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Alteisen posted:Did you enter the final stage before you did the 5th kalpa? If you did then you locked yourself out. Well poo poo. Looks like it's just regular demon ending for me, then.
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MarsDragon posted:Goddammit Soejima. Atleast in my opinion I think Tatsuya's looking pretty rad. It has Kaneko's eyes and lips but drawn with Soejima's style and coloring. It's also a clear improvement compared to Soejima's innocent sin art. Also check out http://p-atlus.jp/p2x/ for a nice rendition of the map theme.
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MarsDragon posted:Huh, the dungeon screenshot looks like there's a change to the mapping interface of just the fading out feet instead of highlighting. I wonder how that will work for the mapping quest, unless they bring back the highlighting on the minimap if you have a map quest open. You know, in the original it was still Soejima illustrating Kaneko's designs. Nothing has changed.
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Just started my NG+ in DS2 and I decided to answer "Let me die" when Tico asked if I wanted to live. He's all like "you sure?" And I'm like "yup. Positive." Tico basically responds "but thou must!" and I go "nope." So he lets me die and I get a mission failure. drat you Atlus
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Hell, I completely missed Devil Survivor 2's release (forgot it was coming out entirely!) and now apparently the nearest local store that has a copy is... in Arizona?! Time to go mail-order, I suppose.
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The Hater posted:Just started my NG+ in DS2 and I decided to answer "Let me die" when Tico asked if I wanted to live. He's all like "you sure?" And I'm like "yup. Positive." Tico basically responds "but thou must!" and I go "nope."
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EDIT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIPh4IxwV6k&hd=1 P4 dude talks about the game in Japanese. Plays it a bit so we can see what it looks like on an actual Vita. Policenaut fucked around with this message at 13:54 on Mar 9, 2012 |
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Policenaut posted:EDIT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIPh4IxwV6k&hd=1 At around 1:34 in you can see Marie sitting with Igor and Margaret in the velvet limo so I guess that confirms that she's part of their troupe.
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Dastardly posted:At around 1:34 in you can see Marie sitting with Igor and Margaret in the velvet limo so I guess that confirms that she's part of their troupe. Oh wow. I wonder what her role will be in the Velvet Room? She doesn't seem to be replacing Margret, so maybe there's some new zany option in the Velvet Room that involves her?
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Dogbutt posted:Oh wow. I wonder what her role will be in the Velvet Room? She doesn't seem to be replacing Margret, so maybe there's some new zany option in the Velvet Room that involves her? It better have something to do with controlling which abilities carry over to newly fused personas, dammit. The one thing I truly hate about this series is having to keep pressing the same two buttons until I see a skill set to a persona I actually like.
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Mar 9, 2012 19:56
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TheLoser posted:It better have something to do with controlling which abilities carry over to newly fused personas, dammit. The one thing I truly hate about this series is having to keep pressing the same two buttons until I see a skill set to a persona I actually like. In Devil Survivor they did that. So maybe they'll implement it in other SMT games hopefully. Actually, did Strange Journey come before or after Devil Survivor? I know you had to do the button thing in that.
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Get her social link to rank 10 to be able to choose which skills are carried over. Social link becomes available at the end of December. 
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Dogbutt posted:In Devil Survivor they did that. So maybe they'll implement it in other SMT games hopefully. Actually, did Strange Journey come before or after Devil Survivor? I know you had to do the button thing in that. To be fair, Devil Survivor's demons have a more restricted ability set. They get three in active skills, three passive skills and one, fixed racial skill. Most of the time, the demons will have some number of preset active and passive skills, too, so you don't get to pass on too many skills. Whereas in the other games, demons have like 8 skill slots or something and can inherit a lot more skills.
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Nahxela posted:It came after Devil Survivor. Come and play the fusion game. I guess that's true. I honestly don't mind spending a half-hour pressing 2 buttons over and over again to get the perfect demon. But maybe that's just me.
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Policenaut posted:More P2: Eternal Punishment PSP screenshots Hmm I just noticed Tatsuzou Sudou looks a bit like Andrew Breitbart COINCIDENCE???
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The Hater posted:Just started my NG+ in DS2 and I decided to answer "Let me die" when Tico asked if I wanted to live. He's all like "you sure?" And I'm like "yup. Positive." Tico basically responds "but thou must!" and I go "nope." You can do this on your first runthrough. You don't get NG+ for doing it though, unlike in Soul Nomad. Beating Soul Nomad in the first ten minutes is the best.
