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Fungah
Jul 2, 2003
Fungah! Foiled again!

Smirking_Serpent posted:

In one of the LF threads, there was a description of a (maybe Scandinavian?) European prison, where the prisoners had insanely better lives than US inmates. They were even allowed knives, because they needed a way to prepare dinner.

Yet, when the inmates were interviewed, they were still more than a little miserable and depressed, simply because they were locked up. Even with cable TV and facebook, they still had no freedom.

I think it's a mistake to assume that prison is a punishment because you lose your stuff. Losing your stuff sucks, but that's not what it's about. It's about taking away your agency. It's hard for us to comprehend.
Bastoy prison http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bast%C3%B8y_Prison in Norway is often mentioned in these threads.

In the LF thread there was someone who posted pics and a video from a brand new maximum security prison in Sweden where the inmates had a fully kitted out recording studio and $1M worth of artwork decorating the prisons.

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Fungah
Jul 2, 2003
Fungah! Foiled again!
Loveable British documentary maker Louis Theroux's new two-part programme on Miami county jail called "Miami Mega Jail" aired last night. A few years ago Theroux presented a documentary on San Quentin.

What struck me was that despite the fact that the inmates haven't been convicted of anything, conditions in the jail look even worse than those in San Quentin and it generally seems like an even more barbaric place. The guards genuinely didn't seem to care one bit. One even said they keep the most dangerous prisoners in an older part of the jail which is separated from the guards so the inmates can run it the way they want. Inmates were talking openly in front of guards about how they have to fight to establish a hierarchy and how they would extort weaker prisoners for money.

For UK goons its available on iPlayer, part 2 airs next Sunday at 9pm, BBC2. Its available on youtube here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Px2kTQKZaSU

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