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So I did some browsing and it's my understanding that there are only 3 Ultimate Collections available for USM in Trade paperback and the rest are volumes, correct?
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Sep 2, 2011 00:53
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Cubemario posted:So I did some browsing and it's my understanding that there are only 3 Ultimate Collections available for USM in Trade paperback and the rest are volumes, correct? Yeah. The Ultimate Collections contain the same material as the hardcovers except in TPB form. The 3 Ultimate Collections of USM cover the same ground as volumes 1-6 of the TPB. So if you get the Ultimate Collections you can start getting the the trades at volume 7.
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Sep 2, 2011 01:13
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Thanks, that saves me some time. It would be really nice to get all of USM physically one of these days, but at least most of it (save a few of the last issues of Ultimate Comics Spider-Man) are available on Digital Comics Unlimited. Speaking of Ultimate Comics Spider-Man, did anyone else find the art took a huge dive when they Cubemario fucked around with this message at 02:09 on Sep 2, 2011 |
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Sep 2, 2011 01:50
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Cubemario posted:Thanks, that saves me some time. It would be really nice to get all of USM physically one of these days, but at least most of it (save a few of the last issues of Ultimate Comics Spider-Man) are available on Digital Comics Unlimited. He did 111 issues. Also he became DC exclusive for a while.
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Sep 2, 2011 02:38
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Cubemario posted:Thanks, that saves me some time. It would be really nice to get all of USM physically one of these days, but at least most of it (save a few of the last issues of Ultimate Comics Spider-Man) are available on Digital Comics Unlimited. I didn't like LaFuente at first, but it grew on me pretty quick. His cartoony style really worked for the title, especially since his volume had so much more of the high school drama stuff. It reminded me a lot of that Mary Jane title that ran a while back, and gave it kind of an all-ages feel. It was fun, just a whole lot of fun...until Peter's guts fell out and he and the Goblin killed each other, but at least Miles should be interesting.
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Sep 2, 2011 02:59
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I love LaFuente's work. His Hellcat mini with Kathryn Immonen is a lot of fun and New Mutants is one of my favorite Marvel on-goings. I thought he was a good fit for UCSM at the time with the tone they had. Stuart Immonen worked well too and I'm looking forward to Pichelli continuing on with the book. Chris Samnee also did the final Death of Spider-Man prologue, that was great stuff but I love pretty much everything he does. Thor: The Mighty Adventure and Captain America & Bucky are both really fun books. Bagley however I never really liked all that much. Ultimate Spider-Man was generally a good book with competent art, there was just never anything about Bagley's style I found particularly inspired or interesting.
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Sep 2, 2011 03:24
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I associate Ultimate Comics with bright colors and bold pen, and so far every artist on USM has nailed it.
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Sep 2, 2011 03:32
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I wish Immonen could have stayed on USM forever and ever and ever, Bagley completely bores me as an artist and Lafuente is good but not perfect.
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Sep 2, 2011 04:58
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Lurdiak posted:I wish Immonen could have stayed on USM forever and ever and ever, Bagley completely bores me as an artist and Lafuente is good but not perfect. Immonen is definitely one of my favorite artists, what is he drawing these days? I remember liking Bagley while I was reading his early USM stuff, but man it was really jarring to see him come back for the Death of Ultimate Spider-Man arc. I was kind of disappointed with the art it felt like a step back.
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Sep 2, 2011 05:07
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Lurdiak posted:I wish Immonen could have stayed on USM forever and ever and ever, Bagley completely bores me as an artist and Lafuente is good but not perfect. I agree about Immonen and Lafuente. Pichelli really grew on me during the recent Black Cat/Mysterio arc.
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Sep 2, 2011 05:18
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Immonen was loving perfect. It was a huge bummer to see him go.
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Sep 2, 2011 05:21
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I even like saying his name. Immonen. It doesn't work when I type it, but you get it.
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Sep 2, 2011 05:24
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Straight Outta CompUSA posted:Immonen is definitely one of my favorite artists, what is he drawing these days? He's working on a little art project called "Fear Itself."
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Sep 2, 2011 05:28
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When I first heard that Bagely was leaving, I was sad. Then it was announced that Immonen was taking over, and I was happy. Then Immonen left, and I didn't really like anyone after him until Bagely came back.
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Sep 2, 2011 07:05
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I was overjoyed when Bags was announced but once the issues started coming out I just wasn't feeling it. The title has moved on without him and he is definitely better off on other projects.
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Sep 2, 2011 08:16
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Bagley is still my favorite modern Spider-Man artist, JRSR is my favorite ever. But I loved Immonen too. I can see why people didn't like LaFuente. I didn't really mind the art though. I thought it fit the stories that were going on at the time. I can't see how anyone wouldn't like Pichelli though. Her art is great. Probably my favorite on the series after Bagley.
