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up tha wurld Major, let me know if this posting style is obnoxious or distracting and I can just go back to regular text. It was fun in the Aminal Warz thread and I'll try to keep it both appropriate to the setting and on topic. for purposes of tallying, ##Brut-05
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# ¿ May 3, 2010 14:51 |
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# ¿ Apr 28, 2024 14:38 |
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on the RP front (just my own opinions): characters should be the means to an end, not an end in themselves. They should spice up and add flavour to discussion of which animal would win and why, and that should be all they do. If you're going to make a post with no mention of the two contestants, then what is it adding for the people reading the thread? not a lot. Remember the purpose of the posts here that are not by the zoofights team is to provide fodder for the main event, the fights.
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# ¿ May 3, 2010 15:15 |
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The first couple of zoofights threads were just that, and they worked pretty well Again, this is just my personal take, not official dictation etc etc. And like I said, I LIKE a bit of RP, but when there are five posts in a row consisting of fictional characters basically chatting about off topic stuff and NOT discussing who would win in a fight between a cyborg warthog and an antigravity squid with kinetic weaponary, then it gets a bit tiresome for the people not actually involved in the conversation. To me, the best bits of the threads (other than the teams posts of course) are the deadpan arguments about the contestants. So it's great when a Victorian big game hunter persona discusses the minutae of warthog behaviour and how it would kill a squid with its tusks viewed through the lens of his experience, but when that same persona makes a rambling post about how he doesn't like some robot character and what drink he is ordering with nary a mention of the actual creatures, 99% of the people in the thread simply do not read it. There are very rare exceptions, such as Lily Limbcakes, but these are unusual (and remember lily most definitely sprung from on topic roleplay, she was a member of one of the fighting teams originally if I recall correctly). The settings are there to add a bit of flavour and background to the actual fights, not form some freeform RP setting God, I sound like such a killjoy.
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# ¿ May 3, 2010 17:29 |
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##Snake Preview
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# ¿ May 4, 2010 17:37 |
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TwingeCrag posted:Awesome, but X and Y should be totals rather than averages
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# ¿ May 21, 2010 10:32 |
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Ever since the Ryugyong Love of the Glorious Leader Floating Ziggurat was revealed to be made of papier mache and held up on perspex rods by an army of 40,000 political prisoners, there have been serious doubts about the honesty and reliability of North Korean tech. I wouldn't be at all surprised if it turns out the weaponary and armour of Great Leap Forward is indeed made out of melted down pots and pans, and so full of impurities and bits of burnt food that it just shatters as soon as it makes contact with anything harder than loam. Even if the weaponary works, there's a very high likelihood the genetic and behavioural modifications to the grasshopper underneath all that tech won't have taken properly. Grasshoppers are prey animals, not predators, and are naturally flighty and nervous. Great Leap Forward is used to attacking enemies no more dangerous than mud and sticks, he's just not prepared to take on a vicious, armoured foe with the strength of his convictions. Instinct will take over and he will attempt to escape, not attack There's a small chance than the Party has managed to kidnap and threaten enough gifted scientists and engineers that their monstrosity will actually work as intended. This will still mean nothing. ##THE SNAPTURE is a goddamn truck sized Snapping Turtle. Even a regular snapper has the strength and resilience to scare off an alligator, how could a drat INSECT beat one 100 times that size? Add to that the fact the armour on his back is going to be a good 8 inches thick, not to mention that even his "soft" parts are going to be like goddamn granite compared to the thin crunchy coating on the grasshopper. A NORMAL snapping turtle has a bite pressure of 1500 psi, and The Snapture is no ordinary snapping turtle. If he can get a hold on the bug, it doesn't stand a chance Speed may of course be an issue. But contrary to popular conception, grasshoppers are not speedy animals. Sure their jump has a great deal of power behind it, but everyone forgets the jump is a flight response, not a fight response. It's a retreat, not a charge, and is wildly inaccurate. When actually trying to aim and bring his substandard weapons to bear, Great Leap Forward will be forced to use his forelimbs, not the powerful but uncontrollable hind, and will be reduced to a shambling slowpoke. Finally, there's the issue of actually harming The Snapture. As previously said, the shell of the beast is probably 8 inches thick, and unlike brittle stone, has enough flex and malleability not to shatter under pressure. That covers the vast majority of the biting behemoth, with just the tail, limbs and head exposed. But it would do Great Leap Forward little to no good to go for the tail or legs, the armour there may not be of the calibur of the shell, but iron hard scales will still be 2 inches thick, and would require sustained attack in a single spot, something Snapture will never allow. The same goes for the head. The only way the insect stands a chance of hurting Snapture is to go for the soft tissues; the eyes, and the inside of the mouth. And if anyone gets close enough to attack the inside of a mouth capable of exerting thousands of psi on the end of a neck than can snake to 3 times its resting length and under the control of a mind which volunteered for the zoofights, I wouldn't rate their chances.
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# ¿ May 23, 2010 11:12 |
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MEMEME! wait, I don't have a character um...here's a GIS'ed picture of a kraken? Click here for the full 550x831 image.
