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nitrogen posted:Thats an older pic. IT's got a team mystic sticker on it now, since nobody plays Pokémon Go anymore, either. I'm with you, I don't record it, but I lane split on 635 when it backs up like crazy, or on 75 when things go nuts.
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I'm looking at at 250--500cc dualsports to get a smaller weekend gravel traveler. I'm usually do around 600-700km - 375/450miles weekend with about 60/40 - 50/50 Gravel-sealed surface. There was some roads that eluded us this year because my transalp was a bit too big and heavy to safely get around the locked road barrier. What I want is something that can handle my weekend riding, and not having to change oil/check valves each week. 3000+mile oil interval if possible. I ride on-road gravel, not true off road(no small tracks, It's illegal most places here to ride on anything smaller than what a tractor/car can drive on.) I'd like sub 160kg - 350LBS wet if possible. No need for a true hard luggage rack, just something that can handle soft bags. Need to have a little voltage output, but just to power gps and heated grips. Tank range is not that important but 125 miles before getting on the reserve had been nice. I only run smaller roads so as long as it can keep 65 Mph in uphill with 95kg/210 lbs total for rider+luggage I'm happy. I'm looking at some models: Yamaha WR450 (too short service interval?) Suzuki DRz400 (only avaliable for a few years here, i think 2004 is newest, hard to find unmolested by hooners, but there are some availaible) Kawa klx250/450( Almost impossible to find, very few get road plates for them) Honda NX 250 (a little low power, hard to find) Husq TE610 (not sure about the mantainance interval on these) I'm mostly looking at getting these used, and limiting me to already road plated bikes. both plating and/or buying new is a bit too rich/hassle. What I'm wondering, is there any options I've forgot? any I should avoid? There is alot of 180KGish 650cc bikes, but that is abit to close to my transalp in weight(200KG wet) for me to bother. klr 650, dr650 etc. And I'm in Norway, you can usually find most eu bikes here.
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Sep 28, 2016 12:51
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Supradog posted:I'm looking at at 250--500cc dualsports to get a smaller weekend gravel traveler. I'm usually do around 600-700km - 375/450miles weekend with about 60/40 - 50/50 Gravel-sealed surface. There was some roads that eluded us this year because my transalp was a bit too big and heavy to safely get around the locked road barrier. BMW xchallenge? Ktm 530 (stretching with the maintenance intervals, but tons of power and quite light)? Wr250?
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Sep 28, 2016 12:59
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Hm, nice alternatives, i'll add them to the list. The bmw looks good, except for the hilarious stock fuel tank size. Shame the x-series bmws are reaaaally rare here, I watch the the biggest used bike list here like a hawk and they only appear like 2-3 times a year(that's for the entire country). WR250 looks interesting, but is pretty rare(there is only 1 listing of one with plates. 750 mile drive home after a fly and ride  )ktm 530 maintainance looks to be a bit too heavy. pr the ktm manual, 15hour on oil and valve check for hobby use.
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Sep 28, 2016 13:21
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Supradog posted:Hm, nice alternatives, i'll add them to the list. The bmw looks good, except for the hilarious stock fuel tank size. bmw you'll need to either carry a rotopax or get one of the aftermarket tanks but I had one and really liked it. I think this is going to be a consistent issue for you though. You'll either need to get an aftermarket tank for your dirt bike or you'll need to get a bike that isn't very good in the dirt. KTM 530 - maybe do some more reading on them as lots of folks run far longer maintenance intervals, but also you have to decide whether you're OK with lower maintenance intervals for far better performance. Wet weight of 250 and ~45 hp, vs 70 more lbs and only 53 hp for the x challenge and 45 lbs more and 20 fewer hp for the WR. You might check out the australian guy's thoughts on the subject: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERHH927p_rw edit: ktm lc4?
