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RoughDraft2.0 posted:I just don't think there is anything underneath. I think people like the idea of a full-length Fett movie, but the reality of it is going to be far different. He has no personality to speak of, and coloring in the blank spots in his character just strips him of the mystique that made him popular in the first place. Well, they could intentionally make the movie awful as a comment on how dumb it is to really want a Boba Fett-movie.
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api call girl posted:As evidenced by the multitude of material surrounding Boba Fett already, they don't actually have to intentionally make it awful. You can make a moderately entertaining and intellectually inoffensive movie out of pretty much anything. I was merely commenting on the readings of the prequel trilogy from earlier. It would seem like making a movie deliberately awful as a gently caress you to audiences is now a thing that people should be admired for, so I say they should make the Boba Fett movie the biggest troll humanly possible.
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Feb 6, 2013 22:54
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Feb 12, 2013 18:20
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effectual posted:He was already tempted in RotJ and rejected it. What Maxwell Lord said. The best thing (so to speak) about the Emperor is that he just doesn't give a poo poo. If he were subtle he wouldn't have his underlings build a planet-destroying machine called Death Star. It's that he's completely trusting the seductive power of the Dark Side, to him it's like "You will become evil and you will love it".
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Feb 18, 2013 10:32
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Alchenar posted:We also know from Empire that Vader considers the Emperor to be so powerful that the only way he can possibly be defeated is with him and Luke working together. The fool, clearly the Emperor is more powerful than Darth Maul and Darth Maul kicked two Jedi's asses rather easily!
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Feb 26, 2013 13:31
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At the beginning of ANH and ESB Stormtroopers shoot up Rebels pretty good.
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Mar 11, 2013 19:32
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Wubbles posted:So, why was Luke just handed a fighter ship and made a commander like a minute after he met with the Rebels? Additionally to what others have said, Luke also helped rescuing their Princess and at the very least proved on screen that he was able to shoot down TIE Fighters just as well as Han Solo. quote:Only when Vader is on screen or coming on screen. And? He doesn't do anything in those scenes, or are you implying his mere presence is giving the Stormtroopers +1 in Aiming?
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Mar 14, 2013 11:21
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Alchenar posted:That wasn't really a trap because they were under his control in the first place. Having the hyperdrive disabled was just a fallback option (that doesn't really make sense because he could just have had the entire ship disabled but that would make it difficult for the heroes to escape so don't ask why). If they enter the ship he'd have them cooped up in one place instead of them bouncing around in Cloud City.
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Mar 14, 2013 15:55
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The MSJ posted:I always preferred the explanation from the X-Wing and TIE Fighter games. The rebel crafts were all general purpose vehicles they had to use for multiple functions, not all of which they were build for (my favourite must be their method of attacking destroyers and such by crashing an A-Wing into the bridge). The Empire on the other hand can afford to make a variety of different vehicles each with a specific purpose. But this becomes a problem when the all-purpose vehicle outperforms all the specialized vehicles in their respective fields.
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Mar 15, 2013 16:14
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God drat, EU.
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penismightier posted:The second, bigger Death Star is the ultimate expression of that extended universe poo poo - when you look at the "stats" oh no it's superhuge and balls powerful, but on screen - it's in loving space, you can't tell how big it is! Come on! What I like about the second Death Star is it's incompleteness. It's the villain from the first movie who has come back for revenge, but now he has scars and that makes him super-hardcore.
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Mar 16, 2013 13:30
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stawk Archer posted:Jabba's palace and the sand pit, even now, fit in perfectly with the first two movies and are really a slap in the face to the EU and Star Wars mania: Leia getting turned out, fanfiction favorite Boba Fett dies like a chump, the way life was cheap and brutish for almost everyone, and Luke's Jedi Mind Tricks and wisdom fall way short of his decision to simply go balls out and kill everyone. This statement strikes me as a bit anachronistic because Boba Fett dying like a chump somehow contributed to making him a fan favorite, didn't it? And I'm not even going to get into Leia winding up in a metal bikini, if that was supposed to be a slap in the face to the EU then the EU sure liked it.
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Mar 16, 2013 21:04
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Alchenar posted:Yeah, freezing people is A Thing That Happens, presumably there's specialised equipment for it that's based on the same technology and they're jury rigging the Bespin facility to do it. Why does it have to be A Thing That Happens, though? Part of the fun to that scene was that "Freeze that guy so we can get him to the Emperor" was such an outlandish idea, and the EU just had to go and make "freeze guys" a common thing nobody really bats an eye at.
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Mar 21, 2013 18:47
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Gyges posted:At least Boba Fett is basically just a dude in body armor bounty hunting through the galaxy. I don't personally give a poo poo about him, but you at least don't really need to worry about recasting or really conflicting with his handful of lines so far in the entire franchise. Maybe that used to be true, but thanks to the prequels we know that Boba Fett is Temuera Morrison.
