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Washout
Jun 27, 2003

"Your toy soldiers are not pigmented to my scrupulous standards. As a result, you are not worthy of my time. Good day sir"
:siren:If you own Legendary Edition you can put your LE player code into steam and then get this for :10bux: :siren:


(props to Midge and Corte for OP)

NEW RACES
Finally there is no real excuse to not play this version instead of fumbbl. Adding Chaos Dwarves which should have been in from the beginning frankly. They are one of the best teams in the game, playing tournaments without them is kind of shameful.

The other two new races, Underworld and Khorne Daemons are both gimmick teams. Khorne was developed under powered I think. They should at least been made as a B class team, instead they are apparently bottom tier, I lost my first game I tried with them against an AI norse team. I've only ever lost against the AI in the past with gobbos and halflings.

What Is Bloodbowl?
Blood Bowl is an ultra violent team sport, based on the Warhammer fantasy world. Build up your team with Orcs, Elves, Dwarfs and many other fantasy creatures before jumping into the bloodiest arenas!

Where can I find goons to play with?
Let's Play thread: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3303607&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=1.
IRC - #tgbloodbowl on irc.synirc.org Pretty much required!
Steam Community - http://steamcommunity.com/groups/bloodgoonz

What systems can I play it on?
As far as I am aware CE is PC only.

Minimum PC system requirements:
* OS: WINDOWS XP SP2 / VISTA SP1 / WINDOWS 7
* Processor: PENTIUM4 2.4GHZ / ATHLONXP 2400+
* 3D Graphics card: 128 MB 100% DirectX® 9 and shaders 2.0 compatible (NVIDIA GEFORCE 6600 / ATI RADEON X700 or higher) (note: Intel, SIS and Via/S3G graphics controllers not supported)
* RAM Memory: 1 GB (XP) / 2 GB (VISTA)
* Hard disk space: 3 GB
* Sound card: DirectX® 9 COMPATIBLE


Game Types
Short of it is; PC is the only way to play and don't bother playing against the AI or pubbies. Especially the AI will make you into a terrible player.


Multiplayer
This game has TERRIBLE ai. Just join IRC and come play with goons.

The Teams
There is a decent covering of the teams on Cyanides website:
http://www.bloodbowl-game.com/index.php?rub=races-home-bble

Download The Rules!
http://www.bloodbowl-game.com/index.php?rub=medias-rulebook


-------------------------------------------------
***General FAQ***

:siren:If you have no clue what you are doing we can help but please READ THE RULES FIRST:siren:

The first thing I recommend is to come talk to us on IRC. We have people playing all hours of the day. I personally run and IRC bot that holds information on teams, skills and game concepts for quick reference.

This game looks interesting but hard.
It is! the basics can be a bit challenging, but after you play a few games the concepts become second nature. Blood Bowl is a lot like a football version of Chess. You can move your pieces once per turn, most actions require a roll of some kind, failing can end a turn prematurely. (this is called a Turnover) That means there's an element of risk management that makes the games exciting. You can never be 100% sure of success if you need to roll the dice for something. This uncertainty and luck based gameplay is addictive and fun to watch, most Blood Bowl fans become so enamoured with the game they never stop playing.

I don't know what the gently caress I'm doing? Can you build me a team please?
There is so much range in this game for teams there really aren't any general pointers to give. You can play Blood bowl based upon your personal style. Do you want to hit things? Do you want to pass the ball and score? Do you want a tough team that can take punishment and dish it out as well? Do you like breasts? This game can cater to your tastes. Join us on IRC and we will give you pointers or you can spectate matches until you find something you enjoy.

I want to try the game out, but I don't want to spend any money, yet.
There is a FREE version of Blood Bowl that uses Java called FUMBBL. It's a great tool to watch, play and learn about the game. There are goons on IRC that would be happy to play with you, or help you learn and install the Javabowl client.

