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Does Shay belong in this thread? http://shiroioji.livejournal.com/114944.html#cutid2 
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Benne posted:Out of all the stuff in these pictures, the pissbottles are what really get to me. How loving hard is it to walk to the bathroom for 30 seconds? Mental illness is a huge one right here. It's either OCD causing a fear of "dirty" bathrooms meaning they piss in bottles and dump them into the sink (the infamous Malodrax comes to mind) or major depression which means they do not have the motivation to do simple things like basic cleanliness or hygiene which comes natural to mentally healthy people. Then you factor in how people online find morbid interest in these people (like us in this thread) and suddenly they have attention they cannot get in real-life meaning they gladly flaunt their squalor unaware that we are not staring in amazement but rather fixed horror. You watch Hoarders and it's clear many of the people featured have some form of a depressive disorder be it Major Depressive Disorder or the depressive swing of Bipolar Disorder simply from their cadence and body language.
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Dec 2, 2012 04:32
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WebDog posted:I'd forgotten all of the standing water just inches above power outlets. Also Bunkmonkey apparently killed himself. Oh, did he? I saw someone in FYAD saying the same thing and I just assumed that they were joking. Well, he was going to die of some respiratory tract disease anyway!
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Dec 2, 2012 05:53
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The Monkey Man posted:Does Shay belong in this thread? Jesus Christ, those photos make me feel physically sick. How does that even happen? You can't turn your house into that just by being messy or lazy. You have to actively put in an effort to smear disgusting poo poo onto places I didn't even know you could smear poo poo on.
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Dec 2, 2012 06:22
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CorruptGuardian posted:http://youtu.be/aTXP_m8DuMg   Ugh, I wondered why I kept reading this thread and now I feel nasty just from watching that. I think I will go toilet brush the toilet now.
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Dec 2, 2012 06:37
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I keep hearing this reiterated: "I don't even know how a person gets to the point where..." I grew up in a crazy hoarder house (although, thank god, the poo poo monuments were kept to a bare minimum), and I have my own interpretation of the process that you are free to ignore or enjoy. There's a cascade of learned responses that become automatic. Anxiety, depression, denial, or addiction may contribute to the initial incident: for instance, the oven is broken, and an obstacle prevents you from fixing it immediately, so you eat microwave foods until microwaved foods seem normal and the oven is just a thing in the kitchen you never use. Then there's anxiety about getting the oven taken care of, and that anxiety inspires you to use the oven for something else... stashing dirty dishes, because anxiety about the oven has kept you out of the kitchen lest you be reminded, and now the sink is full of dirty dishes. Once this pattern is established (loss of use, compensation for loss of use, anxiety, compulsive behavior to redirect anxiety, a new pattern of behavior that eventually causes another loss of use), even the tiniest things can set off a hoarding incident. A mound of trash stands between you and the garbage can, but you have an empty pizza box in your hand; a normal person would, at the very least, climb the garbage mountain to dispose of the pizza box, but your brain has been carefully trained to follow that anxiety pathway, and now with a yawn it skips all the intermediary steps and tells you that this pizza box is not garbage, it goes in the Pizza Box Place, and once you have put it in the stack in the hallway where all the other pizza boxes are, the anxiety will be diminished and order will be restored. This is why, in so many hoarder houses, you'll see careful divisions of garbage, stacks of liquor bottles in one place and stacks of pop cans in another. Everything has its place. Then one day your toilet is clogged up, and you stand there with a wad of toilet paper in your hand, and your brain says: This toilet paper is not garbage, it goes in the Toilet Paper Place, and once you have put it in the stack on the bathroom floor where toilet paper will go from now on... The thought of fixing your toilet doesn't even occur to you. You poo poo in a trash can because that's where poo poo goes so you don't have to think about fixing the toilet and thereby undergo exponential anxiety; piss is harder to contain, but you have all these bottles, and as long as you put them in the Piss Bottle Place... Anyway I have nothing to say about all the anime figurines. That poo poo is wack.
