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Liebfraumilch
Aug 17, 2008
I'm hoping this is the best place to ask, because it shouldn't need too much attention and it seems to be more "life experience stuff" than "legal megathread stuff" and searching for answers on Google brought up shady stuff. Anyway:

[redacted]

Liebfraumilch fucked around with this message at 19:55 on Oct 10, 2012

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Liebfraumilch
Aug 17, 2008

Abel Wingnut posted:

Is it still possible to see an user's old avatars?

This is what I have bookmarked.





\/\/\/ sorry--just trying to build up some good favor so someone answers my question upthread. :sun:

Liebfraumilch fucked around with this message at 00:40 on Feb 18, 2012

Liebfraumilch
Aug 17, 2008

Knightmare posted:

Go through and if you get stopped just claim ignorance.

This was on my mind last year when construction was blocking my apartment parking garage in for like a month. But then I kept wondering if I wouldn't end up falling through delicate grounds into some sort of sewage and gas-line hell with my car, so I just did grocery shopping on foot for that time... :ohdear:

Go for it, I guess, and if anyone is staring agape in complete horror and waving their hands in desperate "no" gestures, stop.

Liebfraumilch
Aug 17, 2008
What is the easiest way to find if a book has been translated into any other languages--preferably with a list of those languages?

For example, I want to find (unlikely, I know) if Calvin Luther Martin's work The Way of the Human Being has been translated into Turkish, so as to have mercy on my Turkish genius philosopher husband's comprehension of a book I enjoyed in college. (He can read English well for technical things and my personal nonsense, but a book like that might be too much so I hope to spring it on 'im in his native Turkish.) So I'm looking for a certain book...in a certain language.

Another example would be if I wanted to find some of the really easy-reading young-adult novels I loved when I was twelve--things by LJ Smith about witches and vampires and djinn...stuff I should be embarrassed about--in a foreign language that I am interested in improving in. With the studies I have already done in various languages, I think it would really be fun to re-read these books I have re-read about a hundred times as a kid and choose from a list of translations to decide if I will immerse and re-live my dorky childhood literature in Swedish, Norwegian, Dutch, French I guess, Welsh, Turkish, Arabic. I don't bloody care. I just want to see what my options are.

So is there a site that can help do this? ...or do I have to impotently poke around every individual publications site looking for this information, or scouring Amazon.com and using some sort of search filters I am not yet aware of? Or has my brain completely gone into pudding years after graduation and I have just publicly embarrassed myself?

Liebfraumilch
Aug 17, 2008

randyest posted:

Googling '"The Way of the Human Being" turkish' yielded this: http://www.aweo.org/Martin.html, which mentions this:

Author, The Way of the Human Being (Yale 1999). Winner of the Westchester County Library System's Anne Izard Storyteller's Choice Award 2000. See Calvin Luther Martin, Insanin Yolu, Turkish trans. by Ayse Sirin Okyayuz Yener (Phoenix 2002).

Googling 'Ayse Sirin Okyayuz Yener (Phoenix 2002)' leads to this:

http://books.google.com/books/about/The_Way_of_the_Human_Being.html?id=QHSuzceeHWYC

Which points to this apparent source for the Turkish translation available for £12.50:

http://www.ikiayayincilik.com.tr/root/a/pdet.asp?rsi=ztiva

But perhaps more importantly this:

Product Details
Barcode: 9789756565155
ISBN: 975656515-2
Size: 11.5 cm x 18.8 cm

The ISBN also leads to this http://www.yenisayfa.com/Kitap/img-...7d742be346a4821

...which seems to have the book cheaper (£9.37), but the ISBN might be enough to order it from your local bookseller or something. I know nothing of either of those sellers other than that they seem to have the book.


Awesome! Next step: money.


I guess I was getting too annoyed to plod onward. Thanks a lot.

Liebfraumilch
Aug 17, 2008

randyest posted:

No problem; I noted you asked how to do that in general and since I don't know of such a database of translations (unfortunately) I tried to show the method I used to do the search. But mostly I did it because I like your username (only decent white wine), that book, and Turkish things in general. I hope you can come up with the :10bux:; it sounds like a nice idea for a gift. Depending on where you live used books stores may also be an option, albeit a long shot for sure.

