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Lazyfire
Feb 4, 2006

God saves. Satan Invests

Coolguye posted:

Roboky and I get at least one of those a week. My advice would be to ignore them unless someone goes out of their way to get to know you specifically. A lot of them have a serious catch, such as requiring that you put out videos every weekday or something, and generally they'll treat you like a cog in their machine. If you want to make money on your videos, go for it, that's your right and honestly I think more LPers should do that since I feel it'll generally raise the bar on what we get out of LPs. But I kinda think it'd be a better idea to work on building some of your own infrastructure first so you have the basing to say to the more shady fucks "I don't NEED your kind here."

I had no intention of partnering with any channel, it isn't worth it in the end. I was going to YouTube partner and monetize some videos as an experiment, but I can't justify making people watch ads before videos to myself.

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Rigged Death Trap
Feb 13, 2012

BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP

That for life poo poo must be illegal somewhere. Seriously.

Dartigan
Oct 7, 2013

Slowbeef posted:

I'd be interested to know horror stories from Machinima.

I have a copy of the contract Machinima sent me a month ago when they were trying to get me to sign with them. A lot of bad stuff in it. For instance, no twitch streaming. You are restricted from using any video streaming service other than youtube's live stream which sucks. You have to promote Machinima through social media likes on facebook, retweets on twitter and likes to their vids on youtube and putting their channel in your recommended list. And what makes this especially heinous is they offer you yourself no promotion unless you are already big.

Another thing is the three year contract lock in. In the past they have signed people forever to Machinima with no way to leave and forced their smaller partners to accept a smaller revenue share.

The Heavenator
Feb 28, 2011

BangBangBang! Commando of the Galaxy
My knowledge of contract law is pretty limited, and Canadian contract law to boot, but I'm pretty sure those lifetime Machinima contracts would not be enforceable. Especially if they are getting teenagers to sign.

Linear Zoetrope
Nov 28, 2011

A hero must cook
Other than Freeman's Mind, the one I'm most familiar with is Unit Lost. Which, again, comes off a little whiny and silly at times, but it's bound to sound like that when you're getting hosed by a company. Basically, unless you're a huge channel you get no support. And the best part is they signed the contract that didn't say "in perpetuity" (because who the gently caress signs a probably illegal contract for forever?) and when they tried to pull out Machnima flat out told them "we're not releasing people from contracts at this time."

e: Though I doubt it's just Machinima. I've heard horror stories about That Guy With the Glasses Too who are apparently better to work for and nice people and all, but make fucktarded management decisions and refuse to do basic things like give their content providers basic tools to increase the average quality of content on their network. As well as having horrible release scheduling (I've heard tales of releases getting delayed for weeks) I think internet video businesses in general just have no idea what they're doing.

Linear Zoetrope fucked around with this message at 23:31 on Oct 10, 2013

Ride The Gravitron
May 2, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

Lance Streetman posted:

Awhile back it was discovered that Machinima signed people on using contracts that basically said all video content produced by that person, forever, belonged to Machinima and that they could not host videos without pimping Machinima or sign onto another service while signed onto Machinima (and machinima contracts were binding, non-negotiable, and lasted forever). This was all hidden in the middle of a bunch of legalese, so most people couldn't figure this out even if they read the full contract. Think the contracts directors used to force actors to sign in the early days of film, and you've basically got the machinima contracts.

Ed: Here's an article about it. http://www.dallasobserver.com/2013-01-10/news/rage-against-the-machinima/full/

Basically, they're getting video creators in their late teens and early twenties to sign contracts which effectively bar them from making any content across any form of media without Machinima's sponsership and ads, for the rest of their life.


I'd just upload a lot obscene porn and plaster Machinima's name all over it.

Lunethex
Feb 4, 2013

Me llamo Sarah Brandolino, the eighth Castilian of this magnificent marriage.

