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I'm not liking the new root scene. SuperSU has been sold to some unknown company. With marshmallow you have to load some unknown kernel before rooting. Anyone else worried about this?
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Oct 5, 2015 18:39
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r0ck0 posted:I'm not liking the new root scene. SuperSU has been sold to some unknown company. With marshmallow you have to load some unknown kernel before rooting. Anyone else worried about this? It doesn't look good, though Chainfire will be working on SuperSU for the next couple years. As it is though you're right, I can't find a kernel I'd trust for my Nexus 5 and I'm currently unrooted for the first time in a long time.
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Oct 5, 2015 18:47
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wolrah posted:If you (or any employer controlling accounts you may have configured on your device) have legitimate reason to believe that someone might want to get the data stored there you might want to think twice.  What about the government?
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Oct 5, 2015 18:53
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LastInLine posted:It doesn't look good, though Chainfire will be working on SuperSU for the next couple years. As it is though you're right, I can't find a kernel I'd trust for my Nexus 5 and I'm currently unrooted for the first time in a long time. For a Nexus device specifically, you can build AOSP from source and flash it fully Google-approved and not worry about that kind of poo poo, surely.
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Oct 5, 2015 19:06
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feedmegin posted:For a Nexus device specifically, you can build AOSP from source and flash it fully Google-approved and not worry about that kind of poo poo, surely.
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Oct 5, 2015 19:20
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What with Android Pay not working on rooted phones, and the inability to take OTAs now, rooting is becoming quite cumbersome. I'll miss being able to use my notification led on my nexus 6, but that's acceptable. Ads are not acceptable; what's the recommended practice for ad-blocking on an unrooted phone? I saw adblock plus which operates an on device proxy and that looks like the best way to go so far. But I do not like the "acceptable ads" direction adblock plus is going. I'm aware of adblock browser and firefox with ublock, but those only handle browser ads. I want to block in-app ads as well.
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Oct 5, 2015 20:27
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5TonsOfFlax posted:What with Android Pay not working on rooted phones, and the inability to take OTAs now, rooting is becoming quite cumbersome. I'll miss being able to use my notification led on my nexus 6, but that's acceptable. Ads are not acceptable; what's the recommended practice for ad-blocking on an unrooted phone?
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Oct 5, 2015 20:38
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Zom Aur posted:What apps are you currently using that have ads? I don't know, I've been blocking them for so long. Also, future apps I may install (flavor of the week games, etc).
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Oct 5, 2015 21:07
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For you N5 users, I found an xda guy who just puts out rootable kernels with none of the other garbage. He doesn't have one up for the release version but the Dev Preview 3 version works for now. Remember that you need the beta SuperSU, the stable 2.46 version won't work.
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Oct 5, 2015 21:47
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LastInLine posted:For you N5 users, I found an xda guy who just puts out rootable kernels with none of the other garbage. He doesn't have one up for the release version but the Dev Preview 3 version works for now. Remember that you need the beta SuperSU, the stable 2.46 version won't work. Link to original thread at xda?
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Oct 5, 2015 21:51
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r0ck0 posted:Link to original thread at xda? Dude mentions it offhand about halfway through the OP.
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Oct 5, 2015 21:56
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N5 running Lollipop, I've somehow run out of space in /system while getting xposed updated. Looking at it from TWRP I've only got a few MB left but I can't see where the space is going. I moved xposed-originals.tgz to /data so I have 2MB free but Android keeps complaining about low space even though I've got 11GB free. Any ideas?
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Oct 5, 2015 23:51
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Ashex posted:N5 running Lollipop, I've somehow run out of space in /system while getting xposed updated. Install this and use it on /system.
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Oct 5, 2015 23:59
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LastInLine posted:Install this and use it on /system. Tried it and nothing really jumps out at me:  I did uninstall xposed then reinstall it due to getting weird errors when trying to install the zip. It took 20-30 minutes to "optimize" apps, since then the message has gone away so I guess I'm okay? Ashex fucked around with this message at 10:06 on Oct 6, 2015 |
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Oct 6, 2015 09:07
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Ashex posted:Tried it and nothing really jumps out at me: Nothing leaps out at me either but if it's working I guess you're okay.