So I was like the perfect storm--I can live with that. (thanks again!) I really didn't expect to see that book translated into Turkish, so skepticism was dragging at my heels the whole time. I've recently moved near the University in Philadelphia, which may or may not prove handy. I have until March 30th to find out, though!

Liebfraumilch
Aug 17, 2008
Maybe it's from their neglected and overused contact lenses?

Liebfraumilch
Aug 17, 2008
I've heard to never, ever, evar put tomatoes in the fridge, but I am also hoping someone can post a more comprehensive list or rule of thumb because I buy fresh stuff all the time and the most thought I give it is whether it was refrigerated at the grocer.

Liebfraumilch
Aug 17, 2008
I think Wikipedia has ruined my mind; it has given me hope.

In rented films, whenever I see a misspelled subtitle or a simple grammatical error like "your/you're" on a movie, I want to fix it. I don't want to write a letter to the CEO to whine about my idiotic cause, I want to simply make the fix and leave it better than I found it. Is there a way for an unemployed, well-meaning good Samaritan to do this? I don't want to turn it into art or science; I just want to make it less confusing for people like my (ESL) fiance, and make it less subliminally assuring to idiots who make these errors every day and no one corrects them.

I have no podiums, torches or pitchforks. I just want to tidy up bigger mistakes when I see them. Can it happen?

Liebfraumilch
Aug 17, 2008

Popcorn posted:



Can someone explain this to me? I don't get the pun. I assume it's a pun, right?

"Nig" has the witty dual meaning of 1. racial slur and 2. ????

Re... jig? Re...nit? Renip? :confused: Does it depend on a better knowledge of the American electoral system than I have?

First thought was renege, which is going back on a deal and whatnot.



Right or wrong, their "clever pun" is not lost, of course.

Liebfraumilch
Aug 17, 2008

James Totes posted:

Beyond Craiglist and the Paper, what are some good resources for finding apartments?

I liked HotPads a lot.

Liebfraumilch
Aug 17, 2008

Xandu posted:

How do I stop Word from doing this?



If I start a new paragraph towards the end of the page, it ends up skipping to the next page and leaving too much space.

I'm having a hell of a time trying to find it in Word 2007 but that's called widows and orphans and I am still looking for something definite. Does the little lightning bolt formatting thing pop up when it divides there? If so, that is usually your shortcut to correcting formatting sorcery that Word does without your blessing.





Edit: Ah, glad to have helped somehow. I am old enough to have learned about archaic formatting terms in keyboarding class in ninth grade, and old-fashioned enough to still put two spaces after a period. :)

Liebfraumilch fucked around with this message at 23:58 on Apr 29, 2012

Liebfraumilch
Aug 17, 2008

I am a complete kitten among geeks, but this inspired me to play around. [redacted]

Liebfraumilch fucked around with this message at 18:12 on Oct 14, 2012

Liebfraumilch
Aug 17, 2008

CatchrNdRy posted:

What is the word for someone who takes advantage of a situation, not quite as advanced as an "opportunist"? For example, if my friends know I'm paying for dinner and then they are hitting up a little too much, and not being particularly grateful but not necessarily mooching since I offered. Not quite a freeloader because they don't impose but fully take advantage and are constantly on the look out for such.

? :haw:

Liebfraumilch fucked around with this message at 19:59 on Oct 10, 2012

Liebfraumilch
Aug 17, 2008
It was [redacted]

Liebfraumilch fucked around with this message at 18:12 on Oct 14, 2012

Liebfraumilch
Aug 17, 2008

Namarrgon posted:

I make it a hobby to put on crazy conspiracy theories on the background when I clean around the house or something. My question comes from the one I have on right now, about economic blablabla and the gold standard.

My question is; why do [Libertarians? I'm not entirely sure how they identify themselves] talk about an 'intrinsic value' of gold? I was under the impression gold was kinda useless for practical applications (besides high-tech applications, but that can't be enough to support an entire complex economy). All of these documentaries seem to strike down paper money as just 'having value because people agree it has value' but isn't that the exact same thing as would be the case with gold? I see it so much that I'm not sure if I am missing something here. I hope this is actually a small question.