What is Fumbll?
Basically Fumbbl is a java-based version of BB. The main version uses Living Rule book ver 4 (LRB4) with a beta using LRB6 in the works. The Beta is nearly done and has many, many players and teams.
Pros
+More teams and gimmicks like a stunty league
+Free
+Older, more involved community including many serious tabletop players/testers
+Lower system requirements
+Disconnections get punished more severely
+Supports spectating (very important)
+can pick back up disconnected games

What about the PC version?
Cyanide tried to make a Bloodbowl-esque game called Chaos League. It was pretty terrible and Games Workshop (who own the franchise) sued them over it. Part of the settlement involved Cyanide making a PROPER game using the license. Even though there have been bugs and a few problems with the game, (they aren't the best game company) there is more good than bad with the game. The Chaos Edition allows players to pick 23 of the 24 teams and play in online leagues, as well as single player games vs the AI. How hard this AI is depends on who you ask. I personally see it as decent for teaching beginners to learn how not to make mistakes.

Portable versions?
They released this game for the PSP and DS. I own the PSP version and it's decent, but the DS version is terrible and you shouldn't waste your time on it.

I like tabletop games, should I even bother?
Blood Bowl can be played just like any Miniatures game, in fact, I say it's even cheaper than other tabletop games because the number of models you need to make a team is much smaller. (Usually 16 players on a team) Before I'd get out my wallet I would check and see if anyone in your area even plays it. Even if you can't play locally there is more than enough gaming online to suit your needs.

Ok I want to try the game out, where should I start?
First, if you haven't already, watch the Goon made Let play run by cKnoor. http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3303607.

He does a great job showing a team starting from scratch. If you like what you see and want to actually try the game out. Come meet us on IRC.

One last thing
One thing I will mention, a Blood Bowl player has a gaming life similar to a fat kid looking for a prom date. The more you try to get lucky the better your chances, but do expect disappointment. Your best laid plans will fail, you opponent will get lucky, your best player will die on one bad roll. The best coaches are the ones who get back up again and keep playing.

Cyanide Leagues!

The oldest cyanide goon league running is one I created when the first version of the game was released. The Giant Goon League Pass:fuckgoons is still going, just make a team and then apply. We'll accept any team that applies so don't worry about joining with a new team or anything this is just the league for loving around with, it's not a tournament league or anything.

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3386122 is the old first post from way back when.

HOW TO QUIT A LEAGUE AND JOIN THIS ONE:To quit an existing league and join this one go to the leagues tab, then pick the league your team is in from the dropdown at the top of the screen. Then in the lower left dropdown pick your team and then quit league to the right of the dropdown there. Once that is done search for "Giant Goon League" pick your now free team and apply, then join IRC for instant approval, or go to bed, you probably need the sleep.

IRC - #tgbloodbowl on irc.synirc.org

Here are a bunch of starting formations for newbies. These do not apply to funky (terrible) teams like vamps or ogres.

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3511321&pagenumber=6&perpage=40#post409925229

Washout fucked around with this message at 22:45 on Nov 25, 2012

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Washout
Jun 27, 2003

"Your toy soldiers are not pigmented to my scrupulous standards. As a result, you are not worthy of my time. Good day sir"
My own personal highly opinionated team descriptions. :toot:

ELF TEAMS
Normal elf stats are 6-8 movement 3 strength 4 agility and 7-8 armor.

There are four different elf teams. Of these Dark Elves are generally considered the best since they have high AV and really good positional players. The others are roughly equal in power I'd say.

High Elves:420:
High elves are known for having a great passing game since they have really good catchers and the best throwers of any team. They also have decent armor value allowing them to be much more durable then pro or wood elves. They still fall short of being able to do real bash play since they don't have any strength skill access anywhere in the entire team, and only the two blitzers start with block.

Dark Elves:whip:
Generally considered the best elf team Dark elves also don't play as much elf ball (passing plays) as the other three teams on account of not having either catchers or throwers to start, and also being generally slower. Instead they have a fantastic running game, which is really more reliable anyway. They bash the best of any elf team, getting 4 blitzers to start with block and then two fantastic witch elves, who are commonly considered some of the best single players in the game.

"Pro" Elves:gay:
Pro elves are the generic elves of the game. Originally in the first edition of bb back before there were different races of elves. They are known for having the best passing game of any team owing to the fantastic catchers. Their blitzers are also astounding starting with Block and Side Step. Of course the big downfall of this team is the low AV which means that you will always have injured players and will be spending money on replacements regularly. Also known for being the least able to throw a punch.