Lance Streetman posted:

Awhile back it was discovered that Machinima signed people on using contracts that basically said all video content produced by that person, forever, belonged to Machinima and that they could not host videos without pimping Machinima or sign onto another service while signed onto Machinima (and machinima contracts were binding, non-negotiable, and lasted forever). This was all hidden in the middle of a bunch of legalese, so most people couldn't figure this out even if they read the full contract. Think the contracts directors used to force actors to sign in the early days of film, and you've basically got the machinima contracts.

Ed: Here's an article about it. http://www.dallasobserver.com/2013-01-10/news/rage-against-the-machinima/full/

Basically, they're getting video creators in their late teens and early twenties to sign contracts which effectively bar them from making any content across any form of media without Machinima's sponsership and ads, for the rest of their life.

This reminds me of something (I don't remember it very well) where a company (I believe a game dev) said that if you want to play their game you have to agree to a TOS etc and they just snuck in something like "you agree that your life is forfeit to us at all times and we own you etc" just to prove that nobody really reads those things. That the stuff about Machinima there is actually true...I am pretty shocked by it but they're too big to fail so nobody will care.

Also they make YouTube a lot of money.

Brainamp
Sep 4, 2011

More Zen than Zenyatta

I think that was a joke by a japanese dev and it was that they owned your soul if you agreed to the TOS.

Lunethex
Feb 4, 2013

Me llamo Sarah Brandolino, the eighth Castilian of this magnificent marriage.

Brainamp posted:

I think that was a joke by a japanese dev and it was that they owned your soul if you agreed to the TOS.

Yeah, it was soul my bad.

Here's the link.

Leal
Oct 2, 2009

steinrokkan posted:

The pictures are perhaps a bit blurrier than they need to be. M&B text is quite hideous, but if I were you, I'd still try to make the tiny notifications in the bottom left corner legible.

Your commentary is good, I don't really have anything else to add.

Also, would you consider making videos of some of the more interesting battles?

I'll see if its something that I'm doing wrong with resizing that is causing the quality to drop.

Lunethex posted:

Wow, someone's doing this :haw:

The pictures are fine to me, go about it how you want. Have you considered not using emoticons to denote speakers in dialogue though? I think it'd be a bit better to have mugshots.

This mod was the reason I spent over 300 hours at M&B: Warband. So my questions are a few and without being too spoilerific. Are you going to write a little narrative surrounding this? Are you really going to forgo archers? (Every PoP player will think of what you could get in this game if you were about archers, including me :smugbert:)

e. (post below reminded me)

I'm in a bit of a rush so I forgot to say, can you do videos? On top of that, did you/could you increase the troop count by modifying the config file? The battles, and in fact the overworld travel, are all made infinitely better by the lineup of tracks they have in this game, especially the stuff by Lind Erebros. For all interesting or new battles I'd recommend videos. I wouldn't say this is a spoiler but there are random events where great heroes of legend or something come around and wreak havoc on the land and you fight gigantic armies as a result. They always have their own theme, so videos there would definitely be a plus.

I'll try making some avatars for talking characters. As for making videos I'll try that out, I never recorded videos before though. It can help in cases where I missed a screenshot and I wont have to worry about hitting my screenshot key during a battle.

I'll do a second update soon enough trying these things out.

Lance Streetman
Feb 20, 2011

A parfait is a dessert, but it is also the French word for perfect.

Lunethex posted:

I am pretty shocked by it but they're too big to fail so nobody will care.

Also they make YouTube a lot of money.

I wouldn't be too sure about that first part, since a lot of people got really loving upset with Machinima when this broke and a lot of their contracted creators sought legal help in getting rid of their contracts. They're no longer doing the "for life" thing last I heard, and allowed several contracted creators to get rid of their contracts. The contracts are still lovely and manipulative, but they got burned pretty badly by the backlash from this.

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013
Well since we're on the issue of YouTube bullshit, I've got a hosting/content question for you fine folks. I'm not really sure what route to take on it, so I figure I'd seek some outside advice on it. It's related to the hybrid LP of Star Wars: Shadows of the Empire Blind Sally mentioned a few posts up.