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Apr 19, 2013 13:17
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Hot Sexy Jupiter posted:Wasn't there an EU plot (from a comic I think) with a device that could blow up the Universe? Well, did it?
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May 22, 2013 16:06
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...of SCIENCE! posted:If the new movies suck then people will blame it all on Lucas no matter how much or little he actually did, if it's good then people can say we lucked out and Abrams et al managed to overcome Lucas' influence and besides he was hardly involved anyways. Yeah no, I'm pretty sure they'd blame Disney and Abrams. You must have missed the countless Star Wars lensflare jokes.
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Oct 12, 2013 09:59
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Was there ever a Star Wars/Alien crossover? My heart tells me there must have been one, but I'm too scared to look.
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Jan 7, 2014 14:36
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Falukorv posted:drat slow ones too. The prequels had air transports and faster ground transport vehicles, AT-AT look like a downgrade from what the Republic had. But that's probably not a fair comparison when the prequels were made 30 years after the original trilogy. Are the prequels' depiction of warfare any more realistic, though? I am getting a weird mixture of Is it realistic vs. Is it visually exciting-complaints here.
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Jan 7, 2014 16:03
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Kingtheninja posted:I'd need someone else to confirm it, but I actually remember reading Lucas made a declaration of sorts about there being no wookiee jedi. I really wanted to make one in SWG and always thought it was a cool idea, especially given how intelligent wookiees were supposed to be. But yeah, I tried looking up info on the subject and I think there was one (in a comic?) but after that Lucas was like "NOPE!". Hbomberguy posted:Lucas is racist. Fixed.
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Jan 11, 2014 18:02
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But the people who claim Darth Vader is the literal incarnation of the Force are the bumbling idiots who get nothing right, I thought? How come the Jedi, who according to this reading manage to misunderstand the basics of what makes up their own source of belief, are right about this one thing?
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Jan 13, 2014 08:15
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The MSJ posted:Latino Review posted something amusing. Apparently someone did not like Bobba Fett's origin in the prequels, so the Bobba Fett movie is rumored to be about a guy who kills Bobba Fett at the beginning of the movie and then takes his costume and name. So wait, does that mean the guy in ROTJ wasn't the "real" Boba Fett, or that the guy in ROTJ survived and then gets killed? Not that it matters because the guy in ROTJ is a non-character.
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Jan 21, 2014 13:51
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Hbomberguy posted:Note how he barely made any changes to the prequels on their various re-releases, because he knows no-one is bizarrely obsessed with them like the originals. Why anyone wants to protect the sanctity of R2D2 poorly hiding behind some rocks I have no idea. Note how many of the changes in the OT lead to the screen being cluttered with CGI bullshit. I imagine Lucas sitting in front of a screen showing a random moment on Coruscant and shedding a single tear because he can't fit more poo poo into the scene.
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Jan 31, 2014 15:14
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Hbomberguy posted:Midichlorians are just a conduit that 'tells us about the Force', from the perspective of a really dumb Jedi Order. They're at most like an ultrasound. Eh, Midichlorians have been accurate enough to let the really dumb Jedi Order correctly identify
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Feb 3, 2014 16:36
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Hbomberguy posted:I think your post rebuts itself. Sorry, I just have a problem with the reading that midichlorians were introduced to further show how detached the Jedi were, because the thing they tried to prove with the midichlorians (i.e. the identity of their Neo) turned out to be true.
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Feb 3, 2014 17:21
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Disney should sell the rights to make Special Editions on an annual basis. Pay a million dollars and add in stupid poo poo as you see fit. I'd add in a smoldering stump of cables where Vader's glove is in that scene.
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Feb 18, 2014 16:07
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Benedick Cuckold posted:She's the queen of a planet within the jurisdiction of the Republic. Shmi is a slave on a world controlled by a foreign government. That should be enough for the casual viewer to discern that there are probably legal and practical difficulties in such a transaction taking place. Maybe Amidala didn't see the utility in paying a slave owner for his slave, given that he'd no doubt just use that money to buy another one, thus perpetuating the slave industry. She'd have personal reasons for wanting to see Shmi free, but in the end it wouldn't really solve anything. That's a hell of an inference for the audience to make about legal minutiae of the Republic, one that directly clashes with very basic emotions shown by the characters on screen.
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Apr 22, 2014 15:38
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That's still a far cry from the legal scenario Benedick Cuckold presents. It's one thing when characters present all this on screen and another thing entirely when a simple plot point remains unclear because characters supposedly did a seminar in interplanetary slave law and socio-political aspects of slavery off screen.
