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Dejan Bimble
Mar 24, 2008

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BIZORT posted:

I can't tell the difference between any of the basketball shoes I've ever owned except for how long they lasted

I'm the same way. My feelings about shoes are, oh it's been two months and these are completely dead. Or, wow it's 4 months and they're still fine.

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Dejan Bimble
Mar 24, 2008

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BIZORT posted:



The next day I go see him and he tells me I have ruptured a ligament and fractured my ankle in two places, one of which is right in the joint, and because of this I'll need surgery or I run the risk of the bone dying and, later, collapsing. So now I am seriously contemplating playing ball again after this because I've had various knee issues I've rehabbed through and now this; it's becoming an expensive hobby and my body seemingly isn't able to keep up with it. The specialist hinted that my ankle was weak to begin with, though, and this surgery will hopefully fix that long-term. I'm pretty bummed. I've been playing basketball for about 25 years and it's slowly being taken away. Getting old is awful.

Man I'm sorry, I sympathize. Nobody tells you that your body will start breaking down in your middle twenties and presumably get worse from there. I can't even think about doing something strenuous outside a pool without clearing the next day for icing and laying on the floor. When I play basketball now I stand at the 3 point line and lightly jog back on defense. It really sucks, but there are things you can do without putting undue strain on your body, and if you're very very conscientious about training, biomechanics, and recovery, you can still do what you love once in a while.

Dejan Bimble
Mar 24, 2008

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Sypher posted:

Ok So I am 100% officially signed up for a league. I am 29 years old and haven't played since High School. Nobody on my team besides myself and one other has played an organized game of basketball beyond youth. It should be hilarious, but I ask you. What is the best way to be somewhat competitive? I am thinking just man to man defense with a lot of pick & roll plays. I have a couple extremely athletic players on my team(one of them is top 100 cross-fit in the USA), but they have no bball IQ. Give me some ideas for easy plays for a bunch of newbies.

Get on that Steph Curry non jumping jumpshot.

Then, like everyone else said, teach everyone the basics of the pick and roll, my Church league basketball coach taught me in a day and I was just some dumb kid in a polo shirt. It's not hard at all.

Dejan Bimble
Mar 24, 2008

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laz0rbeak posted:

I didn't throw any punches, but about a year and a half ago I was on a court with a really sketchy white dude with dreads. He was getting mad at the 16-17 year old kid guarding him too tight, and after the two did a little trash-talking, he comes down with the ball and when the kid goes to guard him, he just sucker-punched him. I got between them, and this little poo poo takes a few swings at me like I'm coming at him, instead of, you know, separating him from the teenager he just punched. I ended up biting through my lip and getting a few stitches, along with a black eye, and was a groomsmen in a wedding that weekend looking like Frankenstein's monster. Of course the dude took off immediately, and the gym's only listed address for the guy was out of state, so even though I pressed charges, nothing ever happened.

Edit: here's a pic from the wedding, I think 3-4 days later:



I hope he didn't give you herpes simplex 10 or anything

Dejan Bimble
Mar 24, 2008

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Doltos posted:

I pulled off the invention move on a tall black kid who said Hah, Okay, then proceeded to block my next seven shots

Hhahaha. That's so fantastic.

I finished my first 2 months of rehab for my back, and I'm waiting on a new rx for more. So I played a little pickup at the gym and could actually jump and move a little bit. It was nice.

Dejan Bimble
Mar 24, 2008

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What's the best basketball shoe review place? I'm looking for some basket shoes that are extra fortified and that can support the brittle ankles of a pan european body.

Dejan Bimble
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RCarr posted:

I still play, but only once a week or so. My back is so hosed up that it takes me that long to recover from playing for 2 hours. I have poo poo insurance too so I can't really do anything about it :(

Theres a book called becoming a supple leopard that sort of walks you through fixing body stuff. If you can't get your insurance to pay for rehab it's worth a shot.

Dejan Bimble
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straight up brolic posted:

Pick-up basketball thread: everyone who started this thread is broken

You turn 26 and it's over. It's all loving downhill and unless you have a personal physical therapist and trainer you're totally hosed. Get on the HGH if you want to stay healthy .

Dejan Bimble
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thompson posted:

I'm blessed to live in San Diego where there are over 12 rec centers countywide that have open gym on various days of the week. An actual indoor court really makes a difference. The rims are softer, the ground is softer, ball handling even seems easier.

I'm 26 and am currently battling shin splints and plantar fasciitis. The trick to keeping myself going has been a foam roller and plenty of ice. There are techniques that kept me grinding through college tennis. I'm no trainer or anything like that, but getting ice and rolling into your daily routine is greatly going to increase your recovery time. Also, don't forget to stretch guys. The primary reason we all get hurt is that we don't amply stretch.

I've been playing ball 5 times a week for 4 months now. It's amazing to see the improvement in my left hand. Just a few months ago I was limited to post play and 3 pointers at 6'1''. Now i'm able to pull up for three, drive with the ball, cross and take a step back, and really my game has opened up. Ball handling really is the key.

Stretching is important but good biomechanics and strong accessory muscles are just as important. If you have biomechanical problems you'll get an injury. Stay vigilant and you can Basketball harder than the rest

Dejan Bimble fucked around with this message at 20:22 on Feb 4, 2015

Dejan Bimble
Mar 24, 2008

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The first day playing in brand new shoes is a special feeling

Dejan Bimble
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RCarr posted:

Yes, it's especially painful when you develop blisters on all the new spots where your old shoes didn't rub up on.

