Sim City 4: No-Nonsense Metropolis

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Grand Fromage: Jan 30, 2006; L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?

Thanks for the shout-out. :glomp:

My pack is just my plugin folder gathered over a period of... poo poo, ten years now? My caveat for anyone who uses it is that there is literally no organization at all and some of the buildings don't work. It's a mess that was never intended for public view, but people requested my plugin folder so there it is. Buyer beware!

# ¿ Mar 8, 2013 13:52

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# ¿ Apr 28, 2024 16:06

Grand Fromage: Jan 30, 2006; L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?

32 is fine, it won't use any of the fanciness from 64. It can't even handle multiple cores.

# ¿ Mar 8, 2013 15:04

Grand Fromage: Jan 30, 2006; L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?

Currently.

# ¿ Mar 8, 2013 17:54

Grand Fromage: Jan 30, 2006; L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?

Have you set it to single core? If it's trying to run on multiple cores it'll crash like hell.

# ¿ Mar 10, 2013 15:55

Grand Fromage: Jan 30, 2006; L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?

You have to get used to some chugging. SC4 does not use modern hardware very well. It never ran well and the improvements in computers haven't helped all that much.

# ¿ Mar 10, 2013 16:33

Grand Fromage: Jan 30, 2006; L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?

nutranurse posted:

What region is that. I want it now.

Seconded, that's a beautiful region.

# ¿ Mar 13, 2013 00:18

Grand Fromage: Jan 30, 2006; L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?

That graphic glitch is really weird, I don't think it's my plugins. I've never seen anything like it. I have no idea what could cause it though.

# ¿ Mar 14, 2013 01:43

Grand Fromage: Jan 30, 2006; L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?

Super Waffle posted:

Gotcha, just making sure I didn't download some cheaty always max demand thing

Nah it's not cheating, it just adjusts the way the game works. You'll get used to the new demand graph after you play with it a while.

# ¿ Mar 17, 2013 02:58

Grand Fromage: Jan 30, 2006; L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?

boji posted:

I'm using the awesome region linked in the OP, but when I go out to region view, all my cities look like flattened green nothing.

Any fix for this? Apologies if it's already been addressed elsewhere.

edit: Somehow the problem resolved itself, hooray!

If you alt-tab or click out of the window while it's saving+exiting, the region view will be a flat grass tile. The city is fine. But you have to wait for it to save and go to region view before you go out of the SC4 window if you don't want to gently caress up region view.

# ¿ Mar 22, 2013 15:03

Grand Fromage: Jan 30, 2006; L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?

When you download them, they usually are labeled grow or plop (or growable/ploppable). Landmark too. The packs are all going to be mixed, but you might be able to search for plop and landmark and take out those files or something.

# ¿ May 1, 2013 17:27

Grand Fromage: Jan 30, 2006; L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?

And on single core it (usually) doesn't crash very often.

# ¿ Jun 2, 2013 16:58

Grand Fromage: Jan 30, 2006; L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?

If you're doing them gamey, connect high traffic/long distance routes. Like cross-town to work or something, look at the traffic map and build appropriately. If you're going for realism look at how highways are used in the kinds of cities you're emulating and run 'em all around the region.

# ¿ Jun 6, 2013 06:28

Grand Fromage: Jan 30, 2006; L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?

The crash thing is if you hover a puzzle piece over a transit-enabled building, like a rail station. Build all your puzzle parts first, then add the stations after and it shouldn't crash. And save frequently while doing any puzzle piece stuff.

# ¿ Oct 4, 2013 12:35

Grand Fromage: Jan 30, 2006; L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?

Remember that my pack is literally just a dump of my plugins folder that has never been organized or managed in any way. It works fine for me but it's not intentionally assembled like the Old Fashioned pack, so god only knows what's going on in there.

# ¿ Nov 2, 2013 17:06

Grand Fromage: Jan 30, 2006; L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?

Good lord. How many city tiles are on that?

I really want to see the King of Sperglords do an incredible fantasy Japan on that map.

# ¿ Jan 13, 2014 02:03

Grand Fromage: Jan 30, 2006; L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?

KillHour posted:

So that means you're going to do it in your LP?

I am merely the Prince of Sperg at best. Like a fifth to the throne prince. Have you SEEN the SC4 community? :colbert:

# ¿ Jan 18, 2014 04:11

Grand Fromage: Jan 30, 2006; L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?

It's not that the game doesn't work without NAM, it's just less realistic and doesn't work as well.

# ¿ Feb 16, 2014 03:21

Grand Fromage: Jan 30, 2006; L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?

Nice job with the projects, I've always had trouble getting a mass of them to grow like that.

# ¿ Apr 19, 2014 04:42

Grand Fromage: Jan 30, 2006; L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?

Yeah you don't have to gently caress with any of the extra stuff if you don't want. Just having the traffic fixes will improve the game immensely and requires no setup or knowledge. You can dig into the other stuff later if you feel like it.

# ¿ Jun 1, 2014 07:15

Grand Fromage: Jan 30, 2006; L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?