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Sep 2, 2011 13:26
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Bagley is still my favorite, I haven't read Death of Spider-Man yet so I don't have an opinion on his art there. Immonen certainly was excellent, but I did like Lafuente's covers, just not the rest of it. Pichelli is good and I liked what she was doing and I'll be interested to see her work in the new Ultimate Spider-Man.
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Sep 2, 2011 22:50
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Deadpool posted:I have a bookshelf in one room that had all of my Ultimate Marvel TPBs on it. I had every single TPB that has come out so far with the exception of Ultimate Adventures, Ultimate Iron Man 1&2, and a few of the newer volumes. Today there was roof damage and water leakage above that room. All but 21 of the trades were completely ruined. Including every single one of my Ultimate Spider-Man trades. What an awful thing to come home to today. I'm about to have to spend a lot of money getting those books back. Email me at my username @gmail.com and lets make a deal!
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Sep 3, 2011 00:05
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So I'm not sure if I'm misunderstanding "reborn" here. Is the idea that the other ultimate titles have no impact on the story here? That they provide backstory but are unnecessary to enjoy the new ones? Or just so they can start from #1 again but are continuous? Anyway I picked up hawkeye #1 and enjoyed it a lot, never really touched the old ultimate titles but used to read a lot of x-titles back in the day. It's about time we see someone with a bow and arrow shoot people in head rather than shoot chandeliers and crap
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Sep 3, 2011 04:47
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Terror Sweat posted:That was a new wasp that showed up. She was introduced in Millar's new Ultimates. A page back, but that wasn't the Red Wasp. That was supposed to be Janet. Ultimate Doomsday was riddled with artist errors. here's a few more examples: -Thor and Iron Man show up in their old costumes (same page as Wasp gently caress-up) -Spider-Man has a big red circle on his back instead of his spider symbol (same page as Wasp gently caress-up) -616 SHIELD symbol shows up in a few places, instead of the (cooler) Ultimate one -Wolverine shows up in his 616 outfit in the Ultimate Power flashback And speaking of artist errors, while I like Sara Pichelli, I can't help but be sort of wary of any continued involvement on her part in the series, mainly because she drew Tony Stark with an arc reactor in his chest during his appearance in Ultimate Spider-Man. I mean, way to show you've never read an Ultimate book prior to this assignment. Same goes for the Ultimate Doomsday guy. I know these kinds of things don't affect the story at all, but it still bothers me. Just do some loving research and stop assuming Ultimate = 616 (visually, at least).
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Sep 3, 2011 05:32
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Spoilers for Ultimates: What do comic book writers have against Uruguay? This is the second time it's been nuked, in two different companies.
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Sep 3, 2011 14:17
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Bulgaroktonos posted:Spoilers for Ultimates: It sounds like You're a gay and they dont want anyone making that joke.
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Sep 3, 2011 16:11
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Bulgaroktonos posted:Spoilers for Ultimates: Rand McNally is still OK though right?
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Sep 3, 2011 16:47
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whatsabattle posted:Rand McNally is still OK though right?
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Sep 3, 2011 17:03
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ChuckDHead posted:Definitely. Warren Ellis turned out to be kind of a dick when he posted here, but I still think Nextwave is one of the best things Marvel have published in years. Eh, he wasn't a dick.
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Sep 3, 2011 18:21
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omnibobb posted:Email me at my username @gmail.com and lets make a deal! Thanks for the offer, but I spent most of the rest of the day that day tracking down pretty much all the stuff I needed on eBay and Amazon.
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Sep 3, 2011 18:42
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Straight Outta CompUSA posted:Oh and did they ever follow up on Strange's demon orb thing releasing all that evil? I can't even remember if the FF managed to beat Dormammu or what. Oh yeah, and did we ever find out who that silhouetted person who recovered Stephen's body was?
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Sep 8, 2011 02:31
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My buddy has a ton of trades and I read the first Ultimates one. It was horrible. Is this a common problem with the Ultimate universe? I read the first year or two of Ultimate Spidey and liked it all right, but man, Ultimates was just horrific.
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Sep 8, 2011 19:02
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I thought the first Ultimates trade was the best one v v
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Sep 8, 2011 19:07
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Captain Corduroy posted:My buddy has a ton of trades and I read the first Ultimates one. It was horrible. Is this a common problem with the Ultimate universe? I read the first year or two of Ultimate Spidey and liked it all right, but man, Ultimates was just horrific. This opinion is not very common, usually the Ultimates 1 and 2 are considered some of the best offerings of the Ultimate Universe. What specifically was "horrific" about it, and are you sure it wasn't Ultimates 3 or Ultimatum instead?
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Sep 8, 2011 19:13
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Myrddin Emrys posted:This opinion is not very common, usually the Ultimates 1 and 2 are considered some of the best offerings of the Ultimate Universe. Please be more careful when you're posting Those Words. 
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Sep 8, 2011 19:14
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prefect posted:Please be more careful when you're posting Those Words. PTSD is a harsh mistress.
