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spaceships posted:redemption was by far a better game as a whole than diablo. don't argue with me, i am correct. I'm inclined to agree but then the main character longeth again for thee Anezka and I want to strangle the dialogue writer a thousandth time. By the way, what exactly does the "safe" command open on the computer in the Metalhead warehouse? It requires a high hack skill (8?) but didn't seem to open anything at all when activated.
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Fuzz posted:The whole idea behind Sabbat packs was based on The Lost Boys pretty directly, too. Near Dark, actually.
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Mar 17, 2011 02:03
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Deleuzionist posted:I'm inclined to agree but then the main character longeth again for thee Anezka and I want to strangle the dialogue writer a thousandth time. I believe the safe opened the safe you were supposed to pilfer for Mitnick. I don't recall straight off, though. I can't remember the Metalhead warehouse very well. Also, I completely agree regarding the dialog about Anezka. Though it was pretty cool seeing her "diaries" at the end of the game in the Cathedral of Flesh. Also finding not-modern currency in the Tzimisce foundry very late in the game, which was actually worth its value in modern currency, as I recall. 1 gold coin gave something like $100 in modern cash. My biggest gripe about Redemption were the actual mazes themselves. Everywhere you went had three-five levels of dungeon crawling each whether it made sense or not. I think the worst bit was the Settite hideout under the theater. Didn't the theater itself have three levels of getting lost, and the Settites have another bunch? If you've beaten Redemption before, go back through the section with Dev/Null and listen to what he says. Wilhelm was right. Dev/Null does try to warn you about Pink being an Assamite a bunch of times. Then he flat-out says he contacted Wilhelm and Ecaterina in his own special way. Pissed-off Christoph, indeed.
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SourceElement posted:I believe the safe opened the safe you were supposed to pilfer for Mitnick. I don't recall straight off, though. I can't remember the Metalhead warehouse very well.
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Mar 17, 2011 13:16
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This game has been around forever and I keep hearing good things and still haven't picked it up... maybe when I get home today I will pull the trigger on it. Do I need any mods to make this playable on my shiny monitor? Or just fire it up and go?
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Mar 17, 2011 14:01
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Z0diac posted:This game has been around forever and I keep hearing good things and still haven't picked it up... maybe when I get home today I will pull the trigger on it. The games buggy as hell get the patches mentioned in the OP, stuff like the Society of Leopold Crash and the unmoveable log in the Temple late game are some of the worst. Otherwise unmodded is a good way to start the game and as everyone has said before dont do a malkavian run first.
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Mar 17, 2011 14:47
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LordLeckie posted:The games buggy as hell get the patches mentioned in the OP, stuff like the Society of Leopold Crash and the unmoveable log in the Temple late game are some of the worst. But if I read the OP correctly, the patches come with the steam version? Or no?
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Mar 17, 2011 14:51
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Tewratomeh posted:If you didn't know, there's a way to disable them. You can either disable them completely or else just enough so that you can slip past. Isn't the only way to disable them in the office next to them, where without Obfuscate at 5 you're a bit screwed out of not killing atleast 1 dude? (I am Nosferatu so trying to argue with them isn't an option).
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Mar 17, 2011 15:02
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So what race do you guys recommend for a third run through the game? My first run through (in 2004. Wow, quite awhile ago) I played as a Tremere, and my second run was a Malkavian. I'm trying to figure out what an interesting third race would be, but I'm not so sure. I think I'll be playing with the Camarilla mod.
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Mar 17, 2011 15:17
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Z0diac posted:But if I read the OP correctly, the patches come with the steam version? Or no? The official patches, yes. When you install the Unofficial patches (that fix far too many issues to count), you can choose an option to not add any 'plus' features, and do only bugfixes. Do that for a pure game, although I haven't tried it with all the new mods out. Oh dear, here we go again. 
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CerebralDonut posted:So what race do you guys recommend for a third run through the game? My first run through (in 2004. Wow, quite awhile ago) I played as a Tremere, and my second run was a Malkavian. I'm trying to figure out what an interesting third race would be, but I'm not so sure. I think I'll be playing with the Camarilla mod. I always thought Toreador was pretty fun, Bullet time  plus I love the constant snide back and forth between the Toreador PC and any/all of the Nosferatu NPC's
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Mar 17, 2011 15:40
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CerebralDonut posted:So what race do you guys recommend for a third run through the game? My first run through (in 2004. Wow, quite awhile ago) I played as a Tremere, and my second run was a Malkavian. I'm trying to figure out what an interesting third race would be, but I'm not so sure. I think I'll be playing with the Camarilla mod. Nosferatu play quite differently if that is what you're after.
