for Australia. In my case I am lucky enough to be engaging an immigration lawyer. I wouldn't say the process feels like it's designed to be in intimidating. It's just often unfamiliar language and you have to be accurate. Certainly when you're spending a thousand pounds on an application its worth triple checking and calling an expert if you are not sure. As my old man told me, measure twice cut once. If you can get your head around Marxist polemic you should be able to fill out a form.
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stickyfngrdboy posted:Broken Britain What you talking about, it's the most ambitious housing project we've had in ages.
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Prince John posted:For those of you get angry over executive pay, don't click this link about university vice chancellor's pay! And by pretending that students as consumers are paying tuition fees, rather than the state giving a block grant it gives unis even more excuse to use excuses like commercial confidentially and deny they have responsibility of transparency in matters like this.
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The gently caress Crewkerne? At its peak a year ago, more than 200 little doors had been screwed, nailed and installed on trees, according to Mr Acreman. And with little tokens, fairy toys and notes secreted behind some of the doors, it has rapidly become known as "the fairy woods". "We've had as many as 10 doors put up on a single tree; they surrounded the tree," he said. "We had a complete fairy fairground arrive, but we rejected that planning proposal."   I guess people have been at the mushrooms and scrumpy down in zummerzet
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Lugaloco posted:Cameron doesn't seem to want the proposed 2-way debate with Miliband in the run up to the election: Please please please loving empty chair Cameron and just have an hour of "Red" Ed Miliband talking at the camera as a huge graphic screen behind him gradually turns a deeper and deeper shade of red, with the hammer and sickle growing from a single yellow pixel to take up the entire screen as he proclaims Full Communism Now.
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Oberleutnant posted:Please please please loving empty chair Cameron and just have an hour of "Red" Ed Miliband burbling incoherently while proposing nothing but Tory policy and winning the debate for Cameron without him even having to show up.
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Oberleutnant posted:Please please please loving empty chair Cameron and just have an hour of "Red" Ed Miliband talking at the camera as a huge graphic screen behind him gradually turns a deeper and deeper shade of red, with the hammer and sickle growing from a single yellow pixel to take up the entire screen as he proclaims Full Communism Now. Miliband isn't ruthless enough to brutally oppress and execute anyone who disagrees with him. Cameron on the other hand
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JFairfax posted:The gently caress Crewkerne? Installation of fairy doors in trees with large exposed root gaps is something of a tradition down south. I've never heard of it on this kind of scale before, though.
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Jose posted:Miliband isn't ruthless enough to brutally oppress and execute anyone who disagrees with him. Cameron on the other hand I don't think Miliband is ruthless enough to win a debate against a tub of lard
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Oberleutnant posted:Please please please loving empty chair Cameron and just have an hour of "Red" Ed Miliband talking at the camera as a huge graphic screen behind him gradually turns a deeper and deeper shade of red, with the hammer and sickle growing from a single yellow pixel to take up the entire screen as he proclaims Full Communism Now. A fig for your tarnished soviet iconography, all true communards demand nothing less than Lady Liberty, bare breasts, phrygian cap dipped in the blood of the oppressor and all. 
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Disinterested posted:And that most people don't already feel bad about having to ask for help, and will downright brazenly lie or distort to get it. That's because the real problem is paying out any benefits, even legitimate ones. I thus submit that we kill - and then eat - the rich.
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JFairfax posted:I don't think Miliband is ruthless enough to win a debate against a tub of lard Have he and Eric Pickles had many Commons sparring matches?
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JFairfax posted:I don't think Miliband is ruthless enough to win a debate against a tub of lard Dude's gonna be a dark horse. We'll be invading Argentina in August in the name of full colonial expansion. America will object but thats when WHAM, Washington DC gets hit by our entire stock of Trident missiles. Miliband will appear on TV to make a quip about "Return to sender" or something. No one laughs, everyone cries. Respect is total. There is only Miliband.
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EmptyVessel posted:A fig for your tarnished soviet iconography, all true communards demand nothing less than Lady Liberty, bare breasts, phrygian cap dipped in the blood of the oppressor and all. I think we need to update the symbolism of the communist brand to be more relevant to the modern worker demographic. Something like a keyboard crossed with a cash register....
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Oberleutnant posted:I think we need to update the symbolism of the communist brand to be more relevant to the modern worker demographic. Something like a keyboard crossed with a cash register.... A zero-hours contract crossed with a P45.
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Zephro posted:A zero-hours contract crossed with a JSA form. Appeal to the youth demographic.
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Regarde Aduck posted:Dude's gonna be a dark horse. We'll be invading Argentina in August in the name of full colonial expansion. America will object but thats when WHAM, Washington DC gets hit by our entire stock of Trident missiles. Miliband will appear on TV to make a quip about "Return to sender" or something. No one laughs, everyone cries. Respect is total. There is only Miliband. We can only hope. I'd love to see Miliband express eloquence and humour.
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Good news! The politicians responsible for one of the largest and probably most deprived council areas in Northern Ireland are 100% committed to focusing on the important issues. http://sluggerotoole.com/2015/03/04/sfs-latest-trojan-horse-of-equality-spotted-in-mid-ulster/
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