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Ratzap
Jun 9, 2012

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Xenoborg posted:

Would a cat eat goldfish (the crackers)? My mom keeps small bowls of snacks out on the counter, and recently put out some goldfish. Now she claims that our 12 year old cat is eating them. I'll admit they do look sort of pushed around like she stuck her face in the bowl, but I wouldn't think a cat would have any interest in crackers. No other snacks like m&ms or ritz crackers have been disturbed in the past.

I would not be surprised. My girl cat (14 y/o) eats the following if given a chance: doritos, popadoms, chips, rice cakes, bombay mix... If it's crunchy and I'm eating it she'll have some too thanks.

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Ratzap
Jun 9, 2012

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marshmallard posted:

I cut one of Hat's claws too short because he was wriggling :( now it's bleeding everywhere. Is there anything I can do for him?

You cut the quick, if you cut too much or deep the claw may not grow back perfectly in future. Otherwise it's just painful for him until it clots. If he uses a litter tray keep an eye out that it doesn't get dirty/infected but apart from that, give him some tuna, say sorry and promise not to do it again ;)

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Jun 9, 2012

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Delayed Reaction posted:

I went through a reduced rate program and the anesthesia was included as was the rabies shot. The only extras I was asked to pay more for were the take home pain killers and a whole sheet of other things that I did read carefully and deemed unnecessary until a later visit when my first paycheck comes in a few weeks. I'm sure yours was knocked out and given pain killers. I suppose some vets may not think the take home meds are needed depending on the procedure. I believe fixing females is more involved than the males also.

Spaying a female involves removal of the uterus and ovaries generally through a small abdominal incision (your cat will have a shaved patch on her side with a couple of stitches, self dissolving or other). Unless they had trouble finding all the parts to remove, vets here generally don't give any pain meds to take home as the shots they get in the surgery cover it. They feel tender for a few days of course but then she needs to be fairly quiet and let it heal without leaping around all over the place.

If you're going back for vaccinations, you might want to read this link: http://www.catinfo.org/?link=vaccines

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Jun 9, 2012

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Topoisomerase posted:

Most places in the US don't do flank spays, so the incision will not be on the cat's side. Also, it's still major abdominal surgery and newer ideas are getting away from the whole "let them be in pain so they don't run around" thing because that's pretty drat cruel.

Pain control is something that we have generally historically done a pretty piss-poor job with in vet med. Part of the problem is recognizing signs of pain. That being said, many cats probably do rebound pretty quickly, but this isn't really a great justification for downplaying the idea of controlling pain in spayed cats.

Yeah I asked a vet about this a few years ago and that was the response I got. They don't give us any painkillers for spayed cats which you would think would be painful (vet told us once: they deal with pain differently. Even so you'd think pain is pain right?) but then when they take a tooth or two out as part of a dental they give painkillers.

On the subject of vaccinations, what would you then recommend HelloSailorSign? The whole subject of duration of immunity seems to be unnecessarily murky assuming the research is on the level.

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Jun 9, 2012

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HelloSailorSign posted:

Vaccines and their frequency of administration are highly dependent on the surrounding location and environment of the cat. Where I live, if a young adult cat came in as a stray rescue, I wouldn't run a titer for panleukopenia, I'd just vaccinate it. Vaccine reactions are far more rare than the diseases they're meant to protect. There's a huge feral cat population, many people try and take in stray cats, many cats frequently are indoor/outdoor, and many indoor only cats frequently escape. I do 1yr Rabies and 3yr FVRCP/FeLV (after kitten series). If I was in a different location with a different client base, then I might stop vaccinating (completely up to client discussion at that point) for FeLV/FVRCP around 4 years depending. The main thing I'm mad about is that she makes token remarks towards taking exposure in mind, but in reality that's a major factor in vaccine administration.

It's true, duration of immunity hasn't been worked out for many of these things. Titers themselves may or may not let you know if an animal has sufficient immune response because the levels necessary for coverage aren't known. That's also why I don't like her recommendations - it's essentially taking owned cats and using them as the guinea pigs in uncontrolled (scientifically) environments and trying to base conclusions off that.