I'm not officially answering this question, because I am not pretending I know, but something I heard in a high school mythology class from the teacher explaining some Norse myth and wergild or somesuch: gold doesn't tarnish. This simple explanation for attraction always made me smile, because it seems when you get right down to the basics of these things we take as eternally valuable, some were just pretty. At least copper can do serious :science:

But, really, there must be more to it than that?

Liebfraumilch
Aug 17, 2008
Can someone unburden my ailing brain of this question:

Was there an explorer in the Americas who described the Natives as marveling when man dismounted his horse, like they were watching a strange creature split itself in two?

It is seriously driving me crazy--I don't know if it is some misguided first-hand description I am thinking of, or a secondary source quoting the misguided description. I am reading through some of the likely places I first heard this with no luck so far, and there has to be a history goon around here somewhere.

Liebfraumilch
Aug 17, 2008

User-Friendly posted:

Pretty sure that was Pizarro and the Incas. I remember a brief mention in Guns Germs and Steel of such superstitions.

Ohhhhh thank you! This is looking right. It is too late to save my bookshelves, which are in shambles at this point, but thank you!



Edit: Could not find a direct quote for what I was remembering. Must have been a professor passing it along. But this--stuff from and on Jared Diamond--is so close I can at least sleep tonight.

Liebfraumilch fucked around with this message at 05:57 on May 18, 2012

Liebfraumilch
Aug 17, 2008

ElwoodCuse posted:

Don't come to Pennsylvania. As far as I can tell, all the "privatize liquor sales!" poo poo here means "Oh, you're still hosed about what you can buy and where you can buy it, but the liquor stores will be run by whoever bids the most instead of the PLCB". So it will mean jack poo poo to consumers, not have any long-term financial benefit to the state, and really only serve the purpose of busting the union of the people who currently work at the state-run liquor stores.

Moving from glorious Wisconsin to Philadelphia was a serious shock. I walked to every local gas station and grocer in my area growing more and more dazed as shelves and coolers came up...beerless. :stare:


So in other words, move to Wisconsin.

Liebfraumilch
Aug 17, 2008

desert pickle posted:

I want to pull music from my ipod back to my pc. I need suggestions for a program to help me with this.

I sync my iPod to my PC using WinAmp. They ask what you want to move to which device, and it all seemed pretty intuitive to me. iTunes is not touching this laptop.

Liebfraumilch
Aug 17, 2008

marshmallard posted:

I really loving need to get out of bed in the mornings. I am useless. My current system is having three alarms on my mobile. At some point about an hour after the last one goes off, I finally wake up.

I'm terrible at mornings and I need to stop being late for work. What can I do? Any good alarm clocks/recommended routines?

Peh. Saw the matter was settled in the thread the moment after I hit Quote and can't think of a question to ask, or find the wireless phone sketch which I think sounds familiar. What a waste of a post, sorry.

Liebfraumilch
Aug 17, 2008

randyest posted:

You may know this but from your post I can't be sure: it's not a post until you click "submit." You can click post or reply or quote all day but nothing gets sent to the forums until you submit it.

I had no idea--I always see apologetic messages from users hitting quote instead of edit, so I thought once you did that you had grabbed the mic and your choice was to mumble something or make a blank post.

I had originally posted to clarify whether marshmallard had trouble hearing the alarm at all, or, like me, trouble not compulsively hitting Snooze every five minutes for an hour. I solve that on days I absolutely must get up by putting my alarm (mobile phone) way across the room or even in the bathroom so I have to walk across the cold tile and going back to bed is actually more trouble than just resigning myself to the day.

Liebfraumilch
Aug 17, 2008
I have the worst kind of question, because the answer might be recognizable only once I see it written, my details are vague, and I have no other reason to ask it than "It's really driving me nuts not remembering this store's name." Here goes:

Type of store:
There was a stand-alone probably-chain store in the late '90s that dealt with, I think, mostly CDs/tapes and possibly movies. The thing that set it apart from the nearby Best Buy was that it also sold sheet music. It didn't get into hardcore electronics like Best Buy; I don't think it got into selling diverse musical instruments like Schmitt Music, and if it sold books it wasn't much like Borders or Barnes & Noble. It was not an office supply place. It's stock was pretty redundant between the aforementioned competitors, and the one I would have visited closed rather shortly after opening.