One of the videos we're uploading is a short 2-minute long humorous introductory video for the LP that parodies the standard Star Wars title crawl which lays out what the gimmick of the LP is about. It's got no gameplay footage or commentary over it, and honestly isn't all that important but I'd like to include it as a little bonus just to try and scrub as much of the :effort:-stink off our first VLP ever.

The problem is YouTube flagged it with ContentID because it uses the intro music from Star Wars, and I imagine DailyMotion, our other chosen video host will too. I paid for the music file I used in the video from iTunes, but I know that amounts to jack poo poo in the realm of internet copyright and what not. I'm also not sure if if I have a strong enough case that it's covered under fair use or parody/satire, but it did give me the option to acknowledge that I used it and let Sony Music Entertainment monetize the video with ads and links to purchase the song elsewhere.

So what I want to know is are there any hosting workarounds or alternatives available to me (outside of do-it-yourself hosting), or is it just a case of "don't do it, you idiot" and leave it out of the LP.

I'm just wondering what my options are here.

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!

nine-gear crow posted:

I'm just wondering what my options are here.
Youtube doesn't pull videos for that stuff anymore unless the publisher specifically requests it. What they'll do is force ads on and give the ad impressions to the content owner. Just warn people about it on the link to click and you're probably fine. I'd say if it's a 'bonus' video and is not part of your mainline LP content this is perfectly acceptable, and honestly it's perfectly acceptable in the mainline LP as well after the first episode or two, anyway. You're putting in hours of work and an ad impression lasts like 10 seconds tops while being unskippable. Even if your average video is 10 minutes that is loving NOTHING compared to the ad space you'll have to watch to consume media on real TV.

Alternately, you could do Gamerstube. :v: Nobody thinks a lot of the management there, but on the up side, they're so disorganized that they'll probably never get around to flagging 3rd party content!

Coolguye fucked around with this message at 00:58 on Oct 11, 2013

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013
Oh, cool. Thanks. I'll look into Gamerstube, and if that doesn't work I'll just do the ads thing then. Thanks again.

ChorpSaway
Oct 9, 2012

ChorpSaway posted:

GBS > E/N > I think I’m in love with a bird. (Let’s Play Hatoful Boyfriend)


So outside of the comments from jonjonaug, was there anything else particularly egregious or off about this? Hoping to get a few more opinions on it.

Arsonist Daria
Feb 27, 2011

Requiescat in pace.

nine-gear crow posted:

Oh, cool. Thanks. I'll look into Gamerstube, and if that doesn't work I'll just do the ads thing then. Thanks again.

Don't worry about the ads, seriously. If anyone hates ads that much they've got something to block them.

ThCawdor
Apr 23, 2010

Blind Sally posted:

Hey. Been working on a hybrid LP with Nine-Gear Crow. This is our first VLP, so feedback would be greatly appreciated.

It's a Star Wars: Shadows Of The Empire LP with a gimmick. I don't want to reveal all our content before the LP goes live, but here's our introduction:

http://lpix.org/sslptest/index.php?id=15914

Here's a direct link to the video:



What we're really after is feedback on the video. How are the levels?, is the quality alright?, would you watch an entire LP with the two us?, etc.

This is a bit late, but you guys have done everything this particular game deserves. I'm really looking forward to seeing this!

Kinu Nishimura
Apr 24, 2008

SICK LOOT!

ChorpSaway posted:

So outside of the comments from jonjonaug, was there anything else particularly egregious or off about this? Hoping to get a few more opinions on it.

Your character's hokey name aside, no, your formatting and what have you are perfectly fine. You're good to go.

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!

Lumberjack Bonanza posted:

Don't worry about the ads, seriously. If anyone hates ads that much they've got something to block them.

For real. People need to get the gently caress over ads on their free on-demand entertainment, or at the very least they can block them and stop raising a fuss.

1stGear
Jan 16, 2010

Here's to the new us.
To Stalingrad and Back! Let's Play Unity of Command



Unity of Command is a simple operational-level WWII wargame developed by indie studio 2x2 Games and released nearly a year ago. On release, the game was highly praised for how incredibly accessible it is for a wargame. It has few complex mechanics and the emphasis is on broad strategic planning and effective use of your resources rather than mucking about with spreadsheets and nitpicky details. Some grognards consider it more of a puzzle game than a true wargame but the game's systems and AI are still deep enough to provide satisfying play and it doesn't cost $100.