I haven't seen any convincing research that vaccines are implicated in chronic kidney disease, yet that's a concern she lists for vaccination. In fact, the article on kidney inflammation that she quotes as showing that the FVRCP vaccine is "proven to cause kidney inflammation" says no such thing. In fact, the compound the researchers implicated in maybe causing the inflammation was found to cause the most inflammation in one of the cats that got the lowest amount of the compound. As their sample sizes were also very low, they said, as was reasonable, that the compound (which can be found in commercial vaccines) may cause patient specific kidney inflammation but that more research was needed. There certainly are known cases of immune overreaction to anything that can stimulate immune response - but those cases are extraordinarily rare.

Thanks very much for the reply, so basically she's hyped it up and gone to 11. I'm in the UK, rural mid Scotland to be precise and we kind of wondered why the vets here used different vaccines than the ones 40 miles away in Edinburgh. Thankfully the UK has no rabies so we don't have to worry about that. I have a 14 year old female and a 13 year old male, both neutered. They were vaccinated as kittens and had boosters for 12 years but they have so little contact with other cats out here, I've just had them in to the checkup this year and skipped the boosters. They barely go outside anymore either, just to sun themselves in good weather and with an RFID cat flap they're safe when they duck indoors again.

I'm glad to hear the kidney inflammation is overblown, the idea of paying to damage my cats every year was upsetting to say the least. The whole thing is likely to rumble on for some time yet I suppose.

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Jun 9, 2012

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Huntersoninski posted:

Not really a question, but if anybody has considered buying pet insurance, I'm grateful for Pet Plan today! My plan just saved me $450 with Ozma's x-rays.

For healthy young(ish) cats yes. Cats with preconditions or older cats tend to cost a lot and have a fair number of restrictions. For those kinds of things you're better off putting the money aside every month as a vet slush fund.

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Jun 9, 2012

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Tamarillo posted:

One of mine does this to me (and tries to suck on my face, neck and earlobes at the same time which is an utterly foul but seemingly unbreakable habit)

Isn't it just. I have a 13 year old neutered tom and I've been trying to get him to stop nibbling/licking me all the time I've had him. Worst is waking up with a patch of my head soaking wet and my contented lad wrapped round on my pillow 'washing' me. :barf: I *know* where that tongue has been...

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Jun 9, 2012

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Stroop There It Is posted:

I'm glad she came back, Atoramos. :unsmith:

Yeah uh my one-year-old neutered cat only kneads when he finds a soft blanket he wants to hump, especially fleece. He was already neutered by 6 months, when I adopted him, so I have no idea where this came from. :confused: I guess now I just can't leave those blankets out unattended...

There's an uncommon condition where a testicle is undescended or they leave a piece behind. Does his urine smell of un-neutered tom? You might want to ask a vet to check if you think they might have missed something.

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Jun 9, 2012

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Eggplant Wizard posted:

Unfortunately I have known lots of neutered cats who hump and get little cat erections on soft things.

OK, I'll be content with my lick/nibbler guy then ;) I mentioned it purely because the rescue my mother runs had 3 cats in the last couple of years with exactly that sort of problem. 1 was undescended and the other 2 were borked neuterings, I've never seen a humper in the hundreds of cats we've had through.

Quote-Unquote, which bit does she lick exactly? My cat gets cystitis now and again which makes her try to pee a lot and lick her vagina constantly. Dunno about worms. Crusty skin could lots of things: be rolling in sand, flea dirt?

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Jun 9, 2012

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Quote-Unquote posted:

It looks like her anus to me - it looks very red and inflamed. Also her fur is quite matted, but she doesn't seem to be scratching herself so assuming it's not fleas. My neighbours are kinda jerks so I'm reluctant to say anything unless I'm sure something is wrong.

Sounds like she's pretty uncomfortable really and probably needs a vet visit. Persuading disinterested owners to do something can be more than a bist difficult though. Try talking to them if possible or is there a charity or animal service you could ring? Here in the UK there's the SPCA who have some limited powers to intervene if owners will not look after animals.