Location that I knew:
It was, again, a stand-alone big soulless store. One of those flat ugly block buildings that crop up around malls, like Toys R Us and Best Buy, but never in malls. The one I would have visited would have been either in Maplewood, Minnesota or Roseville, Minnesota. It was relatively short-lived in the area, but maybe it belonged to a bigger chain that had success in other parts of the country.

What I've tried:
I already looked on Wikipedia's list of defunct American retailers under "music and video stores" with no luck, and did a lot of Google searches that were useless with just a general place and time and broad merchandise category to plug in. I feel like "Blue" or a man's name was part of the store name. Media Play could be it if a 1990s-aware Minnesota goon convinces me forcefully enough, but I think this store was trying to be fancier than Media Play looked. It was not Sam Goody, and I don't think it was Sam Ash due to the fact they have a piano room you can play in and that would have clung to my young mind like a limpet.


Why I want to know:
I bought piano sheet music from there when I was maybe 13-16 (1995-1998), just thought of it for the first time in ages last night, and cannot believe I can't remember the name. No one else in my family remembers even though we went shopping in one of those two suburbs every other weekend (from Wisconsin). I know it is a long shot that someone will remember this unfortunate chain, be familiar with Maplewood or Roseville from the 1990s, or finish reading my post, but you are my last chance and I've seen this thread do awesome things.

Liebfraumilch fucked around with this message at 23:43 on Jul 1, 2012

Liebfraumilch
Aug 17, 2008
For office snacks, how about rice crackers? They're pretty great, and even if you plow through a whole tray of them at your desk it is just about 300 calories. Another one I loved back when I was snacking all day and skipping official lunches was beef jerky, but I am a salt junkie. Oatmeal has been mentioned and was really instrumental in keeping me alive in college. Same with Luna/Clif bars. And now I want all of these things...

Liebfraumilch
Aug 17, 2008
I am worried this is long enough to banish me to E/N, but hope I can slip by here and get it over with.

Car ownership/tickets question:

In my previous long-term relationship, we bought a car together each paying exactly half. He insured it because he got his father's USAA policy, he did most of the driving during our relationship (alone and as the default driver whenever we went out), and he almost always paid for gas. When we broke up and I was in the process of moving out last summer, I told him to just keep the car and pretty much everything else of mine except books and clothes. I am pretty disinterested in things like reality, so I asked him how can I make sure he owns the car alone and can sell it without me having to be present and he had me sign some officialish car-related thing. I thought that was that and I was glad to wash my hands of it. He gets everything, which he seemed to think was pretty neato, I get an okay conscience as I fly several states away.

Now I am getting his parking tickets in the mail every few weeks since June. The tickets have only my name on them, and I think we're up to at least $450 in fines now. I sent him an e-mail to tell him. He laughs and says he will pay, and I know money is not an obstacle to him (through his family), but he has not paid any of them yet, despite several e-mailed reminders as more tickets come in. I'm getting Notice of Final Determination now for one bundle of them. When I check online, they are still unpaid. Help me understand how livid/nervous I should be:

-What happens to me if he keeps letting this slide?
-How can I get my name off this car for real and not have to see him?
-What other ways can I get hosed if he does something stupid with this car that is apparently still in my name?

Liebfraumilch
Aug 17, 2008

FCKGW posted:

Oh boy, you hosed up big time. It sounds like you never actually had the car registered in his name. You are 100% liable for all those tickets including fines, having the car towed and even a warrant issued in your name for unpaid parking tickets. You need to get him to pay off those tickets asap.

Anything he does in that car is your fault basically as far as the state is concerned.

You also might want to post this in AI or BFC.

Goddamnit. :mad:


Thanks. I am beginning to think he knew that. I'll put the pressure on for him to pay the tickets in the meantime, and then I suppose I have to sort out the registration thing. Is this something a call to the DMV can solve? Please, no one tell me I have to travel and meet up with this horrible jerk for paperwork.