UoC initially covered a thin slice of the war, specifically the Stalingrad campaign from 1942 to '43 from both the Axis and Soviet perspectives with a handful of hypothetical scenarios. The Red Turn DLC added a '43-'45 campaign focused on the Soviet drive to Berlin while an upcoming DLC will detail the initial German invasion in '41. I intend to cover all of the currently available scenarios in chronological order and providing some real historical context to the battles I'll be fighting. I am purely an amateur historian so if any more educated goons want to jump in, feel free!


http://lpix.org/sslptest/index.php?id=15926

Known issues:

Got a little lazy with screenshotting and missed some important bits.
Don't have the historical context bits.
Should probably spread the mechanic explanations out a bit more. I'll probably ameliorate that by covering the smaller Crimea scenario first in the thread.
For some reason the Hungarian part of the Hungarian-German comparison didn't crop, not a big deal since I'll be redoing this scenario anyway.
I played like poo poo. :negative:

ElTipejoLoco
Feb 27, 2013

Let me fix your avisynth scripts! It'll only take me a couple horus.
Hey, I wanted to get some opinions on how to best update my recording hardware. I've been using Razer Moray+ up until now, and I'm not really very knowledgeable when it comes to pick and choosing audio devices.
The main reason I got these earphone-mic-combo-set was just because it came with interchangeable plugs that allow connection to three different kinds of devices, anyway...

I've gotten or seen recommendations for Turtle Beach Headsets, a couple of the different kinds of Blue Microphones, and the Samson C01UCW. I don't really know what the pros and cons between them ultimately are aside from price and that the standalone microphones are apparently also suited for podcasts according to some places.

I'm also a little worried that my real issue might just be incorrect settings chosen in Windows/Realtek HD Audio Manager or just the audio drivers, since the same microphone apparently sounds completely different on two different computers and can become intolerable on one when it's apparently using the same exact settings as the other. I'm hoping this issue might factor less into a USB-based microphone, but I don't know if that's the case.

kalonZombie
May 24, 2010

D&D 3.5 Book of Erotic Fantasy
I've been using the Blue Snowball since about May or June. I really like it, it's nice and sensitive and gives a good, clear sound. However it IS a stand mic, so it's a lot more sensitive than a headset would be. Easy enough fixes in audacity, but you just have to be wary about squeaky chairs or bumped desks.

Leal
Oct 2, 2009
Alright here is test update 2, I'm having issues narrating over videos. Either I'm way too drat quiet or I turn up my mic audio and there is this constant white noise. I could edit it, but the white noise comes around whenever I talk. I'll work on that some other time. As for the screenshots, I'm downsizing them from 1920x1080 to 1024x576. Is there a better way I could be doing this? I know keeping it at 1920x1080 will break some tables. Anyways:



http://lpix.org/sslptest/index.php?id=15927

I'm going to stop highlighting whatever choices I make cause the green highlighting makes it harder to see the words. Is 100x100 good enough for character portraits?

Turtlicious
Sep 17, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Leal posted:

Alright here is test update 2, I'm having issues narrating over videos. Either I'm way too drat quiet or I turn up my mic audio and there is this constant white noise. I could edit it, but the white noise comes around whenever I talk. I'll work on that some other time. As for the screenshots, I'm downsizing them from 1920x1080 to 1024x576. Is there a better way I could be doing this? I know keeping it at 1920x1080 will break some tables. Anyways:



http://lpix.org/sslptest/index.php?id=15927

I'm going to stop highlighting whatever choices I make cause the green highlighting makes it harder to see the words. Is 100x100 good enough for character portraits?

I personally would strip out the first screens you have where you show the two or three options, and just replace it with a line of text or something. While the conversation stuff, I'd just start with them saying something ala those 100x100 avatars. It looks pretty awesome though, and I'm super stoked for this one.

Cheez
Apr 29, 2013

Someone doesn't like a shitty gimmick I like?