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Sep 28, 2016 15:12
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Supradog posted:I'm looking at at 250--500cc dualsports to get a smaller weekend gravel traveler. I'm usually do around 600-700km - 375/450miles weekend with about 60/40 - 50/50 Gravel-sealed surface. There was some roads that eluded us this year because my transalp was a bit too big and heavy to safely get around the locked road barrier. 690 enduro if you're feeling spendy. 140kg, 12l tank.
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Brand new rider, looking at bikes, gonna make this simple, since I'm sure you guys get this a lot: 6'4" 230lbs (and dropping )Taking the MSF course next month, buying all my gear before I buy the bike, but after I figure out what I want (color coordination is important  )Sub $6000 if new if possible, less hopefully if used. ABS is a must from what I've read. Mostly riding for fun on days off, but may do short city commutes (<7 miles in 35-45mph zones) on decent days. Looking mostly at standards and less crazy sport bikes, but I also like the look of Triumph Bonnevilles Is a CB500F a bad choice? Should I be looking at 500's/650's? Really, what I'm asking is there are a ton of Ninja 250's on craigslist for cheap and I'm wondering if it would be too small/slow for someone of my size, or if that'd be good to learn on and then quickly upgrade.
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Oct 1, 2016 14:12
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spouse posted:Brand new rider, looking at bikes, gonna make this simple, since I'm sure you guys get this a lot: I'm 6'6" and 300lbs and started out on a cbr500r and did 40k miles in two years on it. It has the same engine as the F and X, different body style and ergos. It's a great starter bike and rock solid. A used one can probably be picked up for $3-$4k, and a lot of the time they have under 10k miles because people upgrade.
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Oct 1, 2016 14:20
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Thanks! I like the look of that CBR. I'll check that out too There are a bunch in my area at about $3500 that are basically new, so you're right on the money there!
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Oct 1, 2016 14:41
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spouse posted:Looking mostly at standards and less crazy sport bikes, but I also like the look of Triumph Bonnevilles I bought a Bonneville as my first motorcycle and sold it within the first year of ownership. Don't be stupid like me. Start on something smaller & lighter. I ended up getting a DRZ400sm, which would be an option for you. It'll have a bit more giddy-up than a ninja250, and it'll also have a more upright seating position. I have basically the same commute as you and it's perfect for bombing around the city because of it's upright seating position and large suspension (which just eats up potholes all day). The CBR mentioned above is a great idea. Otherwise something like a Ninja300 with ABS would hit basically every point you're looking for. CBR300 ABS would be about the same. My biggest piece of advice would be to wait until after the MSF course to buy a motorcycle. Being able to test ride a few bikes before purchasing will help you save money and avoid being a silly billy like I was. Edit: Obligatory Bonneville review video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsKFsce5phw Fishvilla fucked around with this message at 15:13 on Oct 1, 2016 |
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Oct 1, 2016 15:01
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Fishvilla posted:I bought a Bonneville as my first motorcycle and sold it within the first year of ownership. Don't be stupid like me. Start on something smaller & lighter. You're doing god's work, my friend
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Fishvilla posted:I bought a Bonneville as my first motorcycle and sold it within the first year of ownership. Don't be stupid like me. Start on something smaller & lighter. Thanks for all the advice. Avoid big heavy pretty triumphs for first bike. Got it, and I'll look at that DRZ. The MSF course is offered through the local community college, and serves as a waiver for the skills portion of the motorcycle endorsement on my license. I'll get the endorsement first, a buddy said I could practice on his ninja 650, not sure whether I'll take him up on that since it seems like a lot to start on. And yeah, not buying for a few months, since I've got more pressing expenditures. I plan on purchasing sometime in febuary likely, so I can start riding just as it starts warming up in march.
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Oct 1, 2016 17:00
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spouse posted:Brand new rider, looking at bikes, gonna make this simple, since I'm sure you guys get this a lot: With your height the DRZ is pretty much the perfect bike. It doesn't have ABS, but I think you can get away without it on a supermoto. It's a fantastic starter. The Ninja 250 is a popular starter here. Lots of goons ride them. The Ninja 300 with ABS is also a great starter.
