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Polo-Rican
Jul 4, 2004

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edit: I don't know anything about tablet prices

Polo-Rican fucked around with this message at 19:12 on Jun 27, 2012

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Polo-Rican
Jul 4, 2004

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hotsauce posted:

I emailed him a few times back and forth and asked if he would sell his Nexus 7 (he didn't want to). I emailed an offer anyway for the Q and Nexus 7. $500. He just emailed back and said deal!

Only $500 for a used $300 device + a used $200 device?? What a steal!

Polo-Rican
Jul 4, 2004

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Siroc posted:

Edit: If you're on 18th Street in Manhattan, go to Adorama and get one now: http://www.theverge.com/2012/7/12/3154733/nexus-7-availability

I'm a huge nerdhole and work near there, so I skipped by. The salesman said that they accidentally let one guy get off with one, but that they can't sell until Sunday morning. So looks like Sunday's the day!

edit:
Haha, reading The Verge, apparently Google called adorama and told them to halt sales. That's an intimidating phone call to get!

Polo-Rican
Jul 4, 2004

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Don Lapre posted:

You can probably just walk into a staples before then and pick one up.

Depends where you are. Every Stapes in the New York City metropolitan area is sold out. I biked to a hidden Staples tucked under a highway, in a weird area near the queens / brooklyn border, and the guy said they had sold “all four.” Four is apparently the standard shipment Staples is getting.

Previously you could view the N7 on the staples site and see which stores had it in stock, but now you can't even get to the N7 on staples.com.

Polo-Rican
Jul 4, 2004

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BunLengthHotDog posted:

possible screen creep fix

This worked on my N7. The left edge was popping up, but just barely... like, we're talking a half-millimeter. Now it's perfect! Took only like 2 minutes.

Polo-Rican
Jul 4, 2004

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If any of you are DIY types and itching for a good n7 case, you should consider making one yourself from a small hardcover. I decided to try it out this past Saturday and it turned out so much better than I thought it would. I was expecting my efforts to yield a sloppy case that would hold me over until I bought a "real" one, but it's solid enough that I might just use this until it breaks.



Literally took me no more than 20 minutes of effort.

• With x-acto knife, cut out pages of a small hardcover
• cut a piece of black felt to match the cover size
• get some black elastic (at any dollar store) and sew it into 2 loops, which you then thread through slits in the felt
• with spray adhesive or a good glue, really soak the hell out of the back of the felt, then press onto book

Polo-Rican
Jul 4, 2004

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Kynetx posted:

Lovely! Nice work.

Thanks! But it's already falling apart. Either heavy strength spray adhesive isn't strong enough or I didn't put enough on.

BunLengthHotDog posted:

possible screen creep fix


As an update, I did this a few days ago and it seemed to work, but yeah, a day later the screen was back up. But we're literally talking a half-millimeter here. If I hadn't read about the defect on this thread I would almost definitely have not spotted it at all.

Polo-Rican
Jul 4, 2004

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Shadowgate posted:

I was having some very minor screen separation issues and I did this trick using a clamp: http://therealtonystark.blogspot.ca/2012/07/google-nexus-screen-separation-fix.html

It's been a few days now and it's still holding, so give that a shot if you don't feel like dealing with a return.

I tried the screw trick and it didn't work, but this really does seem to work.

I didn't use a clamp, all I did was roll up a paper towel into a soft tube, lay that on the left side of the tablet, and then stacked a few heavy (but not too heavy) books on it and let it sit overnight. 3 and a half days later and it's still perfectly flush.

Polo-Rican
Jul 4, 2004

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Freezer posted:

Tried a clamp-like solution for screen lift on N7 (just applied pressure on that area of the screen and left a couple of books on top of it for a day or so). Seems to have fixed the issue for me.

It's going to be really, really funny if the confirmed solution for the screen lift problem turns out to be "push it down for a while."

Problem: Screen is poppin up!
Solution: Push it down.

Polo-Rican
Jul 4, 2004

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Endless Mike posted:

The confirmed solution is "return it to where you purchased and get another." There's no excuse for keeping something broken out of the box, even if it's an easy fix.

This is true, but it is also important to know the difference between something "being broken" and something "having an imperfection so small that it takes multiple attempts to even realize it exists, and is also 100% solvable by putting a book on it while you sleep."

Polo-Rican
Jul 4, 2004

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Zarkov Cortez posted:

The http://kck.st/LA1hsC cases look nice but I too want to see other people's reviews on the products.

I posted this like 10 pages back or so, and I'm not trying to toot my own horn or anything, but it's actually really easy to make one of these yourself. It's a really fun, satisfying, and easy craft project. If you live near a small bookstore, I guarantee you could find a small hardcover the perfect size. Then you just cut the pages out, glue felt (or whatever) to the inside with some elastic loops. And then you have the added appeal of it being a real book, not just the design of a real book printed onto whatever material the kickstarter guy is using.



