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TimberJoe
Oct 24, 2010

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Ninpo posted:

Besides didn't the Sun print outright lies about fans pissing on dead bodies and other loving abominations?

That's the one

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TimberJoe
Oct 24, 2010

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I genuinely thought I would never see this and I certainly never thought that the report would be this damning. I just always assumed that it would be the same cycle of cover-up and recrimination

TimberJoe
Oct 24, 2010

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http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/

TimberJoe
Oct 24, 2010

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pissy smelliott posted:

McKenzie has apologised before and explicitly said afterwards that he wasn't sorry so why should this one be any different, kill him imo

yeah he basically said "haha I'm not sorry at all"

TimberJoe
Oct 24, 2010

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from the guardian liveblog


http://hillsborough.independent.gov.uk/repository/SYP000000020001.html

quote:

The crush continued not abating, I remember a policeman jumping onto the caging and perimeter wall and shouting to get back and making pushing gestures at the crowd. This was impossible ... At this point the man on my right hand side, I didn't know him, was obviously unconscious, I couldn't see too clearly as it was even difficult to move your head. Anyway this man had his head backwards but I was unable to move to assist him ...

The next thing I realised was I fell backwards from the pressure at the front. I was trapped from about waist deep with arms and legs and bodies. I looked to my right where the man who was unconscious was and saw he was lying on his back,his eyes wide open with just the whites of his eyes showing, his eyes having rolled backwards. I thought the man was dead at this point and I leant over, pinched his nose, tilted his head back and tried to give him the kiss of life. After a while I lent up, slapped him across the face to try and get some response, but was unable to do so. I remember looking around and behind me and I could see there were about seven policemen standing around not doing anything ...I screamed at one policeman to help me saying "Get this guy out, I think he's dead." ...

I have heard stories in the press but I can say I saw nothing which I would class as a criminal offence before or after the crush ...My opinion is that I realise what's been said in the press about the reasons for opening the gate but that situation should never have arrived if people had been organised into queues and there was better policing outside the ground.

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TimberJoe
Oct 24, 2010

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quote:



The statement by PC Maxwell Groome was one of "those most extensively altered" the report found.

The following material was deleted from his original account:"The decision to replace Chief Superintendent Mole before the semi-final needs to come under some scrutiny. This man had many years experience of policing big matches at Hillsborough.

Compared to other semi-finals held at Hillsborough, the organisation of this event was poor, as has been the case for most of the season. Too little notice had been taken of current trends and football intelligence and too much reliance has been placed upon previous information held.

Too many non-operational supervisory officers were in charge of important and critical parts of the football ground.

The deployment of officers around the crucial time needs to come under scrutiny, too many were sat around in the gymnasium whilst others were rushed off their feet."

He also wrote originally: "It was noticeable that the only supervisory officers above the rank of Inspector on the pitch were Chief Inspectors Beal and Sumner and Superintendent Greenwood. Certain supervisory officers were conspicuous by their absence. It was utter chaos."

This was changed to: "On the pitch were Chief Inspectors Beal and Sumner and Superintendent Greenwood."

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