Wood Elves:awesome:
Wood Elves have a great running game and good passing, and also get to field a treeman. The biggest draw of the team however are the Wardancers. Who are guaranteed to ruin your day a few times in any given match. Widely considered the best single positional player in the game. The main problem with the team, as with pro elves is they can't take a hit. And they rely way too much on the wardancers for clutch plays.

HUMAN TEAMS
Normal human stats are 6 move 3 str 3 agi and 7-8 armor.

Humans:)
Vanilla humans can do everything, and do it pretty darn well. They get an Ogre, they get 4 good blitzers with block, they have catchers and throwers to pull off clutch plays. the only big disadvantage they have is that they don't have any real specialists. So they will tend to be outclassed at higher team values. In the begining and middle team values is where they tend to excel. Positioning is everything with humans, and will make or break your game.

Norse:black101:
Norse are a good juxtaposition of low armor and good punching. In trade for the low armor values nearly all the players start with block and they get a few high strength positionals. Norse excel at mowing down the opposing team and pushing them off the field altogether and then score at the end when there's nothing of the enemy team left. Norse games have a tendency to be either or affairs because as easily as you can steamroll the opponent the same can happen in return.

Amazons:shlick:
Generally called zons they excel at the running game. The biggest draw is that they have four starting players with a combination of block and dodge, the only players in the game that start with both of these skills. It's a fantastic advantage that evaporates when playing against higher value teams or dwarves. The big gimmick is that they all start with dodge. They do not have the same capacity for big plays like the elves do since overall agility is lower.

MUTATION TEAMS
I'm grouping these together because even though the teams vary wildly, they all get access to mutations skills, these teams have players that can grow extra heads, arms, claws, etc.

Skaven:jihad:
Otherwise known as rats, Skaven have an amazing running game with the fastest positional players in the game. Gutter runners (gunners) are mv 9 str 2 agi 4 little balls of bullshit. Exceptionally fun and one of the top teams at any team value. They do not hit hard, but with some lucky rolls you can build some specific killer players.

Chaos:fuckoff:
One of the teams that gets mutation access without having to roll a double on a skill-up chaos is a very late blooming team. They don't have any skills to speak of to start with. And only two positions, beastmen and chaos warriors. But you can build them to do nearly anything. Stupid pubbies in open leagues however only build them to destroy your team. More of a bashing team then anything else however.

Nurgle:cthulhu:
A disease ridden chaos team, nurgle swing away from passing and ball handling and towards a much more defensive slow bashing playstyle. In trade for being much more durable and hard to hit they lose some beastmen and gain rotters, which are terrible.

Chaos Dwarves:bang:
Hated by goons everywhere because your team is still half hitler, chaos dwarves are another top tier team. The big draw is 6 dwarves to start with eventual mutuation access and the surprisingly quick and strong bull centaurs. They even have token goblins for the other team to feel good about killing while you murder the rest of their team.

Underworld:can:
A few Skaven, a few goblins, a troll and full access to mutation skills. They are fairly slow and half the team is str 2 putting you at a big disadvantage for punching. A very unique playstyle that I don't understand at all. They have some crazy gimmicks like big hand two arm goblins that are very effective however.

OTHER TEAMS
These few teams just don't fit in any other category.

Orcs:orks:
Orcs are possibly the best newbie team. They have heavy bash but also the ability to pull out a passing play if things are desperate. Also extremely durable with high armor values across the board. Very forgiving on account of the 4 high strength black orcs.

Lizardmen:frog:
Lizards have a great draw, 6 high strength big lizards, a huge lizard to keep them company and then a lot of other lizards to actually get the ball and run with it. A very unique team with the high and low strength values of 4 and 2 with nothing in the middle. Not very great until middle and late team values however.

Khorne Daemons:sympathy:
Being a chaos team you would think they get mutation skills, but no they do not. A solid bottom rank team because they start with a ton of frenzy and not a single guy with block. The only saving grace is they have the best big guy in the entire game. Most "pro" players will tell you not to take a big guy in any team however since the drawback they all come with are so severely bad. For funhavers only.