It actually looks a lot better in real life (photo was taken in cubicle lighting with a cell phone camera).

Polo-Rican fucked around with this message at 15:40 on Aug 2, 2012

Polo-Rican
Jul 4, 2004

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Ender.uNF posted:

I also discovered another annoying UI issue... If you remove an app from the home screen it doesn't uninstall it. I know that because as a developer I know Remove does not imply Uninstall in this context, even though most users expect it to because of Windows' Add/Remove programs. But you can't uninstall from the list of apps either that I can tell. You have to go to Settings for that.

In my opinion this is the best thing about android. Because I use computers and android devices, it's insane to me that, in iOS, if you have an app installed you have to have it on your homescreens somewhere. This leads to every iPad user having a "junk" folder on a homescreen somewhere, which is ridiculous.

Should every app really have to live on a homescreen? What about apps you use just once a month or once a year? Should those be granted equal real estate to apps you use every day? Do you have literally every single program installed on your PC as a desktop shortcut?

Polo-Rican fucked around with this message at 04:29 on Aug 3, 2012

Polo-Rican
Jul 4, 2004

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Ender.uNF posted:

The iOS home screen is a better design precisely because if offers less choice**

This argument only makes sense if android forced design choices on its users, but it doesn't — I know lots of not-technically-inclined people who use android phones, and they simply leave the homescreen design the way it was when they got it. They don't bother customizing things, all they do is add some more apps to homescreens. They never had their minds boggled or were paralyzed with indecision because they realized they could tweak their settings. In fact, lots of these people don't even realize that they can change stuff.

Also, there are a lot of weird as gently caress things on iOS too that make even less sense than poo poo on Android. We just don't think about them because iOS has been around for a long time. (The "jiggling icons" system is totally insane, as is having an whole homescreen for search arbitrarily placed to the left of your other homescreens, etc)

Syrinxx posted:

I just want to agree with Ender that "Google Play" is a horrible name for a store and implies nothing about buying or installing apps.

I don't mind the name "Google Play." I think they picked that name because, despite the fact that tons of people own android devices, there's still the perception that android is for tech nerds to do tech poo poo on. With the name Google Play they're really trying to emphasize to the public that, like all touchscreen devices, they're primarily for fun.

Polo-Rican fucked around with this message at 14:37 on Aug 3, 2012

Polo-Rican
Jul 4, 2004

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Soul Glo posted:

Buying a Nexus 7 today provided my Staples receives the shipment they expect. It will be my first Android device. After using iOS for the last two years, kinda intimidated. Any good guides to help me get started, or will there be one on the device itself?

Just remember that, unlike iOS, your apps primarily live in the app drawer, not on the homescreens. This is great because it gives you freedom to do almost anything you can imagine with your homescreens. This seems to be the biggest hurdle for people coming from iOS.

Polo-Rican
Jul 4, 2004

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powderific posted:

I just got my replacement Nexus 7 and it also has the screen lifting issue. The replacement process was fairly painless, but I think I'm just going to deal at this point as I don't care enough to keep trying over and over again.

Suggesting this makes goons furious, but yeah, just put something soft over the left edge (hand towel?) and put a few heavy (not too heavy though) books on it overnight. It's less scary than a clamp. I did it once overnight and my n7 has now been totally perfect for 7+ days.

Polo-Rican
Jul 4, 2004

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Tech sites estimate that the nexus 7 will sell between 3 and 8 million in 2012. Those are just estimates, but still.

I work in the digital department of a pretty big company and the nexus is the only android tablet I've ever heard non-goons talk about besides the nook color and kindle fire. It got a lot of press on mainstream news sites.

Polo-Rican
Jul 4, 2004

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beerinator posted:

Let's all remember that page 133 is the funniest page in the Android Tablet Thread.

The funniest page in this thread is whatever page you finally realize that the "Ainol Elf II" isn't some long, abstracted meta-joke and is, in fact, an actual product that goons are buying.

Polo-Rican
Jul 4, 2004

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Thermopyle posted:

Wouldn't it be funny if the Fire did so well as to move stock Android tablets into obscurity and Google put all this work in to making Amazon money.

I think it's a real possibility. The Nexus 7 seemed to represent Google at the top of their marketing game - they advertised the poo poo out of it and it's a supremely solid device, but still, nobody I know talks about it, and I only know one other dude who owns one. I hear more talk about the iPad mini, and that hasn't even been marketed at all. That combined with the hard push Microsoft is going to make into the tablet space soon, plus the hard push Amazon is making now, makes me wonder if there will be "Android tablets" at all by the end of 2013.

Polo-Rican
Jul 4, 2004

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Is it just me or is the new Kindle Fire OS literally nothing but a series of carousels? Like, a carousel of books, a carousel of games, etc? All of the tech sites are just showing screenshots of the hardware, almost nothing of the user experience besides the reading app.