Liebfraumilch
Aug 17, 2008

RaoulDuke12 posted:

Do you have the title to the car? Is it in your name, his name, or both? What about the registration? Is the mail coming to your address made out to you or him?

Advice to follow. Been burned like this before (actually spent 6 hours in jail because of unpaid family member's parking tickets).

I have been operating on the assumption it was in both our names. He has the title I'm pretty sure because he inherited all the official stuff, and he is the one who does all the boring responsible things like tags or whatever. The mail came to my address with only my name on it.

I don't own or drive a car now, and don't actually live at the address where these things are coming (I forwarded all old mail to my mother while I was apartment hunting in my current state and then just kept it that way), so my odds of being arrested over this are hopefully slim, yeah? But I still kind of want to kill him. :ohdear:

Liebfraumilch
Aug 17, 2008

RaoulDuke12 posted:

What state? The tickets generally follow the plates, so the likelihood of you being arrested for unpaid tickets in that car whilst not driving it are very slim. There is the chance that, if you are stopped for another infraction, it will come up on the cop's system, but unless the cop is a massive rear end in a top hat, he likely won't give you too much poo poo for it. You will however, find yourself on the wrong side of a collection agency soon.

If you are receiving mail for the parking violations and your name is the only name on it, then you are, at the very least, the person to whom the car is registered.

In California, we file a notice of transfer and release of liability when we sell or give away our vehicles to another party, since the plates stay with the vehicle. Your state's rules may vary, but if you haven't filled one of these out in your state, do it now. This will prevent you from receiving more tickets.

As unpleasant as it seems, you should meet up with rear end in a top hat and sign the title away, and draw up a bill of sale (you can sell him the car for $1) and get him to sign it.

Even if you do all of this, it only prevents you from being responsible for any future tickets. You're still technically responsible for all of them to this date. Pay them and chalk it up to a lesson learned, or get him to actually pay them. Because it sounds like it's your credit that's gonna get hosed if no one does.

Thank you. I actually did the least honorable thing last night and tattled on him to his parents, and it turns out they are not only happy to pay the tickets but they are desperate to find their son who has disappeared on them suddenly and without contact for maybe a month or more.

So, erm, I'm just going to let that be that for past tickets, and work on the liability part now. Car was bought in Florida, should be registered in Wisconsin, his tickets are in Illinois, and I'm in Pennsylvania. Really hope I can solve this long-distance, but I do feel better I have his parents on the case because they are pretty awesome. Should probably act fast before he dyes his hair red and turns the car into a wanton death machine or something, though. :sun:



Edit: seriously thought I signed the title away last summer. If I had, then maybe there was something more one of us was supposed to do and didn't know (me) or didn't bother (him).

Liebfraumilch fucked around with this message at 23:15 on Jul 28, 2012

Liebfraumilch
Aug 17, 2008
I got the feeling at some point that fabric softening sheets were an American thing and most other places prefer to have fabric softener in their detergent and then air dry, but I could have misunderstood what I read or it could have been just one weirdo claiming it. I do know that introducing my Turkish bloke to dryer sheets here was like relieving him of a huge curse, though, because he could not understand why his clothes were so miserable after he moved to the US when he managed just fine at home. I think he would happily throw a fist full of sheets in each time if I didn't stop him.

Liebfraumilch
Aug 17, 2008

Xiahou Dun posted:

I did a quick, cursory google and didn't find anything conclusive : do you have anything one what these "cannibal tribes" actually are? Like, are these Wari with funerary cannibalism or like Aztec cannibalism-as-war or what? I've always wondered who these supposed "native peoples" are.

I know there's a group of South American indians that eat those defeated in battle (can't remember the name : I keep wanting to say it's the Yanomamo, but I don't think so) and then refer to them as some variety of game-animal to deride their prowess, but I don't remember that term ever being used.

Never actually encountered someone saying "long pig", though.

I don't know, maybe I'm retarded : I only took like 2 years of anthro for shits and giggles.

