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mewse posted:Boxing This is good. Punching people is good(inside a gym). Thank you for saving me time as I prob would have written 1000 million words.
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Paul Pot posted:myth, i've never seen a boxer pull off as many superman punches as gsp  Notable good mma boxer Georges St. Pierre. Most people don't know poo poo about boxing.
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May 5, 2011 12:54
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Paul Pot posted:it's interesting that you didn't debate the effectiveness of superman punches in boxing matches I don't think superman punches are effective in boxing because a boxer will know you're not going to kick them so there's no fake out. I sparred with an MMA guy MMA rules to takedowns and he tried a superman punch and I just slipped it because I was still in boxing mode. It definitely works in MMA though.
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May 5, 2011 18:51
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fawker posted:I feel like it was a combination of having no fear of Jake's stand up and trying to *hopefully* KO him in his native land, in front of the biggest crowd he'll ever fight in front of. I think it was just Georges being a dumb. Seriously they guy pays Freddie Roach a lot of money to train him and I'm pretty sure Freddie would have spit in his face if he came back to his corner after throwing those rights. Ricardo Mayorga throws better punches than that. MAYORGA!!!
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May 5, 2011 19:11
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Have a friendly spar and punch him in the face?
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May 5, 2011 20:19
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Just go. Why would you have to get in shape to get in shape? It makes no sense. You go do Krav and you're body will develop what you need to excel at it. There no other way around it. Sure you may suck some wind or puke but there's no point in delaying you're training.
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May 5, 2011 20:42
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Dick Trauma posted:I'm in L.A. I'm looking at the Krav Maga place on Olympic near the 405. I feel like I'm at the point where I could really benefit from it. I didn't see any boxing places in the area, which I'm also interested in. I'm not sure how the West Coast works but http://www.wildcardbc.com/ Edit. Looking at the website and drat Wild Card is such a real loving gym. I love Freddie Roach. He could have a gym where he charges rich scrubs 200 a month but no he keeps it at a modest 50 a month so that the less fortunate can come in and train too. That's how you discover diamonds in the rough! KidDynamite fucked around with this message at 21:58 on May 5, 2011 |
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May 5, 2011 21:54
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HATE MONDAYS posted:Was it even possible in your mind he would come back?
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May 11, 2011 12:59
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Wrestling is pretty cardio intensive.
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May 14, 2011 22:34
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Epee fencing give you excellent footwork, distance, and timing for any type of striking.
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May 17, 2011 02:17
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Adolfo Castro posted:So the good doctor just banned me from Muay Thai, BJJ and Wrestling forever. Wow. That really sucks. I hope by some miracle of the fighting gods your neck gets better.
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May 25, 2011 12:47
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Bohemian Nights posted:I've definitely had several situations where I've been close to going out, where I manage to escape from a choke just as the walls start closing in. Even when you get out, if it was on tight enough you might need a second or two to fully recover as the blood blows back to your brain. It's pretty rad. When I was doing BJJ there was a Judo guy that came in and apparently had a bad reputation. All he had was an Ezekial choke with an insane grip. He got my white belt rear end in it but I felt like I could work out of it. I blacked out and woke up to him tapping to an armbar. Instructor said I just popped my left leg over his face and drove my hips like a bat out of hell. I felt pretty rad.
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May 28, 2011 03:40
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Ligur posted:Hmm, I was clocked by one of the old boxers who come to our gym with a right hook - which I "blocked" by a glove glued to the left side of my head - so hard the hit left me standing in bright fields of swimming white light and completely deaf. It took me a few seconds to find out where I was. Sure, I was still standing when I woke up and everything, but for a blink had no idea what was going on and couldn't hear a thing. I've never had a hit leave me deaf before but I've def had the polaroid vision as I like to call it. The worst is when you get hit with a nice upper and your vision slows down and then the frames of vision as your head was lifted up come into frame with black around them because your brain is working to catch up.
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May 28, 2011 19:03
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Adolfo Castro posted:Injury report Best of luck to you dude and hopefully you can recover and continue to train. Did the Doc say you could continue striking? This is scary as gently caress cause my shoulder is currently out of wack and not gotten any better with physical therapy and I've had the finger numbness too. KidDynamite fucked around with this message at 13:08 on May 31, 2011 |
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May 31, 2011 13:03
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It camouflages your skill to other rednecks. Everyone else just knows you suck.
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May 31, 2011 21:51
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ManicParroT posted:Pfft, all you fools with your camo. Clearly, leopard print is where it's at. Are you from Jersey?
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Jun 1, 2011 12:45
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Adolfo Castro posted:Those are actually really good, I just use it as an all purpose compression band, be it elbow, ankle, shin or knee. I know of people that use weighted gloves and what not but that usually kept to like ~2 pounds. I'm guessing this guys meant like a 10 pound dumbbell which would lead to shoulder injuries like whoa. Hitting the bag with any kind of force with an unprotected fist is just asking for bloody broken knuckles. You're right about practicing knife hands though.