Dwarves:hitler:
Dwarves have terrible ball handling ability with the compromise being the best bashing in the game. Goons will hate you if you play them though, because they are a team of little hitlers. A typical dwarf game is kicking to you and stalling your advance leaving the score at 0-0 in the first half, then in the second half they grind down the field and then score once in the final turn of the game. They do this every single game and playing dwarves is always the same.


UNDEAD TEAMS
Pretty much the only thing these teams have in common is theme. They all play very differently from one another despite sharing a lot of the same types of players. Ranging from very fast with excellent ball ability to very slow with non existent ball ability.

Necromantic:spooky:
Another top tier team at all team values, necro have a running game almost as good as skaven. In trade they get a lot more punching power. The biggest stars on the team are the super fast super killer werewolves. A bit similar to wardancers you have to make sure they do not dominate the play.

Undead:ghost:
Undeads big draw are the hulking mummies. One of the few teams with more then one str 5 player they are a good bash team with a good running game, provided you can keep your ghouls protected.

Khemri:sax:
Where undead are somewhat european flavored with mummies ghouls etc, Khemri are egyptian themed and expand to 4 mummies at the expense of vulnerability and no ball handling ability. Known for fumbling the ball endlessly until the opposing team picks it up they nevertheless have a good niche against other slow defensive teams.

Vampires:drac:
Vampires have the most bullshit ability in the game, and amazing stats. To compensate for that they have the worst drawback and aside from the 5 vampires the rest of the team is terrible. Personally my favorite team they are capable of stealing the ball from cages so protected a wardancer would be afraid to go near it. On the other hand they do decide to nip off the field for a snack and leave you hanging with horrible regularity.

STUNTY TEAMS
These are generally bottom tier teams, very hard to win a game with, although it does happen if you get lucky. Player skill can only take you so far and with these teams it's not enough to win.

Halflings:chef:
Other teams love to play against halflings, since when you get tired of beating up the little guys you can knock over the treemen and try to foul them to death. The only "proper" way to play them is to chop your team value down to 600 or 800 (very low) and then use your huge piles of money to hire star players and steal your opponents rerolls. Every time a halfling levels you fire him, and if a tree gets level 3 without block you do the same thing.

Goblins:catdrugs:
Cheating and dirty tricks are the only way to win with goblins. Chainsaws, pogo sticks, and high explosives are the key to victory. Too bad they malfunction and kill the goblin holding them most of the time, sometimes you will go on a murder spree and kill half the opposing team.

Ogres:btroll:
Comprised of mostly snotlings, which make halflings look buff, Ogre teams also surprisingly get some ogres. Not that it will help when each turn on average one won't do anything but stare stupidly and if you get unlucky half the team sits there. Surprisingly popular with goons because we share the same appetite, girth, and smell.

Washout fucked around with this message at 07:27 on Oct 13, 2012

Washout
Jun 27, 2003

"Your toy soldiers are not pigmented to my scrupulous standards. As a result, you are not worthy of my time. Good day sir"
Not that I can see, but I need to find more goons to play with. Guys if you are getting into this game again please join us on IRC and we can get you into the goon league no problem. Just need to rebuild the community back up a bit to what it was like in the LE days.

goatface posted:

Stats I can find are:


They look... bad to be honest. Pretty rubbish linos, under strengthed for bashing, zero innate block or dodge for defence, REALLY expensive big guy. No mutations? Not sure if that's right. They'll probably be ok on offence, but on defence they look really weak.

edit - What would you even start with?

Letters should be av8 and everyone should get mutations on doubles, then they might at least be decent.

Washout fucked around with this message at 23:42 on Oct 11, 2012

Washout
Jun 27, 2003

"Your toy soldiers are not pigmented to my scrupulous standards. As a result, you are not worthy of my time. Good day sir"

SilentD posted:

Went to #tgbloodbowl thar is nobody thar?

whaaatt the room is packed right now. irc.synirc.org

Washout
Jun 27, 2003

"Your toy soldiers are not pigmented to my scrupulous standards. As a result, you are not worthy of my time. Good day sir"

CmdrSmirnoff posted:

With Chaos Dwarves in the game now, am I given the green light to play Dwarves in the GGL again?

Dwarves own y'all.

I play dwarves in the GGL so I'll play you whenever. All the dwarf haters are lying I've been playing even normal dwarves against goons.