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Jun 9, 2012

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Superb, thanks for posting that link, it made my day. Like many cat owners I tend to imagine what the cat is saying at various situations so that video hit the spot.

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Jun 9, 2012

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Minarchist posted:

So I have a small orphan kitten I'm fostering until I can adopt him out. He's about 5 1/2 weeks old, and I'm trying to get him to start eating from a bowl/plate. He actively recoils from the bowl and won't even try to sniff the food in it so I still have to feed him from the bottle. Is there like a time limit to when this becomes a problem? He has teeth, and could probably eat wet kitten food on his own without me having to mix it with KMR 2nd Step.

It's not just the teeth, their bowels have to develop too. By 6 weeks they usually develop an interest in wet food and biscuits (perversely the little sods generally eat their mothers adult food and she polishes off the kitten stuff but I digress). If he/she is small and underdeveloped it may take a little while longer. Have patience and so long as his/her weight is not dropping off just keep offering small portions. If he/she is losing weight or not looking well -> to the vet.

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Jun 9, 2012

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A SWEATY FATBEARD posted:

My cat is a bad aimer apparently. This is the second time this week I've found a blob of poo poo stuck to the brim of the litterbox, with a little bit on the floor. These incidents happen only during the night, and since my cat has only one eye and it's really loving dark in the bathroom - maybe she can't see where the poop is going? Should I leave the light on for her during the night?

Oh, and she woke me up at 3 in the morning by coming to lie down next to me and then suddenly sneezing into my face.

Yep, it's a normal cat (both the poop aim and sneezing ;) ). We've had quite a lot come through with that litter tray problem, their feet are in the tray so it's cool right? The solution is the covered trays - cat arse can no longer hang over the edge. Some cats don't like going into them though and of course some cats think they're wonderful hidey holes.

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Jun 9, 2012

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l33t b4c0n posted:

It's as if she thinks she's not getting as much food as Ethel, when in reality she gets more - it's just gone much faster because of her awful habits. I'm not a cat behavior specialist, but I need her to calm down and get her to pace herself. Any suggestions?

Are they rescue cats? It's common for cats who have been living rough or born feral to behave like every meal is their last (it probably stems from have been starving). Some cats get over it in time, others will stay that way for their entire lives and you're right, it's a headache in multicat households.

I've never known of anyone managing to change a cat like that (though like I said, some change by themselves). The two cats I have currently are similar: Buffy always eats first, she shoves Oliver off if there's only one bowl and eats fast then pushes him off his when there's two. They've been living together like this for 13 years now and show no signs of changing, Oli just seems to accept that his food is always Buffy spit flavoured ;)

The least problematic solution I found (which I stick to) is when I feed them I put down 2 portions of wet and there are always biscuits available. Buffy fills herself up and wanders off, Oli gets to rummage in what's left. Sometimes if I know Buffy is asleep I'll put the cooker hood on to mask the noise and give Oli a bowl of fresh all for himself.

If you find something that works, please tell as I'd love to try it.

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Jun 9, 2012

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Serella posted:

I don't know about the UK, but cat mills and bybs are totally a thing here. Any old moron with two purebred animals can decide they're a breeder. It doesn't mean you're getting a healthy animal or even a good representation of the breed, just that it's the progeny of two cats of that breed.

Besides, people who just purchase animals form breeders like that without much forethought or planning are very prone to dumping them at the shelter when they realize PETS ARE HARD :saddowns:

Yep, very much prevalent in the UK too, we've seen a few come through recently (Bengals mostly). Bengals seem to be prone to behavioral problems (maybe the inbreeding doesn't help?) but 2 in the last 4 years that I know of were put down as they were just too violent to keep as pets.

I should add that if you pick a purebred up from a shelter, go and see it before committing to taking it as you need to know what the temperament is like.

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Jun 9, 2012

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Stemmler posted:

I just got a kitten on the 4th of July, he is 13 1/2 weeks old. I've had cats all my life but this is the first one I've have in my own apartment.

For the most part he has been well behaved for a kitten. The one behavior we want to try to stop is him jumping up on the tables and counters. He's not big enough to get to the counter yet but can get on the chair then to the table.