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Jun 3, 2011 11:49
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killendino_001 posted:MA school for my 6 year old If you want your kid to learn anything put him in boxing or wrestling. These are sports that are pretty simple though there are a lot of nuances to them. This will have the kid learn and give him/her a solid base for more complex stuff when he/she gets to puberty. Also he/she won't have a stupid black belt that's worth poo poo at age 14. Edit: A good BJJ school will be good too.
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Jun 14, 2011 13:06
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Lead right hand if you're quick enough. Jab>slip>hook if you can slip well. Jab to the body. Double up your jab. You should be doing all these already except for the lead right hand. vary up your attack if you throw the same combination over and over of course he's going to negate your jab.
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Jun 18, 2011 23:11
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Dirp posted:I've tried alot of this and it still doesn't work. I'm not throwing the same combos over and over but I know I tend to lead with my left alot. I think I just need to get better, especially my hand speed. If jab slip hook isn't working your hand speed has to be really lacking. Work on throwing fast combinations with less power behind them when you work the heavybag and padwork. Also bring your jab back as fast as possible. It's hard for me to imagine why jab slip hook isn't working for you.
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Jun 18, 2011 23:44
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Dirp posted:What doesn't work is I still get hit when I try to slip and I think it's just because I'm really loving terrible at slipping punches. I don't know if it's because it's muay thai or what but I feel like we never work on slipping as much as we should. Occasionally we have boxers come in and make me feel like a child because they can just slip and roll everything I throw. Oh it's Muay Thai ignore all my advice. I don't know poo poo from a Muay Thai stance.
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Jun 19, 2011 03:02
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Paul Pot posted:kid, you've turned into a winning fiend, right? i've got a few questions, but no pms...you cool with giving me gear advice here or in the w&w thread? Here's fine. Kimbo is also knowledgeable on their headgears too.
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Jun 20, 2011 02:26
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Paul Pot posted:i believe top ten makes the best headgear for kickboxing/mt, so i'm not in the market for that. If you want to use competition size gloves in sparring Winning is not your brand as they run larger than any other brand. They will definitely protect your hands as I used to have lots of problems with my hands before I got my Winnings. It's a novel idea to use smaller gloves for sparring to get you used to the lesser defense but it's better to work on your head movement and footwork to get you away from your opponents strikes. Also the top ten headgear if kimbo linked the right one looks like TKD headgear. Which means to me good for getting kicked in the head but not punched in the face. KidDynamite fucked around with this message at 11:00 on Jun 20, 2011 |
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Jun 20, 2011 10:54
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Paul Pot posted:trust me guys, top ten uses some special weird material that's extremely shock absorbent even if it looks cheap&homo. really sleek footprint, doesn't move, great absorption, covers all areas. i think they've been used in the last 3 boxing olympics because they're so protective. i got the avantgarde model and it's leaps better than everlast/thai stuff. winnings don't protect the entire head, so that wouldn't be an option for me. i'm sure they're the best headgear for pure boxing, tho. I prefer lace ups. I don't think there's any way to keep them tied and slip them on and off though. I used Reyes with velcro for a while and yes the ease of slipping them on and being able to put them on yourself is useful but the wrist support is lacking. Besides that's what your coach is there for to get you prepped for sparring and yell at you. Not sure about what advice to give you if you want to block more as it would probably be bad for Muay Thai.
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I'm with kimbo the inside crescent kick come from the inside and goes out. What Buried showed is an outside crescent kick.  So many years wasted in TKD and Kung Fu because my parents never knew where to find a boxing gym.
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Jun 21, 2011 12:16
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Xguard86 posted:me too, except for different reasons. My dad wanted me to stay out of boxing because he didn't want me taking blows to the head, and I couldn't wrestle because my uncle wrestled and he knew how bad the weight cutting could be. Bjj was still an underground garage thing but I wish I had been in Judo or Kykokushin karate. Then again at least I went to a decent TKD school that fudged a lot of the contact rules and ended up being more like a Japanese jujitsu/hapkido dojo than anything else. I could have been a ninja. The one thing that really sticks in my head and pisses me off to this day is a story from my TKD class. I was always respectful and wanted to learn in TKD I thought it was cool at the time. I would always punch the bag though. I would throw kicks at it too but I spent most of my time punching it. It was at a really good TKD school since the sensei was the coach for the olympic team or some poo poo. One day the sensei's fat son comes out and said "Hey Mike Tyson this is Tae Kwon Do we don't throw punches." It really pissed me off since even at that young age I wanted to know like every part of fighting. I knew there was a range and distance for kicking and then punching and then grappling and it just gave me a bad taste that he was so narrow minded. Edit: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dong_Keun_Park I guess he was pretty famous. He never really taught though. KidDynamite fucked around with this message at 17:21 on Jun 21, 2011 |
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Jun 21, 2011 17:17
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Fontoyn posted:Anyone know why kickboxers/boxers can take so many more heavy shots than your standard MMA fighter? Why are there so many more zombie fights in non-mma combat sports? Because MMA striking is bad. Also boxers that stay in the pocket tend to have good head movement or counter big shots with their own. I don't know what you mean by zombie fights as that would to me in my head be a crap mma match.