There are the Fore people, which I remember for being famous for kuru. I don't know if I'm helping, though, because I have been only half-listening to this line of discussion.

Liebfraumilch
Aug 17, 2008

Kevyn posted:

What kind of creature is this?



I thought it was a manatee, but it has a much different head/face than the manatees that come up on GIS

I swear I saw a gif of this, and thought it was a manatee that kind of rams right into the aquarium glass and then floats silently backwards--you're just kind of catching him mid-scrunch here.


Edit: everywhere I see, it is referred to as a manatee. Wish I could find the gif--pretty sure it was posted in the cute-cuddly-nicey SA forum mods opened up a month or two ago.

Liebfraumilch fucked around with this message at 05:26 on Aug 1, 2012

Liebfraumilch
Aug 17, 2008
Yeah. And if you have a spray-can aim accurate enough for you to pick and choose what exact part of the cockroach you should hit for optimal death, I either want to know what brand it is or where you live that gets toddler-sized roaches because I am never ever moving there.


Edit: Might as well ask a question. Is there a term for this "mind game" formula of "Well I was going to do [nice thing] but since you [complained/whined/are acting this way/asked too rudely], I won't now"? You know..."you asked, so you obviously don't deserve it" but they were probably never planning to in the first place and are just taking a way out without taking blame? Because I really hate that.

Liebfraumilch fucked around with this message at 10:49 on Aug 2, 2012

Liebfraumilch
Aug 17, 2008
Maybe I am spoiled on Wikipedia, but I see a lot of mistakes in film subtitles (English-English) and I have the strongest urge to correct them. How are same-language subtitles produced? Screenplay, voice recognition, or some poor jerk sitting in a dark room all day?

Pretending one wanted to correct mistakes, could that be done? I've seen it a lot on Netflix because things tend to run quietly on my laptop or I'm watching with my ESL fiance, and I have to say if someone is truly deaf they are getting so shafted sometimes...

Liebfraumilch
Aug 17, 2008

uptown posted:

I posted a while ago in Critterquest but nobody responded - Can someone ID this spider for me? I found him in Italy.



Is there a way arachnophobiacs can keep spider-centric images from loading on a page?

Okay, fine: I asked this of Pet Island random questions thread to no avail a few weeks ago. Is there a reason my cat wants to lick my oil perfumes from my wrist whenever I wear them? Is she attracted to the fragrance, or the oil? Is she missing something in her diet? I avoid wearing things I understand to be poisonous in some capacity around her: lily of the valley, pennyroyal, tonka bean. But I would love to know why on earth she does it in the first place. I don't wear "real" perfumes--just my late-era hippie mother's affectionate supply of oil fragrances--so I have no idea if she would do this to Chanel No. 5 or whatever.

Help me break into the feline mind, goons.

Liebfraumilch
Aug 17, 2008

cargo cult posted:

name 8-10 random indie pop songs that are relevant right now? Where can I find random pop-ish popular songs at short notice? I can't really gently caress with pandora or spotify right now, I'm thinking literally a list of "listen to this skip that"

Erm, well, you could see what Pitchfork has to say about that and other things, or see what is on t61's frontpage right now? For starters, maybe?

Liebfraumilch
Aug 17, 2008

Camembert posted:

Anybody know of good resources (book or online) regarding "natural" cleaners and such? Like making your own household cleaners, laundry detergent, and any other household tips along those lines.

I haven't tried any of these but had bookmarked it for later investigation. Give it a look?

Liebfraumilch
Aug 17, 2008

Baron Bifford posted:

They say the Black Death helped free the peasant class from feudal oppression by reducing the labor force and thus giving the survivors more leverage to demand higher wages and better treatment. If the Black Death killed half of Britain's population, then the population would have simply been returned to levels a century or two earlier, when feudalism was strong. Obviously, there's more to the story than "it killed half the population". What other factors were at play? Perhaps the plague spared the gentry more, leading to a surplus of employers.