Lovely little tabby you have there :3:

Give up the futile resistance and just consider the little rear end rings on your surfaces as extra immune system challenges ;)

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Jun 9, 2012

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Rabbit Hill posted:

The other is a tabby kitten, 4-5 months old, was hiding under the bed as of a few minutes ago. But then I heard the big one meow, so I went into the room, and saw the big one meowing at the little one under the bed, and the little one came out, rubbed up against him, and is now following his lead and exploring the house. This is just so cute.

Good choice, a pair of cats that like each other isn't that common but it's a lovely thing to see. Sounds like the shelter tried to keep them together as well (most will do all they can not to split up obvious pairs or groups). Adorable pictures :3:

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Jun 9, 2012

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If they have been strays, they probably need worming (though the rescue should have done that, have you asked them?). If the vomit isn't bloody I wouldn't sweat it. Have a poke around in the next puke and see if there are worms being shed (if you're not squeamish that is).

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Jun 9, 2012

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Blinks posted:

Meet Benjamin Cat

Introductions are going well, Arthur has already sniffed at the bathroom door when Benjamin was meowing behind it, and he was totally chilled about it. Thanks again.

He's beautiful, very similar to a cat I had some years back. I hope he gets better with no complications (and wipe his arse for him ;) No leaving with cling-ons).

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Jun 9, 2012

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Drink and Fight posted:

They probably meant cut up a gym sock and make him wear it like a sweater. Where are the scabs?

This ^^^

Looking back 1 page at the photos though, that's a tough spot to put something and make it stay there. Cut the toe off a sock and 2 holes in the sides at one end might work. Slide it over his head (he probably won't like that) the holes end first and get it all round his neck covering the scabs. Then get his legs through the side holes, should stop it coming off so easily.

Good luck, squirmy cat awaits you :)

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Jun 9, 2012

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Pander posted:

I'm making a concerted effort to exercise her more, but I was wondering if anyone could also recommend a high-quality low-cal cat food, if there is such a thing.

Senior cat food has less calories I think, mine are on it as they're both over 13 and rather tubby. It's stopped their weight gain for sure, ask a vet if it's appropriate to give senior food to a younger cat? You wouldn't want to get the nutritional balance too wrong.

Also I;m thinking a good brand carb free biscuit would help. I give mine 'Orijen', canadian stuff - they seem to like it and it's carb free meaning no empty calories.

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Jun 9, 2012

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HEGEL CURES THESES posted:

Sometimes, cats like to scamper about.

Yep, even old cats. My 2 are both over 13 years old but they both love their cat drugs and race round the housegarden like mad things a couple of times a day. Get one of those fishing line toys and next time she goes nuts, play with her.

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Jun 9, 2012

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duckfarts posted:

No, these are great toys. My latest great toy: a cardboard box I took a folding knife to to cut some small windows in. It is now a favorite hangout or play area if I drop a sparkle pompom ball on it.

Everything bigger than a cubic foot that arrives here turns into "Buffy's Castle" for a while. At the very latest 2 or 3 months, she plays in there, hides from Oliver when he's in a thumping mood and butchers some of her kills in there... I check it every few days and if there are blood patches or body parts she gets a fresh box ;)

These are from a few years back but I was killing myself laughing at the time. I got a new part and just dumped the box on my kitchen table while I unpacked it and started fiddling with it. I looked up and Buffy was in it with a wild look in her eyes shredding bits if paper. As soon as she got bored and left, Oliver squeezed into it (he's a big lad).



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Jun 9, 2012

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fspades posted:

Here is a stupid one: Are laser pointers good cat toys? Mine goes crazy for it, always giving his A-effort and panting afterwards but I feel like he gets frustrated and nervous when I eventually turn it off. Poor thing stands guard in vain where he last saw it. Am I teaching him being a lovely cat who can't catch a thing? :downs:

I tried a pointer with my two but they just ignored it /shrug

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Jun 9, 2012

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He's looking better and bigger than the last photo you posted which is good. One thing you can look for is his ears, watch your other cat as an example. Say someone clangs a pot in the kitchen, normally a cats ears will flip round to listen for it, if his don't, he's not hearing it.