Polo-Rican
Jul 4, 2004

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Vagrancy posted:

Yup, Carousels and bookshelves all the way down. Even in the browser.

It's like they tried to go really minimalist and slick, but instead it just looks kind of lazy. If this is the main user experience, talk about brutal:



Then again, I've always hated this kind of thing, dating back to the first time Apple introduced Cover Flow. It looks neat for like 5 seconds but it's really the worst way to browse libraries of content.

Also is that all Helvetica? Urg.

edit:
Looking at the screenshot Vagrancy posted, I wonder what methods they're using to filter the "Trending Now" section. That's what I want to see every time I open a new tab, a list of huffpo celebrity porn articles.

Polo-Rican fucked around with this message at 21:54 on Sep 6, 2012

Polo-Rican
Jul 4, 2004

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randyest posted:

Which is the best ~10" android tablet these days? ... Anything new on the horizon that might challenge it?

It's one inch short, but based on its internals, the 9" kindle fire will almost definitely be a contender (if you root it).

edit:
Wow, I didn't realize it wasn't being released until late November!! I don't think it's exciting enough to reveal that early, Amazon!

Polo-Rican
Jul 4, 2004

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krushgroove posted:

What witchery did you use to redownload everything?

When I activated and turned on my nexus 7, I realized like 5 minutes later that all of the apps on my android phone had already been downloaded and installed like magic!! It's all just tied to your google account.

Polo-Rican
Jul 4, 2004

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zmcnulty posted:

I'm interested in seeing a) if tablets are as useful as everyone says

They're not really useful at all, just immensely convenient & comfortable for some things. Although if you don't have an ereader, that's at least one legitimate use. Anyways, don't go into the tablet thing hoping for extreme usefulness. They're just nice and fun and the best way to read internet stuff in bed.

zmcnulty posted:

how Android compares to iOS, because I've given up on Apple so need to decide between Microsoft and Google as my next ecosystem.

The only reason to move to Microsoft is if you're really in love with the Metro style (which is, admittedly, really awesome). Android is way ahead in the app game, and is infinitely more flexible, and is also really visually slick with stock Jelly Bean.

One big windows turnoff for me is that Microsoft mandates their Metro look and feel extend within apps, so everything ends up feeling really, really "samey." This is also a problem because there are a few annoying usability issues inherent to the Metro style (for example, knowing how long a horizontally scrolling page is), which in turn propagate into every app.

Polo-Rican
Jul 4, 2004

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The Dave posted:

You know that's very subjective, what is 'useful'. "the best way to read internet stuff in bed" is what makes my Nexus 7 extremely useful. I'm not expecting to do Photoshop on it.

Yeah, "useful" is very subjective. There's just this annoying dialogue circulating in the tech world now that PCs are dead and that tablets will overtake everything. I'm just making sure he's not actually expecting that.

I have a pretty small laptop (13") so I was actually annoyed with my nexus 7 for a while, because I couldn't find anything to do with it that I couldn't simply do with my laptop. But then I slowly settled into the mindset that the nexus was just a fun thing for reading with and playing some games on in the pooper and now I love it. I had to actively move myself away from viewing it as a tool and instead view it as a toy.

Polo-Rican fucked around with this message at 15:04 on Sep 25, 2012

Polo-Rican
Jul 4, 2004

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I'm super pissed off. I gave myself a paper cut, so I weighed the piece of paper, and it weighs less than a gram! This doesn't make any sense at all because I've placed a bowling ball on my palm and, even though it weighs a lot more, it doesn't cut me at all?

edit: according to google a bowling ball should be around 5443.11 grams, so it should do 5443 times as much damage to my hand as that piece of paper did...

Polo-Rican fucked around with this message at 18:08 on Sep 27, 2012

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Jul 4, 2004

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Cakefool posted:

Japan question - my boss is flying to Japan in a week & is thinking of picking up a nexus 7 or kindle fire HD, can either of these be bought in stores over there?

It shows up on the website of Yodobashi Camera (one of the biggest / most popular electronics stores over there) as "available over the counter," so almost definitely.

Polo-Rican
Jul 4, 2004

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Really hoping some miracle occurs and google doesn't really announce two Really Ugly devices on monday. Who knows what the real product will look like, but looking at the drawing, it has curves that are generally only seen on tablets for children (not exaggerating).

Polo-Rican
Jul 4, 2004

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Don Lapre posted:

Why is there is there so much lag on the new 10?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dt1ZKiZaem8&t=78s

That's just The Verge site. Everything on my nexus 7 works smooth as butter but The Verge acts exactly like that — I can barely scroll around at all, sometimes it doesn't even register scrolls, etc.