I heard only the same thing you did--but it makes sense for an agrarian world where, no matter what you say about divine right, your power really comes from your land and resources. When there are only so many people left to work your land and tend your livestock, you find they can drive a hard bargain. After all, there was probably another wealthy land-owning dude down the road who has the same problem you did and was willing to take them up on that offer while your cattle wandered and your crops rotted. Put down the turkey leg and hooker and harvest your own crops, or give the jerks what they want? You can't eat gold.

It also makes sense that less hot shot landowners than laborers died, just by the sheer numbers of the latter who made up the base of the power pyramid--not to mention the tight, filthy living conditions of the laboring class. Entire villages vanished. I don't think the European population built back up to pre-plague figures until 1600.

I wonder how much a carton of berries or a head of lettuce would cost if America magicked away all the illegal laborers.


EDIT: I wish I knew the source for this, and would die of embarrassment if it were from SA, but I understand Eastern European landowners cracked down harder on the laborers, and the feudal thing lasted a lot longer there. If I find the source, I will edit to add it and any corrections I should make.

Liebfraumilch fucked around with this message at 09:42 on Aug 12, 2012

Liebfraumilch
Aug 17, 2008

randyest posted:

Pretty much the same as they cost now. Maybe ~4% more. Most people overestimate the cost of labor in food production. I think you also overestimate serf mobility in feudal eras but I'd like to read more about the evidence for the theories you posted.

I'd like to read more about the evidence for my theories, too, but I'm feeling vulnerable after giving away three-quarters of my books before moving. I'm probably pulling from Marks' Origins of the Modern World, and Worlds Together, Worlds Apart which Google says is written by Robert Tignor, as well as from college lectures.

I do know that famine preceded plague, and during the plague peasants had seen exactly how fast nobles and clergy could run in the time of their constituents' greatest need, so afterwards when European powers went back to their favorite hobbies of war and squeezing the soul out of laborers, there was unrest and revolts. The shortage and rising demands of the surviving workforce must have been concerning enough for The Statute of Labourers to happen, though.

Not in any shape to debate current immigration issues, but I am still skeptical that any self-respecting hipster would get out of bed for minimum wage or less to work for Big Lettuce or slog through ten hour shifts in some unholy meat packing plant. Seriously don't want a derail, so if I'm retarded just notify me as an afterthought to a real post.

Liebfraumilch
Aug 17, 2008

Baron Bifford posted:

If this idea is correct - that more peasants than gentry died of the plague - then did the gentry benefit from the plague in any way? They formed a larger fraction of the population after the epidemic. Though they were still the minority, they grew in relation to the peasantry. Doesn't that sort of shift bring some benefits, all other things being equal?

Scaramouche is probably onto something, and because I'm old and rusty and haven't been in a Chicago Manual of Style mood for eight years, I want to add a disclaimer that this is basically the gospel according to Liebfraumilch. I have Robert Marks Origins of the Modern World putting the world peasantry percentage between 80-90. That covers all the world, not just Europe, but 80-90% of the population being more or less the rural people at the bottom of the pyramid producing raw goods and food can take a strong hit from the plague and still vastly outnumber the elite, who weren't untouched by death, themselves.

If you check out the Statute of Labourers I posted upthread, it was basically several dainty kicks to the face of the peasantry for getting a little too uppity. Things were already looking bad for the ruling elite with their bullshit wars and the famines caused both by a Europe at the tippy-top of its biological ability to sustain a population and a ruthless extraction of taxes from the poor whether it would kill them or not, but after the plague, when the bullshit began to resume like all that had been just a hiccup, there were serious revolts. I don't think many were terribly successful, but success doesn't matter so much as the fact there was suddenly widespread collaboration and a will to kick back.

This wasn't my area of focus, so I can't pretend to know if the Caruso-worthy "gently caress Youuuuu" resonated for the following generations of laborers, but just around the time Europe would have been getting back to pre-plague population again and maybe a replay or breaking point, they had found a safety valve.

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Liebfraumilch
Aug 17, 2008

Hoops posted:

What do you mean raw? It's a sauce, it's made of herbs and mayonnaise.

I think he's hesitating at the egg part, which, guessing from RaoulDuke's encyclopedic knowledge of everything, is part of the mayonnaise component?

Maybe its just me, but few things make me more proud than when I reverse engineer something in my kitchen.

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