So subtle noises and observation rather than hand clapping. Is there someone else in the house who can help you set up experiments?

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Jun 9, 2012

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Bananaquiter posted:

This seems crazy to me, what if your cat has to go at 3am? What if it is pouring rain outside? As a child I always had indoor/outdoor cats but still always had a box in the house. Is this some widespread practice that I'm not aware of? Am I a huge jerk for rejecting the adoption?

Some cats may prefer outside but refusing point blank to ever have a tray indoors? That's pretty radical.

As an example, my cats will not use trays or go inside the house unless they are confined to one room/area for some reason. Every winter I put trays down and every spring I lift them again having never once found anything in them while cleaning them (no waste, it gets sieved and put back - not like it smells or anything).
They dash out under a bush if it's raining and when it snows I clear a path for them. But at least they have the option, personally I (like you it seems) feel that distinction is important.

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Jun 9, 2012

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Geno posted:

Last night, right when I was about to go to sleep, my cat just pooped in his litter box and he came out just somber/sad. His tail was down and there was something off. He would cry randomly and this is the way he sat:

http://i.imgur.com/tclDvX6.jpg

I fed him and he ate but it was strange to hear him cry. This is probably the second time that this has happened in the past two weeks. He would also only cry when I was near him or petting him. Once I fell asleep, I didn’t hear him crying or anything overnight. The next morning, he was chill as usual but I have no idea why he’s crying.

The last vet check up was about a month ago and the vet didn’t see anything out of the ordinary.

Is he neutered? Does his bum smell or sensitive close to it? I'm thinking maybe impacted/infected anal glands, that's fairly common and I remember my girl cat was not happy when she had it. Basically though, vet if you're worried or it happens more.

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Jun 9, 2012

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Geno posted:

Yeah, he's neutered. He did appear to lick near his anus/tail a lot. Maybe he's constipated? There appears to be less poop than before.

The only thing I've noticed with his diet is that he eats a lot slower than before. Last year, he would devour a can of food but the past month or so, he eats like 1/4 of it at first but he does eventually finish it within a couple of hours and will always run for food/treats.

Just keep an eye on him if it's only happened once, it may have been as simple as a bone fragment scraping on the way out. If it reoccurs though or if you feel something has changed give your vet a ring.

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Jun 9, 2012

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HelloSailorSign posted:

Does the cat eat things with bones in it?

I've found bone fragments in some tinned brands (one reason I switched to all pouches).

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Jun 9, 2012

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Marathanes posted:

I intend to adopt two cats soon from a rescue which specializes in the rehabilitation and adoption of sick and injured stray cats. Many of their cats are injured, disabled or FIV+, so any general insight into these concerns (in addition to the wealth in the OP and throughout the thread) would be appreciated. I've been following the thread for a while and many of my questions have been answered, but I was wondering if anyone may have any experience or insight into a few questions I have that are lingering.

Are there any special, non obvious concerns when dealing with a one eyed cat? Is the lack of depth perception detrimental, or does it cause them to slam into walls (I have hardwood floors, so don't want any drifting accidents).

The group I'm with doesn't put down FIV+ cats and we've had some experience with them in the last 10 or 15 years. If the cat is otherwise healthy and friendly enough to home it'll be cared for until someone like yourself comes forward to take it on. 1 or 2 have gone to cat people as long term fosters after it was clear no-one was coming forward. It's one of those 'it depends' things, the cats demeanor and health are the prime factors, age less so. It's best if FIV+ cats stay separated from other cats wherever they end up though as it's a blood and saliva transmission. Indoors or a well built run attached to the house.

One eyed cats: Had many of these sadly what with loads of nutjobs letting cats breed uncontrolled with no care and little to no food. Cat flu, dead kittens and eye infections for everyone (the SSPCA won't even go to these places). They get around just fine, catch mice and do all the normal cat stuff.

One legged: well there's Lotus. She still has the 4th leg attached but the 4 airgun pellets took care of any use she might get from it. There's one pellet left pressing on her spinal cord which couldn't be removed (lovely children we get round here). She's about 14 or 15 now, runs around like a mad thing still. She climbs trees and catches mice.

