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WastedJoker posted:The Twist might work if Krypton is intact but Zod ends up destroying it in the movie? "Better to reign in Hell than to serve in Heaven."
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May 3, 2013 15:20
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So, basically, Transformers?
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May 3, 2013 16:22
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:The best superhero movies are Hancock, Hulk, The Twilight Saga: Twilight, Halloween 2007, Starcrash, Superman Returns, and Gamera: Guardian of the Universe. (Special mention - Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance). Wouldn't Dr. Manhattan move Watchmen solidly from the latter to the former?
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May 3, 2013 20:19
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Goreld posted:Re: the first Superman movie, you also have to consider the music. It's fairly interesting that you essentially picked out a body of work by John Williams from the biggest cultural event blockbusters in the 70s and from an entire different school of thought on incidental film scoring. Zimmer music tends to be pretty memorable when intended to be, though. The Rock? And Nolan Batman films also have memorable themes if nothing quite as iconic as Batman '89.
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May 16, 2013 19:40
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Is that Zod in shackles? Did I miss a memo?
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May 22, 2013 16:28
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Darko posted:I heard Zimmer mostly ghostwrote that score and the theme, but wasn't supposed to because he was contracted to do something else. It's hard to tell with his collaborations. The best theme from Pirates is in the third one, anyway. Out of curiosity, which do you think that is? I actually hugely prefer Up is Down to pretty much any bit of any other track out of the 3rd one, but Wheel of Fortune from the second one might be my favorite overall. VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE fucked around with this message at 14:43 on Jun 11, 2013 |
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Jun 11, 2013 14:33
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The_Rob posted:Edit: like I dunno are people really so cynical that superman can't be the most ernest motherfucker around? It's really important. Superman and Cap are two of the most earnest characters around. I'll never not watch them. I'm extremely tired of the try-hard faux-casual studious cynicism that permeates basically everything. It's just as condescending as old-school Supes can be patronizing, but personally I'm ready for the needle to tilt the other way. (See also: Star Trek Into Darkness) VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE fucked around with this message at 12:48 on Jun 12, 2013 |
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Jun 12, 2013 12:44
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bobkatt013 posted:I thought Returns entire point was that gritty cynicism is pointless and you should embrace hope and wonder? It's kind of hard to pick that message out of that mess, I don't know.
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Jun 12, 2013 14:34
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bobkatt013 posted:I thought that was the whole point of Lois in that film. At the beginning she was cynical in regards to Superman, but by the end she has embraced his return and saw that the world did need him and what he represents. I honestly don't think that 1-2 is borne out or supported by anything else in the movie, excepting the shuttle/jet rescue. So, great, ok, if we have Superman we would have 100% less Challengers and Columbias.
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Jun 12, 2013 14:52
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The Dark Knight movies are about Batman trying to take those tools and resources and responsibilities that he has and doing good things with them, and by and large failing. When Joker plays his no-win scenario game theory tricks, Batman and Dent and Gordon at various points in the movies FAIL those tests. Only the random sampling of people of Gotham, and even the lower level criminals, on the ferries pass the test by refusing to participate. That bit where Bats starts a merger with Lau's company in HK just to get a good look at his books to screw the mafia in Gotham City? That's funny poo poo. At the most pedestrian level of looking at the films, the Dark Knight movies are dark tragicomedies with some good catharsis at the end of each. They're the best takes on the Batman lone wolf wingnut fantasy we could possibly have had. And I LIKE the character.
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Jun 12, 2013 15:46
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What I'm hearing here is that Batman gets his back broken and Superman gets killed and Superman's the invulnerable one.
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Jun 12, 2013 19:06
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The weird semi-comparable parallel the discussion brings to mind is the grognard reaction to Optimus Prime executing Megatron and Sentinel Prime.
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Jun 17, 2013 07:05
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That could still have been artificial insemination/fertilization.