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I feel like the only reason a supermoto shouldn't be a first bike (or 4th or 6th) is money. First bike money is often not enough to afford a sumo. You do have sumo money and this shouldn't even be a question for you. Get a drzsm/wr250x. You don't need abs on a sumo, as it handles traction loss with aplomb. Check out the supermoto thread op, for more reasons to do this.
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Oct 1, 2016 18:30
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Coydog posted:I feel like the only reason a supermoto shouldn't be a first bike (or 4th or 6th) is money. First bike money is often not enough to afford a sumo. You do have sumo money and this shouldn't even be a question for you. Get a drzsm/wr250x. You don't need abs on a sumo, as it handles traction loss with aplomb. I can think of only 3 reasons not to start on a sumo: 1. The aforementioned price. 2. If you're just too drat short for one (sorry, M42) 3. If you're only one point away from having your license revoked.
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Oct 1, 2016 19:25
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Found a Drz400 350 miles away, found a xt350 more locally, waiting on the " I gotta move this bike right now before winter because I got no place to store it" deals.
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Oct 1, 2016 19:28
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If you can wait till November, folks start needing Christmas money too.
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Yup, I got the cash, got a car and trailer avaliable + storage/ fix up room. I'll use the mayybe 4 more weeks of riding before the road salt appears to ride what I already got. It does not need to be readily driveable and kitted up until like late April. Before that there's snow and ice on the more interesting roads anyway.
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CB500F is the perfect bike for your first bike. It's my second bike and I wish it had been my first. Cheap, easy to ride, fun, ABS, and looks cool as all hell.
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Checkout supermotos, CB500f good. Got it. Thanks goons  I'll update when I find something so you can all laugh at whatever bad newbie choice I make on something. gotta pay it forward.
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Oct 1, 2016 22:32
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spouse posted:Checkout supermotos, CB500f good. Got it. Thanks goons Note: I have yet to do a wheelie on the CB500f. I don't know what that says about the bike or me.
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turn it up TURN ME ON posted:Note: I have yet to do a wheelie on the CB500f. 
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Time to unpimp ze auto. My favorite thing about those ads (apart from Peter Stormare) is they didn't use any CG. They actually built a big rear end trebuchet and threw a car.
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So, what exactly makes supermotos such great bikes for new riders? I'm thinking about selling my Ninja 300 next spring and getting something bigger (physically, not necessarily power-wise) and I've been looking at various options, but never really considered a supermoto. I don't do a lot of highway driving, probably ~100 miles a week, but those knobby tires look like they aren't the best for it....
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Oct 2, 2016 13:58
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IuniusBrutus posted:So, what exactly makes supermotos such great bikes for new riders? I'm thinking about selling my Ninja 300 next spring and getting something bigger (physically, not necessarily power-wise) and I've been looking at various options, but never really considered a supermoto. I don't do a lot of highway driving, probably ~100 miles a week, but those knobby tires look like they aren't the best for it.... Sumos kind of suck on the highway. I suggest getting something else if you need to do 100+ miles a week. Or at least get one with 6 speeds. Riding my DRZ400 on the highway was terrible.
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Oct 2, 2016 14:24
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Dude 100 miles a week on the highway isn't a huge deal. That's a 10 mile one-way commute.
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IuniusBrutus posted:So, what exactly makes supermotos such great bikes for new riders? I'm thinking about selling my Ninja 300 next spring and getting something bigger (physically, not necessarily power-wise) and I've been looking at various options, but never really considered a supermoto. I don't do a lot of highway driving, probably ~100 miles a week, but those knobby tires look like they aren't the best for it.... They're the closest a 2 wheeled vehicle can be to uncrashable. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-bWVewC03o
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IuniusBrutus posted:So, what exactly makes supermotos such great bikes for new riders? I'm thinking about selling my Ninja 300 next spring and getting something bigger (physically, not necessarily power-wise) and I've been looking at various options, but never really considered a supermoto. I don't do a lot of highway driving, probably ~100 miles a week, but those knobby tires look like they aren't the best for it.... Supermotos replace the knobbies for street rubber. They're great because they're easy to ride - don't have huge amounts of power and handle great. Also don't care if they fall over.