Washout
Jun 27, 2003

"Your toy soldiers are not pigmented to my scrupulous standards. As a result, you are not worthy of my time. Good day sir"

Thern posted:

So are any of the new teams newbie friendly. I really should get back into this game.

Newbie teams are Orcs, Amazons, Norse, Skaven, Dwarves, and Chaos Dwarves. A lot of people say humans are newbie but I think they are pretty advanced.

Washout
Jun 27, 2003

"Your toy soldiers are not pigmented to my scrupulous standards. As a result, you are not worthy of my time. Good day sir"

Gort posted:

Anyone else have a problem with the entire nature of the team progression and leagues in this game? Some teams start out solid (like say, dwarfs with their block on basically everybody) but don't progress very well, while some teams progress to be horrifically good.

Then you've got the fact that individual players progress based on a dice roll, where some results are wildly better than others (EG: +1 strength versus a normal skill).

Isn't this just a death sentence for any kind of casual multiplayer play?

No because it all works out in the end. Our goon community is self policing so people can't just take entire chaos teams of claw or noone will play against you.

Washout
Jun 27, 2003

"Your toy soldiers are not pigmented to my scrupulous standards. As a result, you are not worthy of my time. Good day sir"

Goofa posted:

Picked this up today and it's been lots of fun.

Though I can't manage to not get wrecked by the singleplayer AI.

Quit playing against the singleplayer AI, it will actually make you worse when you play against goons. Just come to the irc channel and we can play some test games and really teach you to play.

The other reason you could be losing is if you are playing one of the bad team, or even if you are just playing a team that is hard for a newbie.

Washout fucked around with this message at 00:29 on Oct 13, 2012

Washout
Jun 27, 2003

"Your toy soldiers are not pigmented to my scrupulous standards. As a result, you are not worthy of my time. Good day sir"
Lets continue this dumb what are the best single players in blood bowl conversation we had on IRC.

1. Wardancer (leap blodge and jesus they are good)
2. Witch Elf (Frenzy dodge jump up what?)
3. Gutter Runner (mv 9 and dodge and mutation access cripes!)
4. Werewolf (mv 8 claw yeow)
5. Bull Centaur (str 4 and fast and tough as poo poo)

I guess it says something that the best players are almost all agi 4?

Washout fucked around with this message at 08:20 on Oct 13, 2012

Washout
Jun 27, 2003

"Your toy soldiers are not pigmented to my scrupulous standards. As a result, you are not worthy of my time. Good day sir"

The Orange Mage posted:

I bought Legendary on sale last year and couldn't get into it...I think I'll give it a try and drop in IRC sometime today, after picking up the new edition of course.

I can't even play this game anymore unless I'm playing goons. And a ton of us old vets are getting back into it now.

Washout
Jun 27, 2003

"Your toy soldiers are not pigmented to my scrupulous standards. As a result, you are not worthy of my time. Good day sir"
This is a vanity post about my special snowflake players.

This guy is my newest, he is only level 2 but looks like he is going places. If I get a double for a mutation I have no idea what to give him.


People try and kill the poo poo out of this dude, gets fouled all the time for some strange reason.


My vamp team actually has two guys like this. Two turn touch downs are really easy with my vamp team, provided I get lucky but since all my vamps have pro it's not too bad. I've been trying for a str 5 vamp for a long time, even made a second vamp team but no luck.


I actually have to hide this guy and only use him to blitz with, he gets the poo poo kicked out of himself otherwise.


This guy is super fun, although I regretted not getting dodge on him once I rolled the +str so he would live longer.

Washout
Jun 27, 2003

"Your toy soldiers are not pigmented to my scrupulous standards. As a result, you are not worthy of my time. Good day sir"
currently streaming orcs vs chaos

http://www.twitch.tv/washoutr6

edit: well I will be once we start the game again

edit2 and nevermind apparently I dropped and the other player decided not to try again.

Washout fucked around with this message at 05:58 on Oct 15, 2012

Washout
Jun 27, 2003

"Your toy soldiers are not pigmented to my scrupulous standards. As a result, you are not worthy of my time. Good day sir"

Jack Trades posted:

There's a World Cup singleplayer option now too but I got an impression that you, cool cats, think that SP is beneath you.