Good on you BTW and the folk running that place. Hope this helps.

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triskadekaphilia posted:

Literally the only thing that got my fatass cat to (mostly) shut up about food was an automatic feeder, which I guess doesn't do so well for wet food :(

No, you can get them and mine use them no problem. Like this You can get them with cooler trays too but being in Scotland that wasn't necessary for me. When I was working longer hours and out of the house for over 14h I'd set two singles out when I left set for lunchtime and early evening.

With those kittens, a manual or remote control trap sounds like the best bet. Over here, you'd ring any local cat group (even some vets have traps) and either borrow a trap or they'd go get them. No idea what is customary where you are though but I hope you can find something.

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BearDrivingTruck posted:

So, my family's cat, who we've had since I was 10, got really sick on Friday and had to be put down last night. I wasn't able to be there, since I'm in college, but I can't help but wonder if there was anything I could have done, even though I know I couldn't. How have all of you coped in the past? Does spending time around other cats help?

I'm sorry to hear that but it's a cruel fact of life that we outlive our pets by many multiples. It's these sudden deaths (sickness or accidental) of younger pets that hurt me personally the most but you can always comfort yourself that you contributed to his/her happy life. 10 isn't ancient sure but it's a decent span, he or she had a good life cared for by people who enjoyed having the cat around right? Remember the bright moments, the fun parts and try not to dwell too much on 'what if' or 'could we have done'.

And yes, having other cats has helped me in the past but then again, they also mourn (or at least miss the one who's gone) which can be quite heartbreaking to see and hear.

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Goodpancakes posted:

Well it turns out that this cat wasn't a stray. She had no collar and no electronic tag. But about a week after committing this cat we got a call from the shelter. This was someones cat, they lived around our apartment, and they picked up the cat. That was that. Except after a week of constant rain the cat showed up again. It is now back inside our apartment chilling with us. We really like this cat, its really sweet and very friendly, but we know for sure she has an owner. How lovely is this cat owner that feeding this cat once and it basically adopted us. If we don't kick this cat out occasionally it would live here forever likely. What is to be done about this cat?

This is very cat behaviour. We get them in all the time from concerned people who have been feeding a cat in their garden or that comes into their homes. All very laudable and good so far but they are much loved pets who just happen to enjoy company/food so much they have a 'round' in the area they live in.

So the answer is you'll need to go round and find out for yourselves. The cat may not be happy there (children, new other pets and many things will drive a cat out), may not be cared for or it could be a loved and pampered pet who just likes to scrounge off anyone kind enough to feed it.

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Eeyo posted:

I guess tortoiseshells have a reputation for being obnoxious or something, but she's been very well behaved. Other than the carrier incident but that's probably mostly me for not just getting it over with. At least she doesn't hold a grudge against me for the whole thing.

And do some cats not like treats? I've bought her 2 types and she didn't really like either of them. I got her some "Blue" tuna chewy bites (just sniffs them and moves on) and some freeze dried chicken pieces (sniffs them and moves on). Is there anything that's different from those 2 types? Or is it the meat type?

She's lovely but brindle torties do have a reputation for being nuts rather than obnoxious. I'll raise you a photo of my girl



She unlike yours eats anything treat-like. Try dreamies or the felix treats, most cats I know will go for those.

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Miyamotos RGB NES posted:

My friend just called me up and he is pretty frantic. I used to live in NYC but moved to Vermont so I am a good 5+ hours from him, so I can't help him in person. He called me because he knows I love cats. I am at work right now so I can't mess around on the internet/on my phone much. Can anyone give me good advice to give him please? He just found a cat out in the middle of the street. Very small but not a newborn. Eyes are closed shut with gunk. He said the gunk is green and smells like a dead body.

The eye gunk is fairly typical in cat flu and will need treating properly. I've heard of rescues refusing to take in a cat with flu but never a vet. If not cleared up quickly and effectively it can lead to having to remove eyeball(s) or the inner lid fused to the cornea. If it has an eye infection that advanced it's going to be hungry, thirsty and probably have some sort of parasites. It needs a vet, rear end in a top hat or not there has to be a professional who will see it and it needs one soon to keep it's sight.