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Dec 2, 2012 08:33
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Bad rear end Boutique posted:
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Whatev posted:Are you sure this dude is a slob and isn't just living in horrible abject poverty? It doesn't really look like he is contributing to the terribleness of his living space, it's just really really terrible to begin with and he can't really do much about it without a big wad of cash. Like, nothing there even looks remotely expensive, so you can't even say he's got misplaced priorities or something. I'd agree, if there wasn't a VERY thick layer of dust all over everything. I know what you mean, though. I'm a really, really clean person. I don't leave dishes in the sink for longer than an hour, or even a few minutes, and I periodically clean my entire house, moving furniture around and everything. I'm also one of those people that's really sensitive to mold- I cannot live in a house with black mold that's prevalent, or I get pneumonia, bronchitis, etc... But I once lived in a house that was IMPOSSIBLE to keep clean. The floor was just the wood that was leftover after the landlord ripped up the carpet. They didn't seal it at all, so mold seeped out between the floorboards. The whole house had this... rising mold smell. You couldn't get rid of it, you couldn't keep ahead of it. All of your clothes, all of your books, everything smelled like mold. I've had to freeze things, wash them in vinegar and baking soda... and I've still lost a lot of things to that house. But it was such a nightmare because I'M CLEAN and really social and was totally embarrassed to have anyone over to our house, even though I was vacuuming every day, and periodically did all the dishes my roommates made because I couldn't stand them sitting in the sink for more than an hour. When a house is already a piece of poo poo, it is REALLY hard to make it look clean, and any amount of mess makes it look 100X worse. God, leaving that place was the best thing ever.
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Dec 2, 2012 09:09
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Haymaker_Betty posted:I'd agree, if there wasn't a VERY thick layer of dust all over everything. It doesn't really look especially dusty. That floppy in the foreground is just that stupid beige color all computer stuff used to be. Least he has got sheets and garbage bags and no food stuff laying around. Speaking of mold, here's a pic from some huge fuckin idiot goon who wanted advice on how to heat his basement pool/kill his idiot friends and self more expediently 
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Dec 2, 2012 09:28
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/\/\/\ You're missing all the wonderful shots of the exposed wiring directly above the pool. The Monkey Man posted:Does Shay belong in this thread? My favourite post from a month later: quote:My toilet wouldn't flush properly just now, as I am about to leave the house for my morning class. So I open the tank, and what do I find? A loving 20 oz Dr. Pepper bottle of urine in my toilet tank! WILL IT EVER END???? AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!
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Dec 2, 2012 09:35
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Whatev posted:
So many hazards. First there is the mold, then the concrete floor the can slip and hurt themselves on, the Christmas lights haphazardly strewn across the room, the light over the room and can possibly electrocute everyone in the pool, the chandelier that looks like its is going to fall any second and very easy to hit one's head on, the beams that one can hit their head against, and surely there are other household things that would spell certain death for those Goons.
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Dec 2, 2012 09:44
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LateToTheParty posted:and surely there are other household things that would spell certain death for those Goons.
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Dec 2, 2012 09:48
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elise the great posted:stuff That's why I don't like shows like Hoarders, etc. It's clear these people are suffering from severe mental issues. The last thing they need is to be showcased like animals and laughed at. But I have been keeping up with this thread, so I can't really take a moral high-ground. Thanks for this insight, though. It's (morbidly) interesting to try to understand how this kinda thing happens.
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Dec 2, 2012 16:20
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Whatev posted:Are you sure this dude is a slob and isn't just living in horrible abject poverty? It doesn't really look like he is contributing to the terribleness of his living space, it's just really really terrible to begin with and he can't really do much about it without a big wad of cash. Like, nothing there even looks remotely expensive, so you can't even say he's got misplaced priorities or something. There appears to be a small pile of garbage in the foreground, barely in the frame. That being said, I think you're right in that this is much more just someone who's broke and living in a lovely place than a disgusting goon. I mean, there aren't even any anime figures.
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Dec 2, 2012 16:38
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Benne posted:Out of all the stuff in these pictures, the pissbottles are what really get to me. How loving hard is it to walk to the bathroom for 30 seconds? I don't know, you should ask this guy
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Dec 2, 2012 17:58
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cowboythreespeech posted:That's why I don't like shows like Hoarders, etc. It's clear these people are suffering from severe mental issues. The last thing they need is to be showcased like animals and laughed at. My parents are hoarders, and at times there is nothing I'd like more than to see them publicly ridiculed because of all the poo poo they've put me through (often literally), but you're right. It's like going to an addict's house and throwing out all their supply and saying they're cured; it does absolutely nothing. Sure, their home is clean for a few days, but there are a lot of underlying issues and usually other compulsive behaviors that need to be dealt with.
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Dec 2, 2012 18:46
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Yeah, the saddest part is when the hoarders have kids, a la that goon that was mentioned earlier. Thankfully he cleaned up his act and got his kid back.  I'd be interested in reading more stories about living with/being raised by/being a hoarder. Is this an appropriate thread for that kinda thing?
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Dec 2, 2012 19:14
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Citizen Z posted:There appears to be a small pile of garbage in the foreground, barely in the frame. That being said, I think you're right in that this is much more just someone who's broke and living in a lovely place than a disgusting goon. I mean, there aren't even any anime figures. Which to a point makes sense. Its not like this person is going to be very proud of their situation, so a general untidiness and a lack of frequent cleaning are not illogical.