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IuniusBrutus posted:So, what exactly makes supermotos such great bikes for new riders? I'm thinking about selling my Ninja 300 next spring and getting something bigger (physically, not necessarily power-wise) and I've been looking at various options, but never really considered a supermoto. I don't do a lot of highway driving, probably ~100 miles a week, but those knobby tires look like they aren't the best for it.... 100 miles a week on the highway?! I think you need a big tourer for that. Probably a goldwing, maybe an ST1300 Pan European. 100 miles of highway is nothing on a supermoto in a single stretch, let alone spread out over a week. If I were doing a 500 mile trip in one stretch, I'd look into a small windscreen, and maybe a gas tank that was at least 3 gallons, but that's all. From the OP of the supermoto thread, which I recommended spouse read just a few posts back, which nobody bothers to read: pr0zac posted:
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drat maybe I'll trade in the fz for one. My commute just changed to about 15 miles of drive time lane splitting thru Koreatown and the 10
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clutchpuck posted:Dude 100 miles a week on the highway isn't a huge deal. That's a 10 mile one-way commute. Whoops. I was thinking like 100 miles a day. I shouldn't post hung over.
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Partial Octopus posted:Whoops. I was thinking like 100 miles a day. I shouldn't post hung over. 100 miles a day ain't nothing either.
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Oh, is this a mileage pissing contest? Well back in my day I commuted 1000 miles every 12 hours on a bike that only went 75mph and I had one flat tire and it was uphill both ways.
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Mr. Wiggles posted:100 miles a day ain't nothing either. 100 miles a day on a stock DRZ seat is terrible, and before you start jumping in and bragging about the fortitude of your rear end, I will just assume you've deadened all your nerves with vibrating buttplugs.
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Chichevache posted:100 miles a day on a stock DRZ seat is terrible, and before you start jumping in and bragging about the fortitude of your rear end, I will just assume you've deadened all your nerves with vibrating buttplugs. Wait haven't we all?
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I equip my Seat of Concepts for +10(hours) rear end fortitude.
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I found an SXV550 with the full Akro setup and Marchesinis, 2400ish miles, for $4200 1) it's in Idaho, I'm in Ohio 2) it's an 07, black sealant but the seller doesn't know if it's been resealed or had the motor swapped up to the 08 I know better, but sweet jesus it's tempting
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Sagebrush posted:Oh, is this a mileage pissing contest? Well back in my day I commuted 1000 miles every 12 hours on a bike that only went 75mph and I had one flat tire and it was uphill both ways. One flat? We'd have been glad to have flats in my day. We were lucky to have a used bicycle tube to wrap around our rims. Jazzzzz posted:I found an SXV550 with the full Akro setup and Marchesinis, 2400ish miles, for $4200 There's a pretty nice sxv for sale at advrider. Just sayin.
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PaintVagrant posted:Wait haven't we all? If it works I might do it when I finally get another sumo.
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builds character posted:There's a pretty nice sxv for sale at advrider. Just sayin. Yeah, I saw that posted elsewhere - same dude was selling a WR250x with a turbo kit (!!). The one I'm talking about is on the AF1 forums . There was a guy here in town who had an SXV 5.5; he had the cases apart twice inside of three months, clutch fibers and something else that I'm forgetting. Totally awesome when it was running, but that bike is straight up high maintenance. Maybe Amauri is cool riding his for commuter duty and just changing the engine and gear oil every 300 miles, but I'm barely even a shade tree mechanic and there's no Aprilia mechanic I'd trust anywhere nearby. Hell, I just sold my 690 SMC to Coydog because I wasn't riding it enough and I never had a single issue with it. I don't think buying an insane bike I'd constantly worry about blowing up under me is the wisest move.
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