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HelloSailorSign posted:

Exactly. However, the hard part may be that the nearby vets are "filled up" of kittens. Very young kittens can take a lot of work, especially if they're being passed off (as in, not being owned) to the vet, and usually a vet will have 1-2 people who deal with young kittens like that. You can only take so many before you end up not sleeping, ever, so since they still have to go to work, they limit the number they take.

Ok, that's fair enough. There seem to be more vets than work for them round here though which is probably why I've not been knocked back by one yet (thinking about it, it's a wonder they all still practice because there are simply more than are needed - or perhaps the farm business here in ruralshire keeps them going).

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JayJay posted:

:3: I love torties so much. They are really the weirdest of all cats. Some of them are just nuts.

I think it's harder to get them adopted then it is black cats at our shelter. :(

I'm a sucker for gingers, tabbys and torties but character trumps looks every day. I could stare at Buffy (the cat in the photo) for ages when she wanders around. Different light levels and angles change the colours and features in her coat as she moves. And when she ducks under a bush into shadow she's all but invisible, great camo pattern.

Here in Scotland we find it hardest to move on long haired cats, we finally got 2 rehomed this week that had been in a pen for over 10 months. But as I keep telling my mother (who runs the group) it beats them living rough or being put to sleep. I'd say a good 60% of all the cats we get in are pure black or black and white - it must be the gene pool here.

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Jun 9, 2012

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Organza Quiz posted:

I understand the whole thing about cats needing mostly protein, but "grain free" doesn't actually seem to mean "more protein" when the "grain" part has just been replaced with another vegetable not known for being full of protein. I don't know about the USA, but cat foods here in Australia all have labels that specify the percentage protein, fat etc content of the food. When I've checked, the "grain free" foods seem to have exactly the same percentage protein as the ones that have grains, usually around 30-38%. They're still full of vegetable, it's just that it's pumpkin or tapioca or whatever instead of corn. What I want to know is if there's an actual nutritional difference depending on the part of the food that isn't protein/fat/essential vitamins.

I buy my cats Orijen which is one of the brands available, their blurb has this to say:

In place of the high-glycemic grains found in conventional dry cat foods, ORIJEN's fruits and greens supply natural antioxidants, while veterinarian selected botanicals satisfy your cat's instinct to forage for grasses and weeds.

So basically what you said but the reasons for it. My old cats are losing weight and look in great condition on this stuff and senior wet foods (biscuits are always available for them, they don't pig out thankfully). High carbohydrates in cheap supermarket brands are not good, at least these kinds of brands think about what goes into the package. My cats also eat less overall (they seem to stay satiated longer) so it's not that much more expensive.

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Jun 9, 2012

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Geno posted:

Thanks for the info. Just talked to my vet. She said from the urinary analysis, my cat is lacking a bit in the water department and will need to eat just wet food for at least a week. I'm curious if I should put in water in the wet food or should it already be enough?

Generally, my cat will try the litter box first and if he can't go there, he'll go somewhere on my kitchen. The good thing is that he does urinate easily instead of straining and getting a droplet or two out. Any tips for trying to make him stick to the litter box?

I can't help with the litter tray but do you have a pet drinker (or pet fountain)? The encourage cats to drink more as the moving water (and some have coolers too) seems to be more appetizing to the cat than a static bowl. They're not too expensive and the extra drinks help cut the risk of kidney problems as well over the long term.

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Jun 9, 2012

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Serella posted:

If it gets impacted, it could get infected. You should run by the vet to have it expressed, if indeed it is an anal gland issue.

Yep, you do not want to try and clean that out yourself. The infected stuff smells nasty and I mean seriously, dear god tear open the windows and pass the bleach nasty. Kitty will also have a hissy fit when they start getting squeezed too. This is one of those things you want the vet and some poor slob of a vet nurse who didn't duck down fast enough to take care of for you.
Stand well back because I've seen that stuff spray quite a distance.

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