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Mar 9, 2012 21:34
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gently caress the last boss on the path I was on for DS2. What a dick. I got sick of the stupid gimmick so just hopped right over and crushed it with Holy Dance, Drain, and his own stupid physical attack. How was that dipshit the administrator of anything SMT if he can't even understand the concept of Phys Repel and why using a super powerful Physical attack on someone with the skill is really stupid? And with the Amazing Revolving Demon Door the rear end in a top hat was abusing, I went from Level 66 to 70. Oh well, on to NG+. McDragon fucked around with this message at 22:06 on Mar 9, 2012 |
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P4 spoilers, the anime reached Namatame's dungeon, and the show will follow the same "well that settles it!" plot point for revealing Adachi. My issue is, why did Naoto made such a huge deal about what Adachi said? It made perfect sense for him to say that, even if he werent the murder. It bugged me then and it will bug me eventually when the anime reaches that far.
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As far as I remember, Adachi was acting completely clueless when the group was talking about personas and rescuing people. They never even mentioned specifically who was saved during their adventures. The only people who actively suspected that the kidnapping victims had something to do with the murders were Dojima and Naoto. That's why it was so weird for him to say "Oh, I guess that settles it." when Naoto reads the list of victims from the journals. He still shouldn't have much of a idea of what's happening if he's not the killer.
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TheLoser posted:As far as I remember, Adachi was acting completely clueless when the group was talking about personas and rescuing people. They never even mentioned specifically who was saved during their adventures. The only people who actively suspected that the kidnapping victims had something to do with the murders were Dojima and Naoto. That's why it was so weird for him to say "Oh, I guess that settles it." when Naoto reads the list of victims from the journals. He still shouldn't have much of a idea of what's happening if he wasn't the killer. That coupled with the fact that any time Dojima was hinted at having doubts about the case or connecting the kidnappings with the murders Adachi would sarcastically quip "is this your Detective's intuition or something?" and would kinda brush it off, but the second it came up with the crew he's all "welp pack it up boys" vv I have no idea how you're having that many problems with DS2. I beat the game with minimal grinding and the only fights I REALLY had trouble on were those on the last day sans the final boss, who I beat on the first try without any problems (AND my MC was physical/agility based!) The Hater fucked around with this message at 03:39 on Mar 10, 2012 |
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"I am Ronaldo Kukiri and I will show your sins" *one shots my overleveled MC like it was nothing* And that is how I found out that DS carts bounce extremely well when thrown to the floor. gently caress this game, this poo poo keeps happening again and again regardless of my skill set or preparation, I'd rather face a thousand Beldrs than this crap.
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Alteisen posted:"I am Ronaldo Kukiri and I will show your sins"
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I mean, so far the only time I had trouble was with fights specifically intended to fake you out, and prior to that I played riskier than I should have. I am talking about the Day 4 Septentrione, of course.
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Alteisen posted:"I am Ronaldo Kukiri and I will show your sins" Yeah, Ronaldo is a pretty taxing boss. The game's difficulty is pretty weird, to be honest. The day 4 boss is a real rear end in a top hat, but the day 5 and 6 bosses are chumps and it's not until day 7 that the game resumes throwing hard fights at you. Fortunately, by day 7 you've unlocked Evil Flow which makes pretty much everything a joke.
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Alteisen posted:"I am Ronaldo Kukiri and I will show your sins" Kukiri isn't even the hard part of that fight honestly. The way I beat him was put a Kishin in my main character's team, ignored everything else, and ran my MC up to him ASAP then killed him in two rounds. It is a lot less about leveling and just picking skills/demon racials 100% suited to the task at hand Heavy neutrino posted:. . . and it's not until day 7 that the game resumes throwing hard fights at you. When I saw the Day 7 Boss's gimmick I just suspended my save and said "gently caress it I'm going to bed." When I came back to the game, and actually attempted that portion of the fight I killed him no issue. A lot of the fights in the game are a lot tougher than they look. I honestly feel the Kukiri fight and the immediate follow up to that and the last boss are the two "bullshit" fights in the game MotU fucked around with this message at 04:16 on Mar 10, 2012 |
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Alteisen posted:"I am Ronaldo Kukiri and I will show your sins" Just get an Orcus, beat the poo poo out of the Bawhatever, and you're good. Trust me, there's a much worse battle coming up...
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I had a really hard time on the second fight of day 7 in Saiduq's path because I hadn't leveled Hinako's Fate so I was stuck with two characters against a group of 10 that includes a boss and a sub-boss. Most of the fights in that chapter can be tough because it's full of human enemies who sometimes come with good setups (Rage Soul + phys amp + attack all + devil flash, holy poo poo) which you have to be prepared for.