:siren:
TIME FOR ME TO WHINE ABOUT IT!
:siren:

Jsor posted:

machinima and friends

None of these people would even exist if Google hadn't hosed over the initial vision for YouTube, anyway. In its earlier, independant days, the "You" in YouTube actually meant something. Now it's just lovely internet TV and networks within networks within networks. Interesting content is overpowered by "popular" content.

Arsonist Daria
Feb 27, 2011

Requiescat in pace.

Cheez posted:

None of these people would even exist if Google hadn't hosed over the initial vision for YouTube, anyway. In its earlier, independant days, the "You" in YouTube actually meant something. Now it's just lovely internet TV and networks within networks within networks. Interesting content is overpowered by "popular" content.

So it's like television. :v:

I don't really think Google is to blame for this; it was basically an inevitability. Be thankful there's still a lot of good, interesting content despite the inherent popularity contest that comes with being a huge, community-driven website.

Cheez
Apr 29, 2013

Someone doesn't like a shitty gimmick I like?

:siren:
TIME FOR ME TO WHINE ABOUT IT!
:siren:
Well, in the end, it was Google who put the money down and shifted the focus, and started treating it like more than simple video hosting. They're the ones who stripped away all the original features in favor of their broken, biased search and their (relatively) pointlessly invisible like/dislike system. Only the newest, hottest videos for your eyes! What's that? Want to find something old or less well known? TOO BAD! There's no option for that!

unfair
Oct 6, 2012
In my opinion Google is also directly responsible for the whole "use a partner for gaming videos" push, because they own part of Machinima. Unless they've sold it by now it's a rather incestuous way to cover their asses legally and make extra money (~11%) on top of the 45% cut Google normally takes from ads.

frozentreasure
Nov 13, 2012

~

kalonZombie posted:

I've been using the Blue Snowball since about May or June. I really like it, it's nice and sensitive and gives a good, clear sound. However it IS a stand mic, so it's a lot more sensitive than a headset would be. Easy enough fixes in audacity, but you just have to be wary about squeaky chairs or bumped desks.

Adjusting sensitivity and getting a shock mount can take care of those; in any case, the Snowball and Yeti are about the best USB mics you can get for quite a relatively low price.

Gum Drop
Aug 17, 2013

Competitive player of a dead game.

Cheez posted:

and their (relatively) pointlessly invisible like/dislike system.

Wasn't it that Friday - a video with like 99% dislikes - was considered the most liked video on Youtube for a while, because they didn't even bother to differentiate between likes and dislikes?

Cheez
Apr 29, 2013

Someone doesn't like a shitty gimmick I like?

:siren:
TIME FOR ME TO WHINE ABOUT IT!
:siren:

infinitycanvas posted:

Wasn't it that Friday - a video with like 99% dislikes - was considered the most liked video on Youtube for a while, because they didn't even bother to differentiate between likes and dislikes?

I don't even know. All I know is that the old Youtube let me search for videos, see the 5 star rating system rating for each video result, show me the number of views, didn't prioritize money makers, and I could sort both ways, and with all categories. Youtube's current advanced search seems to arbitrarily include or exclude many of their video categories or search options on a whim.

Lance Streetman
Feb 20, 2011

A parfait is a dessert, but it is also the French word for perfect.
Youtube is a crappy video hosting site that wants to be a social media site, and the only redeeming thing about them is how easy it is to make an account and upload poo poo. Although with all the recent google accounts forced integration, they're making it less accessible to have an existing account, let alone make a new one. They've been confused about what they want to be for awhile now and every attempt they make to "improve" stuff only breaks things further.

What's sad is that they're still infinitely better than all the competition.

Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro
Fun Shoe
Sturgeon's Law has been long in effect before Google acquired YouTube. It's outright dumb in terms of resources required and effort and money and simple business sense to give the same amount of feature and attention to every single video. Curation is outright required if you have 20,000 videos uploaded every minute or whatever the statistic is.