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Jun 18, 2013 22:31
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^^^ Catharsis doesn't have to be related to a "happy resolution", in fact it's most often used in (Greek) drama in relation to tragedy. Usually it means some kind of release related to going through any extremes of emotion. For example, TDK doesn't really end on an "up" note but has catharsis. There are story beats and characteristics about Superman character (most often related to the Donner version, but also with these more classic comic runs) that certain audience take as given, as if any Superman ever depicted has already gone through it. Superman is always perfect, Superman can always control the fight, Superman never lies Superman never kills Superman never etc. Yeah, none of that has happened or is even necessarily true, and enough of it has been disregarded even in many of the better non-movie (and non-MoS) takes on Superman.
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Jun 19, 2013 14:03
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Bird Law posted:Spoilers here too. Yes, that's the scout ship. It's probably also a full-fledged colony ship (minus the worldmaker) since it has a birthing matrix. However, it ended up crashed and cut apart in the middle of Metropolis, so who knows what Superman's going to be able to do with it wrt Fortress of Solitude. Also his father's AI copy was apparently deleted from the scout ship and the House of El key ended up in the Phantom Zone, along with his other AI copy in the worldmaker slave. quote:Goyer has mentioned that empty pod in the scout ship a few times in the last few days, looks like they could really be considering the Supergirl angle for the sequel, could be interesting. (prequel comic spoilers). Maybe just explaining what it was originally for for people asking questions. I dunno if going directly to Supergirl is the right way to go for a sequel to a movie where Superman just killed the other last remaining Kryptonians.
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Jun 19, 2013 15:10
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Next can we get RedLetterMedia's opinion on this wanton destruction and loss of life? Just to round out the collection.
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Jun 19, 2013 16:27
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Piedmon Sama posted:Haha, I'm glad you had this thought too. I don't know, the slimmer Martha Kent and the somewhat abstract nature of their day-to-day (John Kent works in a garage when he's not being a farmer??) gave it this vibe to me too. Are we at the point now where we don't know what farmers do? You see one scene of him walking out of some random garage and you come to the conclusion that he works there? I'm having some hard time with this thought process.
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Jun 23, 2013 10:39
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So supposedly Superman vs Batman or Batman vs Superman or whatever will be filming at least partly in Detroit. As a stand-in for Metropolis post-invasion, perhaps?
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Aug 29, 2013 21:10
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AFoolAndHisMoney posted:Peace on Earth explains that he can't intervene that thoroughly because people would challenge him or deny him and to go one step further and just enforce it would be to compromise on everything he stands for. Going at infinite speed building toilets for 3rd world countries and, say, curing malaria (two activities combined that would thereby save tens of millions, low end estimate, in a decade) is becoming politically active?
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Sep 1, 2013 05:41
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BrianWilly posted:I'm not following this part. If civilian vigilantes are "appointed" by a democratically-elected government and ultimately answer to its decrees, how is it not functioning as part of the democratic system? It's a slightly different method of law enforcement, but I'm not seeing where in this process that the system itself has been invalidated. If the majority of all parties involved agree on how to do things, isn't that the very definition of democracy? Nobody "appointed" Superman. Nobody pointed to a random guy off the street and said "you're an alien born of another world and here to inspire/save humanity". Superman could/would be Superman regardless of how the public or the government views him. This has been (at the very loving least) problematic in the past. See also: superdickery.
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Sep 3, 2013 21:11
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"Also, hey, Peter Parker, we held a vote and assigned you to be bitten by the radioactive spider. But remember, with great powers comes great responsibility. Good luck!"
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Sep 3, 2013 21:13
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Dacap posted:This is exactly what Captain America's origin is though That selection process was undemocratic as gently caress and made during wartime. It's kind of a fascistic power fantasy used against actual fascists. I dunno.
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Bob Quixote posted:Considering the kind of poo poo that being Spider-Man makes you put up with it seems like a situation where you'd be better off just run away to Canada to escape the superhero draft. I'd have given up at Brand New Day or whatever at latest. Aunt May? You had a good run. I'm gonna spend the rest of my days in the Alaskan wilderness, web-trapping moose for dinner.
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