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As usual in SMT, there's not really a middle ground between "instantly annihilated" and "easy victory". That mission kicked my rear end until I abused the Jack Frosts in the free fights to get a Lenan Sidhe for all 4 teams. With that and everyone else at 24/25 both parts of the fight became ridiculously easy. I even took my time wiping out the followers first. Basically, if you're curbstomped despite heavy preparation then you need to prepare more. Despite how soul-crushing it seems it's worth it when the team you've invested so much in just destroys everything. Of course, sometimes it comes down to an unlucky freeze/shock but Ronaldo is generally free of those. At the end of Thursday now. Free fight enemies are disappointingly low-level but I find things work out if you always have the MC finish off bosses/big boys. Yinlock fucked around with this message at 04:34 on Mar 10, 2012 |
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The Hater posted:Just started my NG+ in DS2 and I decided to answer "Let me die" when Tico asked if I wanted to live. He's all like "you sure?" And I'm like "yup. Positive." Tico basically responds "but thou must!" and I go "nope." Haha, yeah, that was the first thing I did when I originally booted the game up. I wanted to see if it would let it happen, and I was pleasantly surprised.
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Alright, day 8 in DS2 Polaris via Daichi's path is beating my rear end Any tips?
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I was pissed when I found out I had apparently locked myself out of the True Demon ending in SMT:N. Then I remembered that I keep multiple save files for a reason. So I loaded up a save from back in the Diet Building. I'm not actually upset about having to do 10+ hours of gameplay over again. It gives me a chance to do things over with foreknowledge. I'm planning out my fusions so I can have exactly the demons I need without spending too much macca. I'm not doing anything too insane, (like that one guy someone linked to a few pages back,) but I am setting myself up for success. One thing that I wish I could do over is NOT buying the magatamas from the Collector Manikin. If you're not planning on getting Masakados (which I'm not,) you really don't need them. Vimana and Kamurogi are redundant because you don't need that many physical attack skills, and there are plenty of great phys skills on other magatamas. Granted, most of those are from sidequests, but I feel like the sidequests are easier and more fun than grinding up a bunch of money. I can understand buying Sofia, since the only other magatama with high-level healing skills is Geis. If you really don't want to do that annoying minigame, it might be worth it to just buy Sofia. The reason I say this is, I'm trying to complete the compendium. The biggest obstacle to completing the compendium is fusing the highest level demons. Michael, Metatron, Vishnu, and Mot especially. Michael alone will cost at least 130,000 macca to make. The enemies in the final dungeon drop a lot of macca, but I want to avoid grinding too much. But what's done is done, and I don't think I'll have any trouble reaching my goal. One thing I wish this game had: the option to kick Lucifer's rear end without joining him.
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9999DMG posted:One thing I wish this game had: the option to kick Lucifer's rear end without joining him. Maybe in the next remake? Who am I kidding, they'll never add that in. 
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Pierce posted:Alright, day 8 in DS2 Polaris via Daichi's path is beating my rear end Any tips? Reflect physical. Pierce doesn't get past reflect, so you can turn its own attacks against it. Cake Attack fucked around with this message at 06:59 on Mar 10, 2012 |
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Momomo posted:If that pissed you off, hoo boy, beating him produces something even worse. In fact, that's the part I'm stuck on right now because god drat. There's something else? Are you serious? He did have a kishin, a garm, it didn't matter, his 2 demons took them out with multi hit spells and ronaldo finished me with mow down. All I can figure is to dogpile him with everyone.
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Alteisen posted:There's something else? Are you serious? If you beat him, everyone leaves. But if you don't beat him fast enough then, the others will escape.
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Alteisen posted:There's something else? Are you serious? Beating him brings out the next big bad who splits into two parts. Said parts can form back into one again to replenish their HP and MP fully. Not beating both fast enough will result in the one left over to magically form back into two. Oh, also you have to protect Ronaldo's stupid rear end from getting killed. They replenish your health and you can relocate skills and stuff, but you can not save between these two fights. It's like they're trying to piss you off. To be honest, I didn't find the first part that bad (my physical MC kind of steps all over everything), it's just that what comes after requires you to be on your toes, and loving up makes you start it all over.
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You can save during that part using Suspend, the Suspend data remains as a "fourth" save file even after you load it.
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Momomo posted:Beating him brings out the next big bad who splits into two parts. Said parts can form back into one again to replenish their HP and MP fully. Not beating both fast enough will result in the one left over to magically form back into two. Oh, also you have to protect Ronaldo's stupid rear end from getting killed. They replenish your health and you can relocate skills and stuff, but you can not save between these two fights. It's like they're trying to piss you off. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Hold up. The two halves reforming does not replenish his HP. I know this for a fact because Ronaldo and my MC murdered him with Drain a couple of turns after he'd reformed, and no way we could do that with a full HP Phecda.
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I remember it doing so, but even if it didn't, he's still immune to every element when they're combined. When I finally killed one half the other just combined into a full one and I just said gently caress it and turned the game off.
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Pureauthor posted:Whoa, whoa, whoa. Hold up. It seems to depend on how much damage you to do both forms while it's split. In my first attempt at that battle, I killed the weak to magic form and barely scratched the weak to physical form, and when it recombined it was only missing like 20% of its health. When I tried the battle again, I killed the weak to magic form and had the weak to physical form down to critical health, and when it recombined it was in yellow health.
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