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Oct 6, 2015 10:45
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Here's the Marshmallow root situation right now: You still need a modified kernel (linked to in the xda post in that article) and you still need a beta version of SuperSU but now it's 2.50. Also if you flash that modified kernel on an encrypted device (like the N6 & N9 are by default) it will factory reset the phone.
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Oct 7, 2015 17:10
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LastInLine posted:Here's the Marshmallow root situation right now: How trustworthy are these kernels and superSU app? It was fine before when it was just chainfire but now he sold out to some company what are they going to do? Who checks that the kernel is legit and doesn't have backdoors galore?
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Oct 7, 2015 17:19
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r0ck0 posted:How trustworthy are these kernels and superSU app? It was fine before when it was just chainfire but now he sold out to some company what are they going to do? Who checks that the kernel is legit and doesn't have backdoors galore? You can trust Chainfire which is to say that if you don't you might as well not root at all as he's the only game in town.
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Oct 7, 2015 17:23
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Trusting Chainfire doesn't much matter now that he's sold SuperSU. At this point it seems like it's pretty much straight-cash-stock or wait for CyanogenMod to do its thing. Ugh.
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Oct 7, 2015 18:19
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So I just got off the phone with a level 2 tech in response to a network ticket I filed a week ago, indicating good-great signal strength -92db to -112db and not being able to use mobile data, send/receive MMS and having no phone calls ring in, but receive a voicemail notification afterward. She reviewed all the notes from the network ticket and then has this epiphany "Ohhhhhhhh I see whats going on now.. Your phone is rooted" I should have just said "Yes, it is in fact rooted." but panic denied and got lectured about how running an unauthorized operating system blah blah blah blah. I'm slightly concerned that there is clearly a Verizon service that allows them to check, in fact I'm almost certain now that it was the My Verizon app that requested su access once when I opened it, which of course I denied. Is there anything else in the stock image that would allow them to see if a device was rooted? Because after all that shaming she then rattled off all the apps I've installed since I opened the trouble ticket. I'm not very thrilled with Verizon right now.
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Oct 7, 2015 23:18
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SeaborneClink posted:I'm almost certain now that it was the My Verizon app that requested su access once when I opened it, which of course I denied. Also, wow, that's some pretty nasty data tracking they have going on there.
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Oct 7, 2015 23:40
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Just wait till you call comcast and they say "oh, sorry we cannot help if you have root access on your PC."
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Oct 7, 2015 23:49
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So I have an AT&T LG G3, currently on the 5.01 firmware. From doing some google searching I saw two ways of rooting my phone currently, using towelroot v3, and using a USB debugging method. Towelroot seems easier, but I don't want to brick my phone.
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Oct 8, 2015 14:50
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r0ck0 posted:Just wait till you call comcast and they say "oh, sorry we cannot help if you have root access on your PC." They already basically do this. The number of times I've had to lie to ISP techs and pretend I'm using a Windows machine just to get them to troubleshoot their broken poo poo...
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Oct 8, 2015 14:52
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Fat_Cow posted:So I have an AT&T LG G3, currently on the 5.01 firmware. From doing some google searching I saw two ways of rooting my phone currently, using towelroot v3, and using a USB debugging method. Towelroot seems easier, but I don't want to brick my phone.
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Oct 8, 2015 16:04
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Syrinxx posted:I'm pretty sure stump and towel can't root the Lollipop G3; they were only working on 4.4.x. You might be able to use this tool: http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/general/guide-root-lg-firmwares-kitkat-lollipop-t3056951 Did that everything correctly, phone rebooted and it just didn't root. Don't wanna rollback to do it either. Oh well
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Oct 8, 2015 17:04
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Tunga posted:The great thing about root detection is that you can detect that it exists regardless of what the user presses on this prompt! It is, and the response of "oh you have root" is only made more infuriating by the fact that Verizon retails the Nexus 6.