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Mar 17, 2011 15:58
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CerebralDonut posted:So what race do you guys recommend for a third run through the game? My first run through (in 2004. Wow, quite awhile ago) I played as a Tremere, and my second run was a Malkavian. I'm trying to figure out what an interesting third race would be, but I'm not so sure. I think I'll be playing with the Camarilla mod. Nosferatu are awesome. It's not as restrictive as it sounds, I had no issues running down the middle of road as long as I didn't get to close to people. I played him pretty much as a ninja, running around with a katana and obfuscate. Some things play out a bit differently, like you can't bribe your way onto the ship.
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Mar 17, 2011 16:11
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CerebralDonut posted:So what race do you guys recommend for a third run through the game? My first run through (in 2004. Wow, quite awhile ago) I played as a Tremere, and my second run was a Malkavian. I'm trying to figure out what an interesting third race would be, but I'm not so sure. I think I'll be playing with the Camarilla mod. Brujah or Toreador, because you haven't actually played this game until you play it with Celerity.
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Mar 17, 2011 17:18
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Is the patching process for the Unofficial one different in any way if I have the Steam version of the game?
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Mar 17, 2011 17:31
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Z0diac posted:Is the patching process for the Unofficial one different in any way if I have the Steam version of the game? Nope. Just make sure it's installing to the right directory.
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Mar 17, 2011 17:45
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Fuzz posted:Nope. Just make sure it's installing to the right directory. Makes sense... what about the resolution fixer? That won't let me choose...
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Mar 17, 2011 17:48
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toreador is the best clan. Well, in the lore. But i have a soft spot for snobbish aristocratic dudes who pretend its the 19th century all day every day.
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Mar 17, 2011 17:51
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Just installed this game, played it for three hours straight! I just finished the dual personalities between Jeanette and her sister. Totally wasn't expecting that! This game is great. I love all of the characters, especially the stuttering thin-blood at the beach. For some reason, his character makes the game seem so real.
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Mar 17, 2011 18:55
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ThePopeOfFun posted:Just installed this game, played it for three hours straight! I just finished the dual personalities between Jeanette and her sister. Totally wasn't expecting that! This game is great. I love all of the characters, especially the stuttering thin-blood at the beach. For some reason, his character makes the game seem so real. Haha, keep playing. He turns up again in the story.
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Mar 17, 2011 18:57
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Fuzz posted:Haha, keep playing. He turns up again in the story. Not if you are cheating and drop Mass Suicide on those poor bastards, just to be mean.
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Mar 17, 2011 19:14
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I wish Chinatown was a bit more fleshed out. Everyone in there totally rules but they clearly didn't have enough time to give it the love they gave Downtown or Santa Monica.
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From what I read, near the end of development, they applied what they had learned working on the hubs and reworked Santa Monica.
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It's also a shame that this was technically the first game on HL2 engine (it WAS first but they were contract-bound not to release it before HL2) and I believe I've read in some video game magazine back when they started working on it that the version of the engine wasn't final, thus it doesn't feature the extremely well done optimization for which the engine is known.
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I finally bought Bloodlines today. I have a little bit of disposable income and figured I should buy this game. Should I start out with the vanilla game, or mod it and then play through it?
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Mar 18, 2011 19:43
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Boo This Man posted:I finally bought Bloodlines today. I have a little bit of disposable income and figured I should buy this game. Should I start out with the vanilla game, or mod it and then play through it? Start out with Wesp's patch, but don't install the plus options.
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DemonNick posted:Start out with Wesp's patch, but don't install the plus options. I disagree. The plus options restore the content which was meant to be in the game but which the developers didn't have the time to finish. As far as I'm concerned the restored content is part of the intended game.
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Pope Guilty posted:I disagree. The plus options restore the content which was meant to be in the game but which the developers didn't have the time to finish. As far as I'm concerned the restored content is part of the intended game. Yeah, most of the stuff in the Plus version is much-needed balance tweaks and restoring things that were obviously meant for use but were unfinished for one reason or another at launch. You'd honestly never know it wasn't there at launch, if you just started playing with fanpatch+ from the start, because it all fits in.
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Z0diac posted:Makes sense... what about the resolution fixer?