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Sep 8, 2011 19:17
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Jeez, okay, maybe I'm in the minority, but I couldn't stand the characterization of...nearly anybody, really. The last scene with Ant-Man and Wasp had me in basically total disbelief. What did they do to the Hulk? Why is literally everyone in this book a colossal rear end in a top hat? Like, I guess I enjoy team-up books more when it's about "people with generally good intentions but differing ideology/methodology given the task of defending the free world" and not about "a group of fundamentally broken people being assholes to each other". Take a shot any time someone drops a celebrity name and two any time Thor says "military-industrial complex".
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Sep 8, 2011 19:25
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Captain Corduroy posted:Jeez, okay, maybe I'm in the minority, but I couldn't stand the characterization of...nearly anybody, really. The last scene with Ant-Man and Wasp had me in basically total disbelief. What did they do to the Hulk? Why is literally everyone in this book a colossal rear end in a top hat? It's definitely different. I guess I'd describe it as "what if super heroes happened in the real world". Nobody is as good and pure and kind as comic-book heroes; if it happened in this world, you know they'd be enormous assholes. (And some of them do become more sympathetic over time.) A real Nazi-fighting soldier from the '40s would probably be a bit of a prick. A real Norse god probably wouldn't be an enormous fan of the US government/military. A guy who accidentally turns himself into the strongest creature on the planet might not just want to be left alone with friendly woodland critters. An alcoholic billionaire genius who built a suit of armor might not be the most reliable guy. (You can make the case that they were a little too hard on Ultimate Hank Pym. But they definitely did something different and interesting, if not likeable.) If you didn't care for the Ultimates approach, you probably need to avoid The Boys.
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Sep 8, 2011 19:35
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Blind Sally posted:Oh yeah, and did we ever find out who that silhouetted person who recovered Stephen's body was? Nope. But considering that was only in Ultimatum, it very well could just be forgotten about. Ultimate Dr. Strange Jr wasn't very important anyway.
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Sep 8, 2011 19:36
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Straight Outta CompUSA posted:Oh yeah and he was all crazy in Ultimatum too! I forgot about that. You could definitely see the seeds of Ultimate Doom in that mini, especially the end. I really hated the idea of Ultimatum and the mini itself, but it definitely did provide for some pretty cool changes to the Ultimate universe. At least they didn't kill Peter off in the Ultimatum wave like they teased. Oh and did they ever follow up on Strange's demon orb thing releasing all that evil? I can't even remember if the FF managed to beat Dormammu or what. Yeah, they whupped Dormammu, Sue put a force-field over his head and johnny turned his flames to max so that he expended all the oxygen inside the bubble and his flames went out, causing him to transform back to a human with some weird magic wand, and basically run off into the ruins of new york, never to be seen again. Felt a little weird of them to beat him in such a simple way, after he'd just made Dr.Strange look like someone left the lid off the toothpaste.
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Sep 8, 2011 19:49
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Captain Corduroy posted:Jeez, okay, maybe I'm in the minority, but I couldn't stand the characterization of...nearly anybody, really. The last scene with Ant-Man and Wasp had me in basically total disbelief. What did they do to the Hulk? Why is literally everyone in this book a colossal rear end in a top hat? I think the thing that's unique about the Ultimates is that it more or less exists as a way to keep superheroes busy while the world figures out what the gently caress to do with them. This is especially evident in Ultimates 1+2 where they mostly just bitch and fight amongst themselves. Unlike, say, the 616 Avengers, they don't really fight massive threats. They ARE the massive threats. So they just stick them in a tower together to keep them from doing something stupid. I'd say that the Ultimates is a much more realistic take on what happens when you put like 6 alpha males together on one team. Also Ultimate Cap is an rear end in a top hat because he's from the 40s and thinks everyone today is soft. 616 Cap was only frozen for like, what, 10 or 20 years? This Cap was frozen for 60. He hasn't adjusted, not even a little.
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Sep 8, 2011 20:33
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Captain Corduroy posted:Jeez, okay, maybe I'm in the minority, but I couldn't stand the characterization of...nearly anybody, really. The last scene with Ant-Man and Wasp had me in basically total disbelief. What did they do to the Hulk? Why is literally everyone in this book a colossal rear end in a top hat? All your questions can be answered with two words. Mark Millar. The post Loeb/Millar Ultimates stuff, in particular Aaron, Hickmans and Bendis' use of the characters has toned down the immediately dated celebrity stuff and the Ultimates aren't full out assholes now.
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Sep 8, 2011 20:34
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Waterhaul posted:All your questions can be answered with two words. Mark Millar. The post Loeb/Millar Ultimates stuff, in particular Aaron, Hickmans and Bendis' use of the characters has toned down the immediately dated celebrity stuff and the Ultimates aren't full out assholes now. Oh jeez, no wonder. I didn't even check the writer's name. That does answer all of my questions. Christ.
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Myrddin Emrys posted:616 Cap was only frozen for like, what, 10 or 20 years? This Cap was frozen for 60. He hasn't adjusted, not even a little.
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