The singleplayer is so dumb they didn't even program any foresight into it other then cages. If they would have to do a block then blitz to get to the ball they usually won't.

Now streaming chaos dwarves vs orcs.

http://www.twitch.tv/washoutr6

edit: game over, paper made some pretty funny plays. But lost 0-1 because he wouldn't protect his receiver.

Washout fucked around with this message at 17:24 on Oct 15, 2012

Washout
Jun 27, 2003

"Your toy soldiers are not pigmented to my scrupulous standards. As a result, you are not worthy of my time. Good day sir"
I think if the ai is all on easy it will be more likely to score. But if you are playing any of the decent a or b teams it's hard for the ai to even score. It can be a challenge if you play any of the bottom tier teams on easy though, or at least it makes you work for your td's.

Here is a good replay of mine, skaven vs. ubermikes highelves. On the last turn you can see how I do a one turn td with a mv9 player. Although I gently caress it up and blow the catch.

Setup starts at the 1:32 mark. High scoring long game.

http://www.twitch.tv/washoutr6/b/335747557

Washout
Jun 27, 2003

"Your toy soldiers are not pigmented to my scrupulous standards. As a result, you are not worthy of my time. Good day sir"

The Orange Mage posted:

Again, totally wanting in on this (and wanting some goon[s] to gimme the lowdown since the tutorial teaches you absolutely gently caress-all) but...


...so who do I need to poke to figure out why I'm banned from a channel I've never been to on a server I haven't connected to in over a year?

You can direct message me at washoutlaptop for a game too. I'm on a lot.

Washout
Jun 27, 2003

"Your toy soldiers are not pigmented to my scrupulous standards. As a result, you are not worthy of my time. Good day sir"

uPen posted:

The bull centaur barely qualifies as being animated. The animation for him kicking off is literally just the centaur walking into the square with the ball using his normal walking animation, then the ball leaves the square.

They got the hats right, and the hats get bigger the more they level, that is all that matters.

Washout
Jun 27, 2003

"Your toy soldiers are not pigmented to my scrupulous standards. As a result, you are not worthy of my time. Good day sir"
That was my 3rd rape game, I still had no apo and my mvp's from both previous games were dead or had to be fired. I'd collected a grand total of 2 spp from the single cas the team was able to make over the course of 3 games. After a 3-0 loss to underworld the team deserved it.

Playing Khorne against goons who are aware and don't let you randomly surf half the opposing team is really difficult.

Later in the day my Skaven killed the hell out of a Norse team and Boxwine resigned in the 7th turn after 4 firable cas/death and deleted that team as well.

Washout fucked around with this message at 16:14 on Oct 21, 2012

Washout
Jun 27, 2003

"Your toy soldiers are not pigmented to my scrupulous standards. As a result, you are not worthy of my time. Good day sir"
I totally understand man, the previous game I'd played was where my khorne got destroyed and I deleted that team. Bloodbowl happens.

Washout
Jun 27, 2003

"Your toy soldiers are not pigmented to my scrupulous standards. As a result, you are not worthy of my time. Good day sir"
Well I've now started an underworld team and they are at least able to score touchdowns. But the first game played was against Khemri and a two goblins died. With my final turn getting a lucky extra reroll when I had none for the one turn touchdown attempt. But the troll rolled 1 to eat the goblin, and then on the reroll I rolled another one and he was eaten on the final turn.

Played a few more games against halflings and a linerat was killed by a treeman, and in the same game he threw a halfling at me and killed another goblin. It ended up being a tied first game, in the rematch though the cas came out strong against the halflings and by the end of the game there were around 10 halflings in the cas box, and only my troll had mighty blow but he spent most of the game sleeping once he was KOed by a treeman in the 5th turn.

Even after all these deaths Underworld remains a much more fun team since they can at least move around and handle the ball.

Washout
Jun 27, 2003

"Your toy soldiers are not pigmented to my scrupulous standards. As a result, you are not worthy of my time. Good day sir"

Internet Kraken posted:

They actually added a Khorne team? I think I liked it better when people in IRC joked about there being one with no hands on almost all the players.