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# ¿ May 23, 2010 21:19 |
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tentacles are a weapon right?
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# ¿ May 23, 2010 22:02 |
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Oh No! Oh well, no Gorillian dollars today. And I really wanted those 15 votes too. Maybe next time
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# ¿ May 23, 2010 23:35 |
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holy poo poo the art is AMAZING, Snapture is now my new desktop
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# ¿ May 25, 2010 02:13 |
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OH GOD YES
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# ¿ May 25, 2010 02:38 |
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Hey guys, what does this look like to you? 'Cause to me It looks like A Boat ##Commodore Croctopus
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# ¿ Jun 28, 2010 23:24 |
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Fantastic ending I'd be fine with a ##longer season, however, I'm still a bit less keen on the (heavy) RP posts than the people making them seem to be. Even though many of them (Gezora, Lily Limbcakes from last year, fight yer mates) add to the tournament, I think too often they can drive people away from the thread when they get too involved, and drift too far from disscussing which ridiculous fictional beast would win in a fight to the death. Doing this in character? great. Chaos emeralds and endless background? not gonna read 'em, would rather not have to skim 50 posts of RP for every reasoned argument. The RP also creates a much bigger divide between the threads and the site, and fragments the thread itself. I'm just worried that if there's too long between fights, people in the thread will get bored and there'll be even more off topic RP. So maybe either closing threads in downtime, or a new thread for each fight would be best. For merch: I would buy a print of Snapture (that really good painted pic). There's been some AMAZING artwork. There are online services that will print on demand, so you don't have to worry about stock. Obviously you'd need to discuss it with the individual artists, but as you say all the money is being ploughed back into the tournament. Or maybe let each artist set up a zoofights-specific account on Deviantart or whatever (they offer a print service) and link it from the main site. A card game would be sweet, but to really capture that zoofights feel you'd need to find a mechanic that allowed the knockout tournament system to remain, and upgraded each winning critter between battles. Also, lots of cards to reverse your fortunes, including a special card called "random factor, like a tractor". The Zoofights magic is lots of fakeouts and surprises, not just shaving off each others hit points until attrition finishes one of you off. If you can capture the unpredictability and excitement of your writing style, a card game could be amazing. Also making it expandable, so you can add new creatures without re buying the core game
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# ¿ Aug 23, 2010 16:34 |
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quote:If by no existing characters, you mean "no-one plays Snapture" or something similar, then I agree. If Major Failure or a close team member wants to do something with them, that's cool, but no-one should just pick up and play a character. I'd go one further and say I would personally prefer no preexisting characters. Dr Who, Dr Robotnik, all that (no offence to you guys, just plucked you out of the air and I skipped the vast bulk of your posts anyway, I'm sure the writing was fine). Gezora is the only one who gets a free pass because lets face it, the character he plays isn't exactly the Gezora of film fame, and obviously commentary characters controlled by the team like Al Swerengen are fine. Like I said, I like IC posting if you stick to the topic, and I did it myself in Aminal Warz and the first couple of rounds with a whole scrawled replies on cardboard gimmic. But when you basically make your own narrative that only you and 2-3 other people are participating in, it clutters the thread. I know I harp on about this, but it really does make it harder to participate when a couple of dozen people are making 3000 word posts where they argue *with themselves*. Also, the description of actions in posts (like "hi I'm Bob" Bob waves at you) are really really really annoying, they literally make me cringe. It changes it from "these guys are giving their verbal input to an argument" and turns it into some Gaia online bullshit.
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# ¿ Aug 23, 2010 22:50 |
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Also, dropping the griping, I'd love to help out next year. I can't really draw all that well, but I can do plasticene/mixed media models. Once I get my poo poo together, I'm tempted to try and make a rubber animation puppet of croctopus with a wire skeleton (not that I'll have time to animate him, but he'd be a neat monitor buddy)
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# ¿ Aug 23, 2010 23:27 |
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PoapSoap posted:
Yeah, going back on some of my more extreme statements, this seems a happy medium. Don't RP to interact with each other and create your own stories, RP to interact with Zoofights and enrich the zoofights storyline. man, I need to ## take myself less seriously
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# ¿ Aug 24, 2010 15:37 |
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The Mad Hatter posted:
from the OP of this actual thread Major Failure posted:The outcome of the fight will be decided by your arguments, your conviction and your anger. Make clear which contender you think will win the brawl, and if possible shout down and rubbish anyone who disagrees with you. So yeah, your idea has been in effect from the word go, the only difference is they don't actually announce the outcome (which wouldn't be practical anyway, given the sheer number of posts, it would just bee unnecessary clutter)
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# ¿ Aug 25, 2010 22:32 |
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# ¿ Apr 28, 2024 14:38 |
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Major Failure and The crew do highlight what they thought were really good posts from time to time, and while not actually awarding points in public, it was very clear to me that these posts were being used to bump the scores of the competitors. I think a couple of times someone outright said a particular post made a big difference
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# ¿ Aug 25, 2010 22:59 |