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quote:And by choosing to kill Sakura Shirou has betrayed his ideal, since his aim is save everyone and Sakura is an innocent as she hasn't consciously killed anyone. Wrong. Kotomine even confirms in the route that the shadow is still actually Sakura and she's making the conscious decision to kill people.
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Nasu has said before that a battle between magi is more like a battle of concepts than a battle of power. It's less about brute strength and more about who tweak or break the laws of the world more. That's why you have characters like Ciel, which rank pretty highly on the powerlevel chart, and is no doubt faster and stronger than someone like Ryougi Shiki or Bazett, but would still likely lose to them in a fight because of their unique conceptual abilities. Bazett herself is quite capable of beating Saber however at the same time would likely lose to any of the Shikis who don't really posess any form of desperation attack to trigger Fragarach. This is kinda what we mean when we say the powerlevel chart is meaningless. It's an accurate-ish layout of how "strong" characters are in comparison to each other, but since that strength isn't what decides battles in nasuverse it's not very meaningful.
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Oct 1, 2011 14:05
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Rodyle posted:According to UTW: Thanks for the heads-up but as a reminder to you and others ITT it's bannable to discuss fansubs for any show with a legal distribution option.
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Oct 1, 2011 19:19
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Or we could follow standard ADTRW rules and not post about anything other than the contents of the anime we're currently watching? F/Z isn't a special snowflake, there are plenty of anime that get adapted from manga or VNs or LNs and the rules are the same for all of them, if you want to discuss the source material take it to another thread. The only reason this thread is full of black boxes is because type-moon fans are loving autists who can't just shut up and watch a cool anime and talk about it, so how about you take all the F/SN discussion that isnt directly related to F/Z back to the visual novel thread, and make a seperate thread for F/Z light novel if you really want although idk if zorak is cool expanding this forum to essentially cover lovely japanese light fiction.
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Oct 5, 2011 10:19
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Factor_VIII posted:That's not a Noble Phantasm though; it's just a skill he developed. Compared to actual noble phantasms I don't think it's that impressive. I do find it rather funny that if you train hard enough you can violate the laws of physics in the Nasuverse. A reflection of the Japanese culture's insistence that practice and persistence can overcome any obstacle perhaps? I severely doubt the Tsubame Gaeshi we see in F/SN is the actual technique used by the man during his lifetime. Tsubame Gaeshi was probably just a technique to slash an opponent 3 times rapidly, however over the years facts were replaced with myth and rumour until it gained the "truth" of being 3 slashes at once, an attack able to cut down a Swallow in mid-flight. And thus, that's what it was when he was summoned as a servant. You can say similar things for many actual NPs as well, it's theorised that Excalibur was just an incredibly powerful sword in King Arthur's time, but after she died the legend of the sword's glowing light that brought forth promised victory probably resulted in it gaining anti-area properties that it has when used as a NP. The important thing to remember is that although Servants are real heroes who lived in the past, their abilities and their weapons and those weapons' abilities have been "enhanced" by what society at large believes about them.
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Nov 25, 2011 17:03
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Nate RFB posted:I wonder if there was not some way he could seal it, like FSN Rider did with Breaker Gorgon. A loving simple facemask? Kayneth would probably have done that if he'd known which servant he was getting.
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Nov 28, 2011 21:09
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Factor_VIII posted:I think Emiya is actually too weak to qualify as a Saber. His main ability is creating weapons really rather than wielding them. Strength doesn't really come into it. EMIYA's element is "swords", he's possibly the most apt for Saber class in the history of the entire grail war. Obviously the class is reserved in F/SN so he gets knocked over to the next most suitable class. Makes you wonder what a Saber EMIYA could have done in the 5th war. Surely he would have won it (assuming he ignores or delays his main objective in favour of fighting the war) due to already knowing everything that happens?
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Nov 30, 2011 08:35
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Why was it so ridiculously easy for lancer to snap his spear? Looked like he didn't put any strength into it at all.
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Apr 15, 2012 03:41
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I managed to entertain myself for half an hour or so creating one of these. Might be a fun way to pass the time in the thread until next episode? No prizes for guessing who wins.
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Apr 23, 2012 05:25
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Raenir Salazar posted:e: got a blank template? I want to do one now. I just pasted in images on top of someone else's. You don't really need a template.
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Apr 23, 2012 11:57
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This episode/general nasuverse spoilers: As I understand it, people bitten by a dead apostle become Dead(shisha), and only 1 in 1000 Dead have the potential to become Dead Apostles(shito). All the residents looked like Dead as well, so what was with that magus claiming that the entire island was full of Dead Apostles? DA are meant to be really rare, unless Kerry's dad made some pretty loving incredible pills, but in that case why are all the residents depicted as brainless Dead rather than coherent sentient Dead Apostles?
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May 5, 2012 19:01
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FYI, for people complaining about rape/porn/general japan creepiness: Nasu already confirmed Realta Nua is the canon version of Fate.
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May 9, 2012 16:58
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fate/extra is essentially just canon fanfiction anyway.
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May 21, 2012 21:03
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Of course the thing to remember about powerlevels in general is that whoever is stronger doesn't automatically decide who wins. I mean, look at sport. 2 teams can play each other with one of them being noticably better than the other going into the game but it doesn't mean they automatically win. So I find it odd how people use outliers like Shirou beating gilgamesh as a basis to throw around dumb poo poo like "gilgamesh doesnt know how to fight" or "shirou is stronger than gil" etc.
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May 23, 2012 23:45
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FWIW, re: EA: Gilgamesh can't use it at full power since causing a large amount of damage to the planet would trigger a reaction of the counter force. Within a reality marble of course, he's fully unrestricted from using it at full power to destroy the "world", since no force governs the internal world of a reality marble other than the owner.
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Jun 10, 2012 06:20
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Counter Guardians are just people who made a contract with the world. The terms of the contract vary (EMIYA wanted to save a small amount of people, less than 100) but it always results in the person making the contract never being allowed to rest in peace. After their natural death, they will spend the rest of eternity as the cleanup crew, slaughtering mankind whenever they pose a threat to the world itself. I'm fairly sure EMIYA isn't a true hero (like 5th Caster/5th Rider) and the sort of hero that can only be summoned by the tainted grail. The pendant might override that restriction though since it's such a solid tie to EMIYA. We don't have any info on heroes/wars before the grail was tainted so it's a moot discussion.
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Jun 22, 2012 19:54
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Pretty much. Shirou only beat Gil due to Gil not expecting anything from him. Even Gil would get at least a little serious VS another Servant. And let's not forget what Ea does to Reality Marbles.
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