The team does not look terrible on paper. 4 demons with GAS access and two more with GS makes them look like a more agility oriented chaos team. But unlike chaos they have zero help getting to the 1500 tv range where they start being able to put up a fight.

Washout
Jun 27, 2003

"Your toy soldiers are not pigmented to my scrupulous standards. As a result, you are not worthy of my time. Good day sir"
When underworld get some skills they are supposedly a really good team. Hopefully when they hit 1500 tv they will start to shine. They will probably start to be alright around 1250 even.

Washout
Jun 27, 2003

"Your toy soldiers are not pigmented to my scrupulous standards. As a result, you are not worthy of my time. Good day sir"
I find that these happen more often the bigger the roster is and older your team. My vamps with the 16 man roster and 2k team value seem to get it a lot.

Washout
Jun 27, 2003

"Your toy soldiers are not pigmented to my scrupulous standards. As a result, you are not worthy of my time. Good day sir"
Gunners are so good because they get mutation access. So on any double they can get horns and they become awesome blitzers. Also because of the crazy mv and agi they are scoring machines.

I don't see mummies as being very high on the list since they don't get general access, and they take a very long time to gather spp. Getting one to level 4 is a long slog. If even one mummy gets block you are doing really well but it's pretty rare.

Tagichatn posted:

Also pubbies are just as terrible at this game as any other. I hadn't played in a year and a half and stomped a guy playing Chaos Dwarves.
As in many other games pubs are so bad once you become halfway decent they are zero challenge. Sure you might lose if you fly into a terrible match-up against one of the more competent players but for the most part I just stick to playing goons because it's so much more fun.

Washout
Jun 27, 2003

"Your toy soldiers are not pigmented to my scrupulous standards. As a result, you are not worthy of my time. Good day sir"
Do you ever see people with wrestle leap witch elves? You should play my DE sometimes, while I don't have any like that they are still amazing.

Washout
Jun 27, 2003

"Your toy soldiers are not pigmented to my scrupulous standards. As a result, you are not worthy of my time. Good day sir"

uPen posted:

MA10, sprint, sure feet, strip ball, wrestle, leap, You can't run, you cannot hide.
The other thing with gunners are they're only 80k and you get 4 of them, allowing you to make each one incredibly specialized in ruining the other player's day in a specific fashion.

I usually give two wrestle, two block, and make two different kinds of blitzers and two different kinds of ball getters. They always end up being unique though because of the varying levels that they end up with a double and then a mutation.

Washout
Jun 27, 2003

"Your toy soldiers are not pigmented to my scrupulous standards. As a result, you are not worthy of my time. Good day sir"
Everyone please play against my Chaos Dwarves, I have a hard time getting games with them.

Washout
Jun 27, 2003

"Your toy soldiers are not pigmented to my scrupulous standards. As a result, you are not worthy of my time. Good day sir"
5 cas 3 ko before I conceded on turn 10. 2 dead dorfs and 1 dead hob.

Washout
Jun 27, 2003

"Your toy soldiers are not pigmented to my scrupulous standards. As a result, you are not worthy of my time. Good day sir"
Not all of us are as angry at singleplayer, it's not completely terrible. And it can even be a challenge if you play one of the Stunty teams like goblins, halflings, or ogres. That said however blitz gives you a bunch of extra stuff that makes the game even easier and I'd bet that you could go undefeated in blitz mode even playing one of the terrible teams. I'd just advise playing classic mode with a Stunty on easy if you just want to gently caress around. (the cpu is so afraid of losing the ball that they won't ever score on hard mode).

I even got bored playing underworld after going undefeated for the first two seasons. But if you have too much trouble with a normal stunty team give underworld or Khorne a try. If you have trouble winning against the computer with UW or Khorne then you should come into IRC for advice.

Washout
Jun 27, 2003

"Your toy soldiers are not pigmented to my scrupulous standards. As a result, you are not worthy of my time. Good day sir"

Leperflesh posted:

When are we going to have a new goon tournament?

I'm not volunteering to run it, mind you, I just want someone else to do all the work so I can play games.

I'd run one, and even do a LP of my games, except I'm moving to Hawaii in like 4 days so :whelp:.

