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SnakeParty
Oct 30, 2011
An artist that should be mentioned as very important in the development of Hard Bop is Horace Silver. It should be noted that Art Blakey and the Jazz Messengers was originally Horace Silver and the Jazz Messengers. I have so much respect for this loving musician. He is an iconic pianist who has made some of my favorite music and has an incredible soloing style. On albums such as Song for my Father he drives hard with his left hand while soloing creating interesting rhythms and textures.

Albums of note are Blowing the Blues Away, Song for my Father, Serenade to a Soul Sister If you have not checked out Horace Silver, please do so now!!!!

Ok, now that you have legally purchased all of his music. We can start talking about how awesome he is. One of my favorite of his songs is "Sighin' and a Cryin'" This song is so incredibly heartfelt that it makes me want to cry every time I hear it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOu5iWhexE0
Senor Blues is so deliciously thick, It evokes an image of a steamy dark South American nights. A night where you can almost taste the humidity in the velvety air.

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Hey Pas2, where's good place to start with Charlie Mingus? Really dug that tune you posted earlier.

The only thing I have at the moment is some Mingus Big Band live records, which are really great.

I really like "Charles Mingus Sextet" especially the track Nostalgia in Timesquare.

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SnakeParty
Oct 30, 2011

Noise Machine posted:


SnakeParty: Speaking of Horace Silver, I was blown away when I found out he played piano on Miles' version of "It Never Entered My Mind". I had no idea he could play piano like THAT.

what MD album is that on?

SnakeParty
Oct 30, 2011

BeigeJacket posted:

I posted this in the recommendation thread, but I'm thinking I'll have more luck here.


Also some dudes making a biopic of Miles

http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2011/nov/10/miles-davis-biopic-george-tillman-jr?newsfeed=true

I think it's gonna star Don Cheadle, which wouldn't be a bad piece of casting at all.

BeigeJacket, are you looking for a jazz player who rocks cocks on the fretless? If so, look no further than Jaco Pastorius. The man popped off the frets on his own Fender Jazz Bass. His music veils his rather tumultuous life which tragically ended as a result of a bar fight. Still his contributions on the low-end are incredibly important with jazz-fusion group Weather Report. However, if you are looking for something a little more sparse, I know Jaco has done a myriad of recordings with John Scofield and a drummer whose name escapes me...the recordings are totally funky and feature the signature smooth bass licks of Jaco, and Scofields interesting guitar tones and nasty soloing.

SnakeParty
Oct 30, 2011
poo poo I ALMSOT FORGOT

Stan Getz, Joao Gilberto, and Antonio Carlos Jobims' Bossa Nova album entices me to romance beautiful, classy women while walking along a sunny cobblestone street somewhere in Brazil, or dining on freshly caught Ahi Tuna and drinking a nice pinot over a candlelit dinner in a thatched hut as waves gently break on the beach. It makes me feel so incredibly mellow, with Getz's lithe soloing and the careful fingerings of Joao Gilbertos nylon strings.

Desifinado

However reality is that when I listen to this song I am alone in a drunken stupor (or hungover and shirtless as I am now) reminiscing of past lovers, while the only women I am currently able to swoon are classless whores...

The music still makes me feel good though :allears:

Sorry for the doublepost

SnakeParty
Oct 30, 2011

Ras Het posted:

Getz & Gilberto would be a great album without Getz's schmaltzy sax and Astrud Gilberto's hideous vocals. And I could do with Jobim's piano too, they have their place but I don't think it's with Joćo's vocals. So basically, if it was exactly like the first two of Joćo Gilberto's solo albums, it would be worth listening to :) Like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQXAhAqDuNQ

I do like Quincy Jones' Big Band Bossa Nova, cos it's mostly just Jobim's songs played as jazz rather than schmaltzified bossa.

You make a good point, however "schmaltzy" is a matter of opinion. I quite enjoy Astrud Gilberto's voice. It is rather unique, but I could totally understand why you wouldn't like it. I agree that some of the recordings these three do together can be rather contrived and I absolutely could do without those blasted strings muddling up a good song like Felicidade. I wish I could find a recording of this song with just guitar, drums, and voice.

case in point

(pardon the really crappy youtube) I have a really lo-fi recording of this song with the street sounds of Carnivale in the background and it makes it feel really mysterious.

I love love love this song with Tom Jobim and Elis Regina. I think their call and response vocals is wonderful.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHEQ-m4KSaQ
Again though, those blasted strings....

What Quincy Jones big band bossa would you recommend? any good youtubes?

SnakeParty
Oct 30, 2011

Ras Het posted:

I assume you're referring to the Black Orpheus version of A Felicidade? There's plenty of more understated recordings of it, though I doubt any by Jobim, he always liked to go all the way with the over-arrangement.

This is from Vinicius de Moraes' live album with Toquinho and Maria Creuza, I totally love it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvfSE6q8R-c

And for something much more skeletal, avant-sambista Tom Zé covered it in the '70s, his take is kinda unnerving: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=im6hPaxs_qw

I reckon the Elis & Tom version of Įguas de Marēo is perfect as it is, but that song has been recorded roughly seven billion times, so there's lots of styles to pick from. I like Joćo Gilberto's version on his '73 s/t a lot, it's minimalistic but kinda upbeat: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keZulqPcPag

I meant the album by that title. You'll have heard half of the songs before anyway, it's just a goofy little album of lightweight jazz and no masterpiece, hah: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kl4IWnoYMjo

Yah, I was referring to the Black Orpheus Version. Thanks for showing my contrived over-produced samba up with your wonderful, minimalist samba, haha. Seriously though thanks, my collection of Joao Gilberto is currently inadequate and must be bigger! I have been trying to learn the guitar parts on Aguas de Marco (those voiceings are loving difficult!) and Gilberto's version gives me something a little easier to pick apart.

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In the ways of modern jazz what is everybody listening to? Personally I've been listening to a lot of Sao Paulo Underground


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4XijbNSqh0

That poo poo is sick

Has anyone heard of Mulatu Astatke? He is not exactly modern but what a loving groove. I think Nas sampled this song...

SnakeParty
Oct 30, 2011
that was, like, a million goddamn blunts

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SnakeParty
Oct 30, 2011

Wabbit posted:

Sidney Bechet is in a class by himself, so listen to more Sidney Bechet first of all.
Blue Horizon: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBoO0GMadAg
Egyptian Fantasy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duJlOOJlV6U
are favorites of mine - on clarinet instead of soprano sax, but he's fantastic on both.

I think the clarinet/sax player from the New Black Eagles does a pretty decent imitation at times:
The Mooche http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6g8Wig3huOs

For that general style of music without Sidney Bechet's sound just look for Louis Armstrong, Jack Teagarden, King Oliver the '20s and '30s New Orleans traditional jazz sound.

Another master of the licorice stick is Mr. Gardi Gras, Pete Fountain ala Pierre Dewey La Fontaine Jr. I don't know how prolific of a song writer he was, but he absolutely captures the soul of New Orleans Jazz. Although some of his music sounds a little hokey today, His rendition of "My Blue Heaven" is quite the groovin' tune. It makes me real happy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wBuFWKCUNo

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