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Verloc posted:The patch install should make a directory called 'Tools' in your Vampire root folder and drop the ResPatch executable in there. Fire that up and point it at your root VTMB foolder ('steamapps/common/vampire the masquerade - bloodlines' is default for steam installs I think) and it'll patch in widescreen for you. Yea it took me a while but I figured it out... go me! Now I am trying to get better at the controls and trying to figure out how the hell to apply the 2 XP I've earned... I am literally baffled.
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Z0diac posted:Yea it took me a while but I figured it out... go me! I don't think there's anything that costs 2XP or less, but once you have enough XP to spend, mouseover the dot you want to buy in your character sheet and click it to spend. So if you have 3XP and you want to buy your second dot in Brawl, for example, you mouseover the second dot of Brawl and click it to buy it. You can take back your purchases until you close the Character screen, which locks your choices in.
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My only problem with the CQM is it makes the Tremere Males starting armor Black. He already looks bad enough, he doesn't need a black shirt, thank you. Thankfully you can fix this by installing the "Tremere Male Red" pack from the NPC files that came along with it. So, wondering just how much side dialogue there is for the Toredor, Brujah, Ventrue, and Gangrel. Never played any of those clans, because I've always loved the fact tons of people react to you differently as a Malk/Nos/Tremere. Wondering if they actually have a decent amount of Ventrue only lines as well. Also, how effective is firearms near the end of the game? I tried them before, but was rather underwhelmed by the 38/Utica in the early game, and didn't want to have to keep pumping points in to it just to make the Jaeger useful in the lategame. Does Arsenal kind of fix this?
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Rookersh posted:Also, how effective is firearms near the end of the game? I tried them before, but was rather underwhelmed by the 38/Utica in the early game, and didn't want to have to keep pumping points in to it just to make the Jaeger useful in the lategame. Does Arsenal kind of fix this? After you get the Colt Anaconda, Deagle or Steyr, firearms become amazing. My Malkavian with maxed out ranged and Auspex started 3-shotting pretty much everything with the late game pistols. Made the second stage of the Sheriff fight a breeze as I could just shoot him out of the sky with automatic fire. Hell, high ranged skill makes every fight trivial after you get the endgame guns.
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Rookersh posted:So, wondering just how much side dialogue there is for the Toredor, Brujah, Ventrue, and Gangrel. Never played any of those clans, because I've always loved the fact tons of people react to you differently as a Malk/Nos/Tremere. Wondering if they actually have a decent amount of Ventrue only lines as well. Ventrue is kind of neat, but simultaneously underwhelming, because a lot of people say LESS to you since they don't want to bitch about the boss in front of you.
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Chainsawdomy posted:Ventrue is kind of neat, but simultaneously underwhelming, because a lot of people say LESS to you since they don't want to bitch about the boss in front of you. That's not a Ventrue thing, that's a Camarilla thing. It just so happens that people taht play Ventrue tend to play very Cammy for their Ventrue playthrough. If you go Ventrue Anarch, you get all the dialogue.
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Deleuzionist posted:I'm inclined to agree but then the main character longeth again for thee Anezka and I want to strangle the dialogue writer a thousandth time. There's supposed to be a locked safe next to the computer that contains an item you need for Gary's fetch quests. However, it looks like it was removed in one of the mods in the Clan Quest pack. I just finished the Metalhead warehouse, and it wasn't there. As far as I can tell the safe command on the computer does nothing now. pee air fucked around with this message at 00:51 on Mar 19, 2011 |
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Fuzz posted:Brujah or Toreador, because you haven't actually played this game until you play it with Celerity. Listen to this man, he is wise. My first playthrough was Tremere and melee Potence/Celerity Brujah beats the poo poo out of Tremere. Its fun to stunlock people as Tremere with Blood Purge but it gets very samey around Chinatown. Nothing, but NOTHING makes you feel like a stone-cold predator than sneaking behind some anonymous redshirt, stealth killing him, hitting Celerity and Potence, circle strafing around his three buddies and taking all three out with a hit each from your melee combo.
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lewse jewse posted:Well, my dreams of playing this game again have hit a road block. After getting the 15 MB memory bug, I downloaded the patcher linked earlier and successfully applied the patch... only to have it give the exact same error. Just in case, I got the executable patch and did that too, but no dice. What gives? Had the 15mb bug and the low res textures bug. The fixes worked for me, but I used the hex editor method instead of patching(aside from the exe patch). Maybe try the hex editor instead?
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Im really enjoying the vanilla game. But, i try to run the widescreen patch and it won't execute in Windows 7 32bit. I've ran the program as Administrator and no success. I really want to play the game with widescreen resolution.
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You have to drop the patcher file into the BIN directory in wherever you have the game installed.
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