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Apr 22, 2014 16:31
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Yvonmukluk posted:Well Boba was an unaltered clone of Jango, and twins (nature's clones) are usually just as fertile as anybody else. Now why the regular troopers were left able to father offspring is a mystery. It's a bit outside their mission spec. Life finds a way!
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Apr 29, 2014 11:13
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Breakfast All Day posted:The prequels are good movies. They aren't good mimics of the themes and arcs of the OT, because by necessity they're about a huge rear end in a top hat and the group of people who were so dumb they enabled and empowered him. You're allowed to not like the prequels -- I wouldn't watch them more than once a decade. But it's baffling that everyone was surprised that Vader, famous for being a huge rear end in a top hat, was also an rear end in a top hat before he put on a mask and also insufferably whiny because he didn't yet have the leeway to kill people at will. Other movies have accomplished the miraculous feat of having an rear end in a top hat as their central character and still be watchable. Sometimes these assholes and the characters who enable them are even engaging and/or interesting. The argument in favor for the prequels seems to be that Anakin being a cringe-inducing whiner and everybody else is pants-on-head retarded shouldn't make you resent the movie because it was all done on purpose. That's just really really unsatisfying.
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May 8, 2014 10:51
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sassassin posted:You shouldn't really be resenting a movie in the first place. That tells us more about you than it does the films. English is not my first language, sorry. Can I dislike a movie?
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May 8, 2014 11:01
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:George Lucas might be omnipotent and trying to fool us. Do these P-Zombies run or do they shamble?
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TheBigBudgetSequel posted:One of the DVD sets came with the OT without SE additions on the b-side disc. People complain that it's terrible quality but actually it's a direct rip from the fairly excellent laserdiscs that came out before the Special Editions. So all I have to do now is invent a time machine and go back to when those DVD sets were still sold in stores. It could be done, I guess.
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Benedick Cuckold posted:See, this is the kind of thing I hear all the time which isn't really a problem in any meaningful sense, but really took off after the Plinkett reviews came out. I mean, really? The old movies had a poo poo load of establishing shots and shots of ships taking off and landing. It was a way to establish planetary environments and show off all the effects work the studio did. This isn't new, it isn't a problem, and I don't even think there's any difference between the prequels and the originals in this regard. Neo Rasa already replied to you but I just want to reiterate that it becomes a problem when these shots are used as infaltionary as they are used in the prequels. It's also a problem when there is a disconnect between the place shown in the establishing shot and the place the characters are in. Not for one minute did I buy that Qui Gonn and pals were running through the same streets that were shown in the Naboo Capital establishing shots, so what is that shot even there for?
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May 12, 2014 10:47
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:The crucial thing people miss about the 'sand' line is the part Padme says first, to prompt Anakin's response: "I love the water. We used to lie out on the sand and let the sun dry us." Anakin immediately praises the lack of sand on Naboo, completely ignoring that Padme was just talking about the sand on Naboo. Anakin is almost willfully overlooking the fact that Naboo has its own sand and, thus, its own 'sandpeople' - not only the poor of both nations but the workers 'overseas' who produce all the food and stuff they import. Padme, for her part, is blithely ignorant of the sand that supports her. I like this a lot, but I don't think such 'overseas' people who produce food and stuff exist on Naboo. If Naboo had a self-sustaining society the Trade federation wouldn't have been able to blockade them.
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Tender Bender posted:Arguing that the prequels suck should be the easiest thing ever but everyone who tries in this thread suffers some kind of aphasia and is unable to string together coherent thoughts. SMG is a sith lord. A Sith Looooord? Quickly, we must act! *walks calmly away*
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May 17, 2014 09:31
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In a shoking twist the new Star Wars movies will be prequels about how the Falcon was built.
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Benedick Cuckold posted:That had nothing to do with the fanlove for the character. Boba Fett always had some connection to the stromtroopers from the very earliest conception of the character. But you're right. Making it so that there were specifically a billion identical, factory-produced Boba Fetts in the prequels probably was an intentional reaction on Lucas's part to the fact that the fan base had latched on to a villainous non-character with three lines just because he was a "badass" with cool-looking armor. But not in the way that you think. Right, and plastering 
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Benedick Cuckold posted:Yes, marketing departments are a thing that exist. Great work, gumshoe. You mean like the time he got pointlessly shoe-horned into A New Hope? Oh wait, you just hand-waved that away and said it doesn't count, so I guess it doesn't count.
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He's holding the gun in front of him so nobody will see his paunch. Bonus trivia, "fett" is German for "fat".
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Neo Rasa posted:Han and R2-D2 are force sensitive right? Discuss. Big deal, I'm pretty sure every single character in the movies is force sensitive by now.
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