They removed star ratings because most videos were rated 5 or 1, so it was in-effect a binary system. They hid tags from the public view because users spammed their way to the top by uploading random unrelated videos with the same tags as that day's top 15 videos, and they made video responses uploader-approved for the same reason.

Building a search engine that returns relevant results for such a large corpus is a Herculean task, so I'm not surprised that it's not the best, especially when they can't pull terms directly from a video like they can do with a web page. The YouTube search engine is a completely different codebase from Google's search engine.

Jewel
May 2, 2009

Suspicious Dish posted:

Sturgeon's Law has been long in effect before Google acquired YouTube. It's outright dumb in terms of resources required and effort and money and simple business sense to give the same amount of feature and attention to every single video. Curation is outright required if you have 20,000 videos uploaded every minute or whatever the statistic is.

They removed star ratings because most videos were rated 5 or 1, so it was in-effect a binary system. They hid tags from the public view because users spammed their way to the top by uploading random unrelated videos with the same tags as that day's top 15 videos, and they made video responses uploader-approved for the same reason.

Building a search engine that returns relevant results for such a large corpus is a Herculean task, so I'm not surprised that it's not the best, especially when they can't pull terms directly from a video like they can do with a web page. The YouTube search engine is a completely different codebase from Google's search engine.

The problem arises when I can literally search an exact title, in quotes, and find something else appears above it, or that rarely that video doesn't even show at all!

JT Jag
Aug 30, 2009

#1 Jaguars Sunk Cost Fallacy-Haver

Jewel posted:

The problem arises when I can literally search an exact title, in quotes, and find something else appears above it, or that rarely that video doesn't even show at all!
Well, you know, you're searching by relevancy, so this one video with ten million hits that has half the words in your search (in the wrong order) is just more relevant than the video that exactly matches your query with just 5,000 hits. It's the free market at work.

Gum Drop
Aug 17, 2013

Competitive player of a dead game.

JT Jag posted:

Well, you know, you're searching by relevancy, so this one video with ten million hits that has half the words in your search (in the wrong order) is just more relevant than the video that exactly matches your query with just 5,000 hits. It's the free market at work.

The idea is that when you search something in quotes you intend to search exclusively for when those words appear in that order.

Lance Streetman
Feb 20, 2011

A parfait is a dessert, but it is also the French word for perfect.

infinitycanvas posted:

The idea is that when you search something in quotes you intend to search exclusively for when those words appear in that order.

Great. Explain to me how I can type in the name of a video series, get the videos in the series, add the episode number, and get an entirely different set of unrelated results.

Cheez
Apr 29, 2013

Someone doesn't like a shitty gimmick I like?

:siren:
TIME FOR ME TO WHINE ABOUT IT!
:siren:
I can't find obscure videos I enjoy that aren't popular because of Youtube's search absolutely requiring you to go big or go home. It's all "most recent" or "highest rating" or "highest views" and the rest. I'd have found it in no time if I could sort by least views.

Deformed Church
May 12, 2012

5'5", IQ 81


Leal posted:

Alright here is test update 2, I'm having issues narrating over videos. Either I'm way too drat quiet or I turn up my mic audio and there is this constant white noise. I could edit it, but the white noise comes around whenever I talk. I'll work on that some other time. As for the screenshots, I'm downsizing them from 1920x1080 to 1024x576. Is there a better way I could be doing this? I know keeping it at 1920x1080 will break some tables. Anyways:



http://lpix.org/sslptest/index.php?id=15927

I'm going to stop highlighting whatever choices I make cause the green highlighting makes it harder to see the words. Is 100x100 good enough for character portraits?

Just to check on the white noise, are you using audacity's noise removal? I have to turn my mic way up and boost the final audio a bit, and it's definitely not perfect but the noise removal made it at least good enough that no-one decided to say anything mean.

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Dyslexiactic
Mar 1, 2011

I'm angry and I want to express it somehow.
:sun:
Hey friends, just dropping in with a test post. The OP of which can be found here. To summarize (if you just want to see videos), however...






I have addition OP plans (character lists and the like), but wanted to get feedback first.

e: currently fixing my dumbass inability to sample the right forum background colour.

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