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Jun 30, 2011 03:33
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That seems really stupid. I can just switch grips and americana you. Very easily too. Or poo poo just put you into an arm triangle position to get the mount. I don't see how this works in an advantageous way for you.
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Jun 30, 2011 15:09
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Oh well I say stuff like that comes when you've got two equally skilled guys. There's just times you have to take one to give two(optimistically). Besides you don't want to be backing up the whole fight or resetting the range after every single exchange. Moving around the ring like Floyd Mayweather isn't something many people can do. Or if they can they can't keep it up for 12 rounds sometimes your legs go and there's nothing you can do but stand and fire back. Also if you have a good defense like say Winky Wright you can just tire out your opponent by letting him punch himself out. No need to move with a strategy like that. In mma you don't see that because there's always the threat of the takedown.
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Jun 30, 2011 15:31
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Ligur posted:I still think the correct one is "I was winning the fight - up to the moment I died" Was this from the story where the guy was getting peppered with ineffective punches(stabbed to death(literally))? That was depressing don't make it the thread titile.
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Jul 2, 2011 01:47
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I thought Mas Oyama actually fought dudes and what not? Or is that another TMA lie?
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Jul 8, 2011 17:08
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Yeah I way rather give up my car and tell them to go hog wild and crash it at the end of the night or chop shop it really good. I have good insurance I'll take a new car over getting shot.
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Jul 16, 2011 02:37
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PLease shut the gently caress up melon cat.
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Jul 16, 2011 02:59
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Omglosser posted:I think it's just cuz it's such an old and stupid argument. Ugh that triple jab he throws is so loving disgusting. Jesus.
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zalmoxes posted:Since we're on the topic of agility and speed, what is there you can do to improve that? I've been doing more jumprope and dribbling a soccer ball lately and I think it's helped a little, but I'm a lot slower than I would like to be. Is it mostly a matter of physical training, or is there a mental component to it. A speed jumprope and an agility ladder. Plus sprints in a pool if you can. Those help immensely with speed. For punching speed there's not really much you can do to increase it by much. That's more a genetic thing. As you learn better technique your punches will flow together faster but there will only be so much speed you can put behind a full power punch that is limited by your body. KidDynamite fucked around with this message at 17:36 on Jul 16, 2011 |
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Lt. Shiny-sides posted:I do agree that everyone has a genetic limit. Yes tell me about all the secret techniques I haven't learned in the 7 years I've been boxing. All boxing coaches must be holding back on their students.  Your punch speed is something that is hardwired just like how hard you punch(ko power) and how much punishment you can take. Unless you mean you can train yourself to throw really fast pitter patter nothing punches then by all means.
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Jul 18, 2011 14:56
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Lt. Shiny-sides posted:Are you making the argument that you punch just as hard and just as fast as you did seven years ago when you started? My speed has increased as I've learned correct technique but not from any gains in handspeed. I was already athletic when I started boxing so there was not change in my body and even as I got fat over the years and got back in shape that's the one thing that's been constant. That KO power study is really cool and all but there's a reason not everyone can tap you like Ernie Shavers or Big George and KO you. Maybe the boxing mentality is this works why gently caress with it? And work with what you got(not Paul Williams let's not fix glaring holes in my game style though).
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Jul 19, 2011 05:36
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Guess it really depends on your mouth. The shock doctor I had always cut my mouth up. With the custom molded one I can have a conversation and you probably wouldn't notice I had my mouth-guard in.
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I think footspeed is just much more quantifiable than hand speed. The guy arguing with me asked how I knew my hand speed had stayed the same and the answer to that is my jab when sparring. It's always been my best offensive tool and the one person I've been sparring with since I started will always get caught with it after I roll under one of his right hands. He's tried for everything to get his hand back in time and nothing's ever worked. He's stayed in shape and I haven't(I balloned up to 290 from 200 down at 230 now). So my hand speed had to have stayed the same during that whole period. The whole hand speed thing doesn't really matter in boxing anyway as if you throw good punches in combinations you will connect eventually. Footwork and stamina are way more important. Head movement too. We do plyo and tire flips at my gym on certain days. But this is a broke rear end PAL gym we don't have money for state of the art equipment.
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Yuns posted:As a side note, KidDynamite's victory at the first and only ever goon meet fight competition a few years ago was hilarious. It was basically a bunch of untrained goons getting laid out by an amateur boxer. I don't even know why they let you compete in it. I had been boxing for 2 months at this point. Don't make me out to be some ringer.
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