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Dec 2, 2012 19:18
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What is with the framed duckling/bunny?
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Dec 2, 2012 19:50
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cowboythreespeech posted:Yeah, the saddest part is when the hoarders have kids, a la that goon that was mentioned earlier. Thankfully he cleaned up his act and got his kid back. Maybe a bunch of us could get together and do an ask/tell? I'd start one myself, but I have a hard time being objective about it all.
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Dec 2, 2012 19:52
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Fried Chicken posted:What is with the framed duckling/bunny? It's obviously super awesome.
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Dec 2, 2012 20:17
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The Aphasian posted:I think it's just the vapor barrier over the dirt. He may have tried to shape it into rudimentary furniture, like the saddest sand sculpture. Yeah, that's a vapor barrier, it's there to keep ground moisture from rising into the house. The stuff under it is probably just dirt, sometimes in crawlspaces they just carve out the spots that need to be carved out and leave the rest. Either that or he was actually trying to make headroom by digging out extra dirt. I know far too much about crawlspaces, ask me about rat poop showers and almost dying in one. or don't because that would be a derail
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Dec 2, 2012 20:41
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AuntBuck posted:Maybe a bunch of us could get together and do an ask/tell? I'd start one myself, but I have a hard time being objective about it all. http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3520508 No need to be objective, I think. Hope y'all enjoy it! edit: anything you'd like me to add (or subtract?) from the OP, please PM me! ...Or just post it in that thread.
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Dec 2, 2012 20:52
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Bad rear end Boutique posted:Mental illness is a hell of a drug. I love how he spent all that money on computers but lives in a loving crawlspace.
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Dec 2, 2012 22:08
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platedlizard posted:I love how he spent all that money on computers but lives in a loving crawlspace. It looks like the warden's office in a Guatemalan POW camp.
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Dec 2, 2012 22:52
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platedlizard posted:I love how he spent all that money on computers but lives in a loving crawlspace. If you're talking about Bungmonkey, I'd bet all of those were from dumpster diving. Here have some more hovels and nerd poverty:     
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Dec 2, 2012 23:00
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Is that a suit jacket hanging in the 6th picture? At least the guy has aspirations.
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Dec 2, 2012 23:06
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When I think of Anonymous/Lulzsec, I picture the last photo.
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My grandmother (on my dad's side) and one of my uncles on that side are/were hoarders. My dad has tendencies toward that sort of thing as well, but keeps it in check... people generally think I do also, but it's mostly a result of living in one room of my house while I gut and remodel the rest of it, working alone. I've brought dozens of truckloads of demolition/remodeling debris to the dump over the last few months due to this, it's hard, slow work. That last photo is what I picture when I think of reddit (plus what cowboythreespeech listed.) Also, I wonder if one of the other hovel residents in that photo collection realizes those pipes are insulated with asbestos and he's living and sleeping right next to it and apparently disturbing it by climbing over it every time he leaves his nest. Hello, mesothelioma, my old friend...
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Dec 2, 2012 23:34
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I can't see this picture anymore without my eyes immediately going to the floor.
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Heath posted:The most unsettling thing about these photos is that there's always a very clear epicenter of poo poo, a spot the owner occupies/occupied, like the eye of a filthy hurricane. And you know they all think of it secretly as where the magic happens
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fork bomb posted:I can't see this picture anymore without my eyes immediately going to the floor. Oh god DAMMIT.
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fork bomb posted:I can't see this picture anymore without my eyes immediately going to the floor. He just spilled a drink on the floor, right guys? Right? 
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Dec 3, 2012 00:08
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WoodrowSkillson posted:Oh god DAMMIT. What am I looking at?
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Dec 3, 2012 00:09
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That DICK! posted:What am I looking at? Think about why he might like having privacy in his computer lair, and what would drip on the floor from a sitting position, under the keyboard.
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Dec 3, 2012 00:09
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WoodrowSkillson posted:Think about why he might like having privacy in his
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fork bomb posted:I can't see this picture anymore without my eyes immediately going to the floor. You know, I was kinda thinking that this was a slightly cool thing. Sorta like a sensory deprivation chamber, but with a gaming computer. Then you had to go and point that out. Goddamnit. 
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Dec 3, 2012 00:18
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That DICK! posted:What am I looking at? What leaks out of your username?
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My innocent mind thought it was sweat stains because the first thing that came to mind was "jesus it must get really hot and gross in there after 10 minutes with the door closed." Then I thought about it for a second and yeah that's totally jizz.
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