You need to upgrade your socks my friend, good socks are the key

Dejan Bimble
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danucleus posted:

This is more a strength (probably technique too) related question: how do you guys keep from getting stripped within the arc? I'm 5'10" and I would like to cut and get in the paint way more than I normally do, but it's hard because when interior D is packing in, I sometimes get stripped. I just hate getting stripped in these or 50/50 situations and sometimes I think the defense may be reaching in, but who wants to be that guy? I hate hugging the ball in these situations because it stops everything, but maybe that's what I should just do?

So, any workout or general tips?

If they're reaching in, don't be afraid to hip bump them or give them a stiff arm. I suppose you might want to do squats to strongthin your legs and do some back and core work to give you the power to push

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Intruder posted:

I don't remember the model, they're at home so I can't check. They're fairly cheap Nikes I bought at Academy

e: Overplay VIII, specifically these



Your shoes are charged with static electricity

Dejan Bimble
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I know they're probably sold for 8x the production cost, but the made in USA nike basketball socks are great, they might be the greatest. I can go for so much longer without footaches

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Intruder posted:

Might have to try them because I spend the hours between ball and bed alternating between walking gingerly around the house and using the shiatsu foot massager I've at this point basically confiscated from my wife

The socks are great. People say the official NBA socks are the best, but the stores nearest to me don't sell them, so I can't buy them enough for my sake rotation purposes.

Have you tried wrapping your ankles and your insoles? That helps a lot. If I don't, the big knobby bone on the top of the arch aches forevermore.

My strategy now is to wrap everything, I wrap insoles, ankles, knees, and elbows. When you pass 26 any lateral movement in the joints comes back to haunt you, better to prevent it at the source.

Dejan Bimble
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socketwrencher posted:

What do you wrap it with?

I used to use plain bandages, but then I developed an allergy to the latex, so I bought some FUTURO brand ankle/knee/elbow wraps

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Regnevelc posted:

sure, that's what they all say

Hahaha it causes micro-tears and is nearly inevitable!!!!!!

Doltos posted:

Wrapping your joints and muscles are used for a variety of reasons that depend from person to person. So you're right that wrapping for everyone isn't necessary, but it is for a lot of people.

Strength conditioning and endurance training are great, same with stretching, but everything has to be done with specificity. Specificity basically just means train/stretch to mimic the actions you'll take in game. Pickup basketball is a bit different than normal basketball in that the games are shorter but you don't get a break until the game is over. That means if you're playing a 20 minute game you're surpassing the glycolytic energy system and enter into the oxidative one, the energy system long distance runners use.

So basically if you want to keep your joints healthy wrapping can be smart, but restricting joint movement isn't always great, especially if you jump a lot or shoot a lot. Like big guys who wrap their knees in the NBA do so because they're only jumping for rebounds or standing dunks. But if you're a 5'11 weekend warrior playing PG and your repertoire is exclusively outside turn around jumpers, then limiting the plane of movement and the range of movement of your joints isn't that smart. Arm sleeves/leg sleeves are also used for stability. Like you know why you use a lifting belt? It gives stability to the spinal column by increasing abdominal pressure through restricting the flow of blood (side note: people who wear weight belts all the time at the gym and never take them off are doing themselves no favors at all for long term muscle strength). Same concept with arm sleeves/leg sleeves. You should only wear the compression kind if you actually have problems with blood pooling in your feet or you have ridiculously long arms that get cold. Normal non-compression wraps are fine though. Look like Kirk Hinrich, we all secretly know it's cool as poo poo to wear four sleeves.

Stretching is really weird. Basically there is a ton of research that says it helps prevent injuries and also does nothing to prevent injuries. In fact, many people stretching completely wrong. Like they'll stretching out their elbows and knees with an isocentric movement, hold it there for 10-15 seconds, and all of a sudden they actually weakened the ligaments in their joints, which means they'll lift less/jump lower. Stretching should always mimic the action you're taking in game. So for basketball it's really good to roll from the heel to the balls of your feet and hold it for just a moment or two. Mimicing running helps too, so like putting your arm against the wall and moving your leg back and forth. Also believe it or not skipping is like one of the best stretches you can do for basketball. It's why you see NBA players skip around the court early. Moving your hips up and down while keeping stride smoothly is basically an awesome warmup and great for your joints.

And if you're an old gently caress and you don't want to get gassed in the middle of a game, just go outside and walk/jog/run.

Thank you for the info. I have a food sensitivity that I didn't know I had for a few years, and part of the triggered immune response was against my joints, which left me with arthritis-like pains in the ones that got the most wear. If I know I haven' had any exposure in a while, then I'll play without wrapping them, but if I've had any exposure in the last week or so, or I've just been playing a lot, I wrap them, just based on what hurt and what didn't hurt when/where.


The Arnie Kander training tip videos on pistons.com have some good stuff in the vein you're recommending.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwswF-KSqco
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=playlist
Here are some short videos that show some basketball drills

He was forcibly demoted by Stan Van Gundy, after overseeing one of the healthiest teams in the NBA during his tenure. Van Gundy is a huge fat rear end in a top hat

Dejan Bimble fucked around with this message at 01:34 on Jul 29, 2015

Dejan Bimble
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Intruder posted:

Went to bed last night with a little bit of a tweak in my knee, woke up with swelling and pain and I can't bend it more than 45 degrees or so without shooting pain

gently caress

That's probably normal swelling from a little sprain or strain, just ice it and stay off it

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All the lillards look like winamp visualizations

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