Poizen Jam posted:

Also the high rises above 10 levels in the rural zone looks completely out of place.

Depends what style you're going for. It's totally normal here in Korea. There are small towns that are basically just a small cluster of 30 story apartment blocks surrounded by farms.

# ¿ Jul 20, 2014 06:39

Grand Fromage: Jan 30, 2006; L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?

Yep. This isn't a great example but vaguely what I mean.

50 million people in a country the size of Indiana that's like 80% mountain makes for some interesting urbanization patterns.

# ¿ Jul 20, 2014 06:55

Grand Fromage: Jan 30, 2006; L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?

I rediscovered a guy I knew a long time ago who is doing a podcast about urbanization, I've been listening to a shitload of it lately. Might interest other SimCity nerds. http://blog.colinmarshall.org/

# ¿ Jul 22, 2014 02:26

Grand Fromage: Jan 30, 2006; L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?

Some of the landmarks increase land value and mayor rating in a radius around them, basically like bigass parks.

# ¿ Oct 29, 2014 14:04

Grand Fromage: Jan 30, 2006; L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?

The new city game by the Cities in Motion studio is looking good. Their last video showed a feature I've been wanting for ages, you can set different named districts in your city and give them different ordinance policies.

The public transit is more complex too, as I was hoping given their background. Bus routes. :fap:

# ¿ Oct 30, 2014 00:49

Grand Fromage: Jan 30, 2006; L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?

Goddamn, I never had any crash issues before and now I'm playing again and it's going down all the time. Argh this game.

# ¿ Nov 4, 2014 15:57

Grand Fromage: Jan 30, 2006; L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?

Have been doing that for years. The voodoo that runs this game is off, I need to sacrifice a chicken or something.

# ¿ Nov 5, 2014 01:56

Grand Fromage: Jan 30, 2006; L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?

VostokProgram posted:

It's mad because you haven't updated the LP for so long.

(Really, though, did anything change in your system at all since the last time you played?)

I was trying to update! :smith:

I'm pretty sure I've had to update video drivers to make other games work. I can't really roll those back though. I'll mess with the render options and see if one works better.

# ¿ Nov 5, 2014 13:57

Grand Fromage: Jan 30, 2006; L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?

It won't even start at all anymore. :eng99:

It sits there in my task manager slowly eating up memory, but no game.

E: Oh wait there it is, just took literally 25 minutes to start. What the poo poo. I really hope the sim the Cities in Motion guys are making pans out. I love SimCity 4 but it is a programming mess, a functioning replacement would be wonderful.

Grand Fromage fucked around with this message at 10:17 on Nov 8, 2014

# ¿ Nov 8, 2014 10:10

Grand Fromage: Jan 30, 2006; L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?

It's large but two days ago the game loaded in three minutes so there's something else going on. Didn't crash all day though.

# ¿ Nov 8, 2014 19:15

Grand Fromage: Jan 30, 2006; L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?

I started updating my LP again, for anybody who rightfully abandoned it and is interested.

# ¿ Nov 25, 2014 13:25

Grand Fromage: Jan 30, 2006; L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?

Anybody used the rice fields? I can't place multiple at the same time like other parks, I have to reclick in the menu every time. I don't know why (the Japanese canals are working the same way) but it's incredibly irritating and time consuming.

# ¿ Nov 30, 2014 03:41

Grand Fromage: Jan 30, 2006; L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?

Like most SC4 bugs, it depends a lot on if you've sacrificed a chicken recently and the position of the moon and whether or not your CPU was manufactured on an ancient Indian burial ground.

# ¿ Dec 31, 2014 19:18

Grand Fromage: Jan 30, 2006; L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?

I don't know the name but there is definitely a mod to make agriculture always have demand. I think SPAM does it, if you want a whole farming overhaul thing.

# ¿ Jan 2, 2015 19:48

Grand Fromage: Jan 30, 2006; L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?

Tusen Takk posted:

Does anyone know of a mod school that has huge capacity? I got NAM 32.1 working on my MacBook with absolutely no CTD's, but because of all the schools and munchkins in those schools I have a budget deficit of $6,000/month.

The Japanese school might be what you want, I don't know if it'll save money but you don't have to place so many.

http://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/11870-somy-japanese-urban-school/

# ¿ Jan 9, 2015 15:19

Grand Fromage: Jan 30, 2006; L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?

Yeah, I'm having fun with it but the lack of regions means it's not a replacement. It is good though, and you can do some crazy poo poo with roads.

# ¿ Mar 14, 2015 16:47

Grand Fromage: Jan 30, 2006; L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?

Build slower, provide no city services until your income is comfortable (except water, you can start that a little earlier). Population of 30K or so is a good place to start thinking about schools and stuff.

# ¿ Mar 16, 2015 09:24

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# ¿ Apr 28, 2024 16:06

Grand Fromage: Jan 30, 2006; L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?

Dirty poors. You can get well past 30K without any services beyond electricity and water.

# ¿ Mar 16, 2015 10:10

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