Washout
Jun 27, 2003

"Your toy soldiers are not pigmented to my scrupulous standards. As a result, you are not worthy of my time. Good day sir"
So many special snowflake players on my teams these days. My rats rolled a +ag gunner now in the same game my Rat Ogre got block. This team is going to break my heart.

Washout
Jun 27, 2003

"Your toy soldiers are not pigmented to my scrupulous standards. As a result, you are not worthy of my time. Good day sir"
Thanks a lot kraken, goblin horns are small and stupid looking.

Washout
Jun 27, 2003

"Your toy soldiers are not pigmented to my scrupulous standards. As a result, you are not worthy of my time. Good day sir"

Jack Trades posted:

What's wrong with your graphics? Are you playing Blood Bowl on your microwave or something?

On a laptop yes. But the real reason I keep everything on lowest is because the pitch is much easier to see when everything is turned down or off. for example the annoying flames go away in the lovely chaos pitch, and on the snow field there is more brown and it's a flat white instead of all that glare.

If I could just remove those two fields as playing surfaces I'd turn all the graphics back up.

Washout
Jun 27, 2003

"Your toy soldiers are not pigmented to my scrupulous standards. As a result, you are not worthy of my time. Good day sir"
I doubt you have to full disable it, but you probably have to turn prompt on. It's like that for all skills.

Washout
Jun 27, 2003

"Your toy soldiers are not pigmented to my scrupulous standards. As a result, you are not worthy of my time. Good day sir"
Visa versa if you have a bunch of koed players and a deep bench sometimes the field will fill with your deep bench guys and then the recovered guys will be in your endzone, those can then be placed on the field and you'll have more then 11 players.

Washout
Jun 27, 2003

"Your toy soldiers are not pigmented to my scrupulous standards. As a result, you are not worthy of my time. Good day sir"
The team you are really looking for is chaos pact, they handle the ball much better then chaos. But you can only play it in fumbbl. But if you are looking for a more bashy team then chaos that handles the ball just as well then chaos dwarves are pretty much it. Lizards probably score a lot easier then chaos but are not more bashy, just different.

Washout
Jun 27, 2003

"Your toy soldiers are not pigmented to my scrupulous standards. As a result, you are not worthy of my time. Good day sir"

Wolfy posted:

I just bought this last night and I am really bad. I really can't move the ball up the field at all. The one time I did, a fan riot knocked out the other team and only one of my players.

Remember order of operations, it's probably the most important thing.

1. Free moves (no dodges required) and stand up fallen players.
2. Mark the ball. (stand a guy next to it if possible).
3. Two dice blocks on guys with block, dodge with elves.
4. Get the ball, 1 dice blocks, 2 dice blocks on guys without block etc.
5. 1 dice blocks without block generally not even worth it, end turn.

Washout
Jun 27, 2003

"Your toy soldiers are not pigmented to my scrupulous standards. As a result, you are not worthy of my time. Good day sir"
No, you need to know the rules even more thoroughly before you play fumbbl.

Washout
Jun 27, 2003

"Your toy soldiers are not pigmented to my scrupulous standards. As a result, you are not worthy of my time. Good day sir"

goatface posted:

6. -3 DB with a snot to surf a chaos warrior? EVERY TIME.

Yes, well of course you would do that. Some things are just pro click every time.

Washout
Jun 27, 2003

"Your toy soldiers are not pigmented to my scrupulous standards. As a result, you are not worthy of my time. Good day sir"

SilentD posted:

Speaking of dark elves, has anybody ever had any luck using witch elves?

Funhaver option seems to be to give one wrestle/strip/ss/leap etc.

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Washout
Jun 27, 2003

"Your toy soldiers are not pigmented to my scrupulous standards. As a result, you are not worthy of my time. Good day sir"

JohnnyBigPotatoes posted:

Finally won my first game! It was against a halfling team and to be quite honest it was pretty unsubtle: I killed 2 of them and seriously injured another 3 or 4 but hey, a win's a win!

I also drew 1 - 1 against another human team who, on paper were quite a bit better than me, but I managed to hold them during the second half. poo poo was tense.

Are you playing against people or the AI? If you are just playing the AI it's time to jump over and start playing real people before all the bad ai habits turn you into a terrible player.

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