I think they dynamically load their content as you scroll to save bandwidth or something and it fucks with chrome. I'm guessing this is the case because sometimes when I scroll on the N7, there will be no content there, and it will suddenly pop in. Again, this only happens on the verge's site.

Kind of annoys me that they knock the browser for acting weird when it's just their site, and that they knock the app ecosystem while The Verge themselves haven't put out a tablet-optimized android app. The app ecosystem problem is a real catch 22.

Polo-Rican fucked around with this message at 20:36 on Nov 2, 2012

Polo-Rican
Jul 4, 2004

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Yeah, I had a big hard-on for epaper for a long time, and was one of those guys who would say "Reading on a backlit screen will never feel natural!" But reading on the Nexus 7 feels great and I don't experience any eye strain at all. I actually prefer the nexus to my epaper device, because flipping pages and exploring the book is so much faster.

Polo-Rican
Jul 4, 2004

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Just updated my Nexus 7 to 4.2. So.... This sucks!! What exactly is the benefit supposed to be here? I have no need for multi user support. Feels like a solid step back to me,

Polo-Rican
Jul 4, 2004

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Is anyone able to change their profile pic on Android 4.2? When I slide down the settings drawer I'm greeted with this horrible old pic that I had on my forgotten Google+ profile. Now no matter what I do it won't let me change it. I thought it was tied to Google+, but even changing my profile picture there isn't working.

edit:
Forget it, I think one of Google's photo upload servers was temporarily down or something because all of a sudden it's working now.

Polo-Rican fucked around with this message at 19:24 on Nov 17, 2012

Polo-Rican
Jul 4, 2004

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Maker Of Shoes posted:

After you've changed it on your Google Profile (also tied to G+) do a manual resync in Settings>Accounts. Worked for me.

This solution seems to work reliably, thanks! Pretty insane that it doesn't simply change your picture when you click "upload new picture." Feels like a straight-up bug.

Cakefool posted:

I can't be the only one who's fine with the dual shades on portrait, surely?

Once you get used to it it's fine, but it's pretty bad from a UX perspective and probably really confusing for people who don't actively follow tech blogs and therefore know about this functionality in advance. You're given no indication whatsoever of where to drag your finger, and no indication that two shades even exist! If you drag down from the center of the screen, it's like you're flipping a coin as to which one will open, which is super bad because users have been training themselves to drag from the center of the screen for years.

I think the issue would be partly solved if the shades actually animated diagonally from the upper left / upper right corners, to train users in thinking that one comes from the upper left and one comes from the upper right. Because right now they both animate from roughly the middle, which doesn't reinforce the new behavior they're trying to teach.

Plus yeah, that rubber banding effect... dear god...

Polo-Rican fucked around with this message at 19:40 on Nov 17, 2012

Polo-Rican
Jul 4, 2004

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Cakefool posted:

The lockscreen on my n7 has disappeared - I changed nothing & this morning the power button takes me straight to a home screen. I reset it to slide, no dice. Anyone else had this?

You lucky bastard! If you figure out how this happened, be sure to let us know!

Polo-Rican
Jul 4, 2004

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$40 would be fine if it looked nice... not to say it's "ugly" but it's one of those things where you look at it and say "that sure is a piece of plastic." iPod docks are also just pieces of plastic, yes, but at least it looks like some effort was at least put into design there.

Polo-Rican
Jul 4, 2004

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Vagrancy posted:

Flipboard now has a tablet optimized layout/Nexus 10 support.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=flipboard.app

Wow, I thought this would never happen.

Kind of funny that this happened on the same day that Press was released (another pretty RSS reader for android tablets):

http://www.theverge.com/2012/12/19/3786686/press-android-rss-reader-with-good-design-hands-on

Polo-Rican
Jul 4, 2004

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I also think they do that so that people realize that android isn't iOS and you can do more than just a grid of app icons. If they gave you empty home screens to start off with, most casual users would probably just do the iOS 4x5 icon grid and never even know that widgets exist.

Polo-Rican
Jul 4, 2004

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joedevola posted:

Those corners :ohdear:

Hire a loving designer Samsung.

Nature is their designer. Nature :downs:

Polo-Rican
Jul 4, 2004

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The framerate on my Nexus 7 is almost always perfect. Once every two months the Verge will run some weird banner ad that will freak out Chrome but otherwise, yeah, if everything feels jerky and stuttery then there's probably something wrong with that device.

Polo-Rican
Jul 4, 2004

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If you're on Time Warner, they started (illegally? who knows) throttling YouTube at some point in the recent past. Google around, there's an IP you can block to get it streaming lightning fast.

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Polo-Rican
Jul 4, 2004

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Yeah, I figured something was up when around 6 months ago I was suddenly not able to watch a single Onion video on YouTube without having to Pause N' Cache twice in the middle. I mean, Google is bad at a lot of things, but servers and speed is not one of them.

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