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Oct 8, 2015 17:09
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I mean, I completely empathize with them from a support standpoint. With a stock OS they know what's normal and what isn't, but with a rooted device god knows what kind of stupid poo poo the user or rom developer modified in the name of "performance". It's not worth their time trying to figure out the billions of ways an idiot wrecked their phone because they wanted to be a "power user". There's just too many variables.
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Oct 8, 2015 18:47
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As for the situation from rooted Marshmallow, there's something going on with filesystem permissions which is annoy me, because it's stopping me from dicking with system files and breaking my phone. I trust ElementalX kernel and its dev, and Chainfire seems to still be the one pushing out betas. He also provides a boot.img that preserves SELinux enforcement, which I've used, since I was making such a fuss about it. It's just as bad as using a hacked boot to set it permissive, I guess. It's also probably why I'm having permission problems. I have no idea what I'm doing. 
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Oct 13, 2015 20:45
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ArcMage posted:As for the situation from rooted Marshmallow, there's something going on with filesystem permissions which is annoy me, because it's stopping me from dicking with system files and breaking my phone. Works fine here but I'm not trying to do dumb things. What are you trying to do?
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Oct 14, 2015 06:29
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I have a Galaxy Tab 3 that I rooted using Odin 3.07. It's running Android 4.2.2. Should I be able to add other ROMS to the device or do I need to update the OS, then re-root, as the ROMS are incompatible with 4.2.2?
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Oct 14, 2015 17:53
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Koppite posted:I have a Galaxy Tab 3 that I rooted using Odin 3.07. It's running Android 4.2.2. I think you are a little confused? You don't "add other roms" so much as replace your existing OS entirely with a new one. Most custom ROMs are pre-rooted, fwiw. It's been a long time since I've been samsung'd and I'm not familiar with the tab3 and its rom scene at all so perhaps I'm missing something in this?
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Oct 14, 2015 18:57
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Maybe he's trying to play pirated console games. Did you consider that?
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Oct 14, 2015 19:14
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Endless Mike posted:Maybe he's trying to play pirated console games. Did you consider that? Maybe he's trying to add external CD-ROMs and DVD-ROM. Did you consider that?
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Oct 14, 2015 23:21
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Man, I've been using my N5 rooted since the day I got it, and rooted my GNex before it when I realized Verizon was going to gently caress with my OTA updates. I took a look on my phone and realized I.. don't really use root for all that much these days. A few Tasker scripts, GravityBox, and blocking ads via my hosts file. I wonder if I would even miss it. I'm still sitting on 4.4.4 since I got lazy waiting for GravityBox to hit 5.0. Maybe I should just go ahead and go back to running unrooted stock, at least once PAD has support for 6.0.
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Oct 15, 2015 02:27
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Meldonox posted:I wonder if I would even miss it. I'm still sitting on 4.4.4 since I got lazy waiting for GravityBox to hit 5.0. Maybe I should just go ahead and go back to running unrooted stock, at least once PAD has support for 6.0. I wondered the same thing when I flashed my n5 to 6.0 and after a day of no light flow, no better battery stats and 'holy crap half my apps are stupid ads' I dealt with re-rooting. Did the n6 today and just rooted it right away.
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Oct 15, 2015 04:28
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Blitter posted:I wondered the same thing when I flashed my n5 to 6.0 and after a day of no light flow, no better battery stats and 'holy crap half my apps are stupid ads' I dealt with re-rooting. Light Flow on the N5 works just fine without root, or at least it should.
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Oct 15, 2015 06:13
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If your apps have ads your apps are bads.
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Oct 15, 2015 15:29
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RZA Encryption posted:If your apps have ads your apps are bads. Agreed, either get ad-free alternatives or pay up, for the the web there's Firefox and uBlock Origin, and Lightflow works without root.
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Oct 15, 2015 15:42
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Grim Up North posted:Agreed, either get ad-free alternatives or pay up, for the the web there's Firefox and uBlock Origin, and Lightflow works without root. Or Ghostery Browser. Or Lightning Browser (uses the Chromium browser embedded in Android). Both block ads nicely.
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